Can you mix and match vampire powers? Say I want them to have some traites of one coven, but have some trates of another? Liike for example, Mesmerism and wall climbing or something like that?

I'm sorry if this is already in the rules, I tried to find it, but I might have skipped over it.

Dude, completely.

The coven you are in is dependent upon a number of factors. One are the abilities the vampire has. Another is the type of personality they have. For the Amman, yet another is age.

So yes. It's allowed.

Sweetness :)

Back to work on my gypsy!

Yup! You are absolutely allowed. But, be careful not to make your character all-powerful or overload it with rare, strong powers, because then it's unfair to anyone they pick a fight with. :P

Heh heh, no, she's not even a hundred years old. Any powers she has are rather basic -nods-

Me promise she's not all powerful :lol:

Check her out if you want :) Kaisa's ready and raring to go :)

I'll pick a fight with them.

:mwaha:

And shoot them many times with a high powered sniper rifle from a distance...all head shots.

:lol:

The coward's way, but definately the smartest way.

Really though, what everyone else said, just don't get carried away. And even if you have an abilitiy that isn't standard fair if it's within reason Marcus will probably let you have it. She's cool like that. :heh:

On the subject of powers, is something like electrokinesis allowed? I was just wondering, since pyrokinesis is... But I mean a more enhanced, vampiric version.

Well I guess that would depend on what you mean by electrokinesis?

While I get what you’re saying about pyrokinesis, as an ability it is kind of rare among site members and the way it works is often different for different RPers and characters…so that’s why I ask what do you mean by electrokinesis.

Actually it was something along those lines that I wanted to ask Marcus about before. Like I had a idea for a vampire that is capable of not only feeding on blood, but also draining the natural bio-electric field of living things.

Sorry for that ramble toward the end. But basically I'd put up a description of what it is that you'd like and then I'd wait for Marcus to reply.

Like a Kheprian Vampire? I've always been interested in playing one. Only, I think they only feed on energy and aura (if i spelled that right).

*pokes Istar*

You're opening a new chapter to vampiric abilities that I didn't want to visit just yet. :P

But at the same time, I'm feeling encouraged toward said chapter... It would add a few more restrictions to vampires, but also open up a new list of abilities to choose from.

*ramble, ramble*

>.>

Basically what I'm considering is pooling my sources of vampire lore together; this would provide guidance for the sorts of abilities and weaknesses a vampire might have, based on the region that they were turned (or the region their sire was turned in, and so on and so forth). Hence, a little bit more restriction, but also new abilities...there's some really weird (and cool) stuff that you can find about vampires in regional folklore. :P

The reason that your idea reminded me of this, Istar, is that feeding from energy fields is fairly popular among Asia-area vampires (alright, officially it's the soul they feed from, but seeing as they likely weren't aware of natural bio-electric fields at the formation of the myths, "soul-sucking" would be a fair alternative, I would think :P).

Annnywho.

Back to the original question. :heh: Istar was correct in requesting an explanation of what exactly you meant by electrokinesis/how it would be performed (an innate ability, or a finely honed telekinetic-type ability, etc), and I'll consider it. :)

Now I want a Jiang si, thanks a lot Marcus... <_<

:heh:

Really I think I like that regional idea a lot!

I'll be intrigued to see how your electrokinesis works. I was thinking about the pseudo-science of it myself and creating an electrical potential should be feasible with something like the sodium-potassium pump on a massive scale. Generating a potential difference to unleash your charge on your target would be trickier though. Of course, you can always just say you've mastered the ability to move charged particles telekinetically.

Anyway, in my perusal of the web, I found several sites that claimed to be able to teach electrokinesis. For fear of copyright breach, I won't post their mind-boggling content, but here are the comments of some people on the site:

He seems to be confusing his psi disciplines, perhaps the following fellow will put things straight.

So there we have it. I haven't worked out how electrokinesis might work, but I've proven that trying to learn it will fry your brain.

Hummm...

Would it be more feasible if it was just a storing of electrical energy or perhaps something akin to a vampire developing electrocytes?

-shrinks away from the stuff my little question brought up-

Well, I didn't really go deep into thinking about it. I was just thinking an innate ability like the pyrokinesis is where a vampire has an enhanced amount of natural energy that s/he could manipulate. The older the vampire, the greater the energy...

-skulks-

Yeah... um. -zapp-

Well again that's the thing about pyrokinesis not everyone explains it as having energy to manipulate. Personally I look at it as speeding up the motion of atoms in a substance to the point of heat, friction, or combustion.

And since Istar's the only character I have with that ability and he's young I looked at it as a skill that he just doesn't have a whole lot of practice and ability in. He can light cigs, burn clothing and just recently, in a blind rage melt steel, but its not something that he can use to set people to a charring mass. I would just think as he got older and used it more, he wouldn't have an increase in energy so much as it is an increase in skill, in the way he handles the basic skill.

So what do you think of doing something like that with the whole electrokinesis thing? Maybe those that are young in the skill just don't have the focus and mental discipline to wield larger amounts of energy apposed to ancients that have been using it forever. Something I thought that would be really neat about that idea would be being able to manipulate the previously mention bio-electric energy in living things.

That's be cool considering you could control the entire central nervous system of an individual potentially. But this is your baby Romax, so do with it what you will.

p.s.

Just ignore me, I just love these kinds of idea sessions and get carried away.

Sorry to have hijacked your question, Romax (and your thread PushMyButtons). I didn't mean to discourage you from the idea, it's just that I've always liked the way stuff on Vital has tried to be explained in a reasonably feasible way, rather than just going "weeeeee magic!" To that end I did some thinking.

Now, my physics is a little rusty, and even when it wasn't, it was hardly top notch, so this could all be totally wrong. The main problem with trying to create some kind of organic electric killing machine is generating a large enough voltage. Amps are what kill you, but you need enough volts to drive them through your target. You don't need many amps at all to do some serious damage; I had a physics teacher once, who, for some very strange reason, was really interested in the science of electrocution, and I believe he said around 0.5 amps was more than enough to be fatal. It might have been more, it might have been less, I don't remember. Actually in trying to google for a more accurate value just now, I came across an awesome Darwin Award, which explains what I'm talking about when a guy managed to kill himself with a 9V battery. They reckon 100mA is enough to stop the heart, but I'll be generous and say that we want a nice 500mA (0.5A) to be sure. That same website gives the resistance of a person at between 500kohms and 2Mohms. Let's use the lower boundary, to compensate for the slightly inflated amp value.

Now,

So, we need to generate 250kV to drive a fatal current through someone's skin. We'd need even more volts to create some Emperor-style crackles from our fingertips that zap people across distances. I just can't come up with a viable way of doing this organically. Even if you could do it, getting the electricity to hit the desired target would be hard, as by default it would go to the path of least resistance (most likely the ground).

Bottom line, I think this is an ability that would have to be left down to "weeee magic!" Perhaps you could stay the vampire has a natural electric field which he or she can discharge telekinetically, by physically moving the electrons to the desired location.

I've just read Istar's latest post and agreed wholeheartedly with his summation and his P.S.: don't let my numbers and whatnot get in the way of your creation.

"weeeeee magic!" is now my favorite phrase. Thanks Blancandrin.

Really though I think the best way to look at this comes from a Wikipedia artical I just read.

Basically the direction of the electrical discharge could be controlled if you have some way of actively influencing the field.

That's a good point indeed. Trying to influence field makes more sense than trying to influence the charge directly, although doing so would still require some "weeeee magic!" (:P), methinks.

Lets just call it telekinetic manipulation…sounds more technical than "weeeee magic!"

:lol:

:)

(Sorry for littering your topic Romax.)

Sounds like a plan ;).

(My apologies as well *tiptoes backwards until out of sight*)