Title: Ballogy
Description: Southern for Biology
Romax - April 25, 2007 06:21 PM (GMT)
I had a question about biology not answered in
THIS thread. My question is: If it takes a certain amount of blood for a person to be turned, can two different vampires supply the necessary amount? For example, if I had a character who was drained to the point of death by one vampire and ingests one cup of his (the vampire's) blood, but it takes two cups to be turned, could the other cup be provided by another vampire? -plucked random amounts out of the air- If so, would the fledgling vampire have the traits (strengths and weaknesses) of both sires? Such as, if one of the vampires fell into a coma when the sun rose but the other did not, the fledgling may simply fall into a deep sleep rather than a true coma.
Thanks, hope I explained myself well enough. :)
Istar Indora - April 25, 2007 08:35 PM (GMT)
I get your question, but to be honest I have no clue. Firstly because it was never specified how much blood one had to ingest to become a vampire and secondly because, well it has never really come up.
But then getting on to the ability question, well I would say it like this. First and foremost a vampire doesn't necessarily inherit the abilities of their sire.
Naff said it best of all when she said that a fledgling should be looked at like a child.
A child may have two parents and thus inherit traits from both, but you must also look at the fact that children sometimes come up with features, disorders, and conditions that are not recorded in either of their parents’ bloodlines.
These would be mutations and it is because of this that never before seen traits are possible. More so there is the idea of recessive traits being displayed, and well to avoiding a drawn out conclusion, I would say first ask someone higher up on the ol’ totem pole if you can have a person turned by two sires and if the answer is yes, well then I don’t see anything wrong with a mixture of abilities so long as its within reason.
No perfect vampires...
:heh:
Romax - April 25, 2007 08:46 PM (GMT)
Well, no, not perfect. I was just thinking like with dogs, how mutts are generally less susceptible to certain diseases because of overlapping genes. Certain breeds are resistant to certain things, but weak to others. Which is why inbreeding can cause such problems. But, if you widen the gene pool, more dominant resistant genes pop up.
So I was just thinking about widening the vampiric gene pool, so to speak.
Istar Indora - April 25, 2007 09:19 PM (GMT)
It's already pretty wide, but again I don't see a problem myself, but you'll want to ask Marcus, this is her kind of question.
Skirr - April 25, 2007 10:56 PM (GMT)
AHHH NO!
As I vaguely remember from when Colton was turned (All those years ago...), Marcus was against a vampire having two sires. So, until Marcus replies, I have a strong suspicion that the answer is no.
Vanessa - April 26, 2007 12:20 AM (GMT)
*wipes dust off her keyboard*
Woah... Marcus was against two sires? I wasn't aware of that...
Skirr - April 26, 2007 04:35 AM (GMT)
I'm fairly certain? I also might be high on the fumes of my own BS, but... We'll see?
Marcus - April 26, 2007 02:36 PM (GMT)
It’s not so much that I was “against it”…it would just be kind of silly, for the reasons outlined by the others above. (And if I gave you different reasons, Skirr, feel free to restate them...I have the memory span of a goldfish lately. :heh:)
All vampires come from the five basic types that evolved way back when; technically the potential for every type of ability (and weakness) is in every vampire. Some are more dominant than others depending on which of the basic types you’re a descendant of, however it’s impossible to predict the outcome of a fledgling’s powers and weaknesses, no matter the sire. Additionally, abilities and weaknesses tend not to blend the way you've outlined in your original post...think of it as being as likely as someone with black hair and someone with blonde hair making a baby with grey hair. :P
There’s also the IC theory that an individual’s personality plays to the powers that they happen to get, but it’s not really something that can be proven. >.>
As for how much blood is drained and replaced, I’ve always figured it was a sacrifice for both parties, in that both mortal and vampire end up drained to the point of being a few gulps short of empty. It would also depend on the potency of the vampire’s blood; an ancient would need to give less than someone only a century old, for example. ….*should probably post this somewhere more official* <.<
I mean, you’re welcome to try siring a fledgling with two different vampires…but there would be a few risks involved, such as the potential that the fledgling turns before the second vampire gets his or her blood in (if the first had potent blood, for example), and happens to have the weakness of dying from ingesting dead blood. Usually an Amman trait, but as stated above, it could turn up in any vampire.
Does that make sense? ^.^’
Romax - April 26, 2007 04:16 PM (GMT)
Sure, it makes sense. I was just fiddling around with these ideas that randomly crop up in my head, so... yeah.
And actually, about the black hair+blond hair=grey hair thing, I was thinking more along the lines of black person+white person=light brown person... How some traits are neither dominant nor recessive so you end up with Halle Berry because they have a certain, competing amount of both.
Dunno if I explained that right, but oh well... :)
Istar Indora - April 26, 2007 07:28 PM (GMT)
I understand what you're saying, hybridizing traits right? Like if you cross breed roses, two different colors will get you a combo color because in roses color genes tend to be dominant.
Anyway, it sounds interesting!