An update of Martin's previous unreleased tracks poll. Your favourite and why please.

I'd love to see if anyone votes for Race Hatred. Does anyone on this board remember this song?

However, it's Crackhouse for me...

Excluding everything from Bo Doodak onwards due to the fact that they are going to be on the new LP, I'd say "Surrogate Mirage". Amazing to think that this was only played once as it sounds so well rehearsed and structured. Would have improved "Room To Live", that's for sure....

Then there's the near-mythical Landslide Victory.
And was Classical Gas really ever played?

I can always delete those vote options when the tracks come out.

Re: Surrogate Mirage, maybe someone pointed out that Heroin had already been released by the Velvet Underground and so didn't need to be released again by The Fall.

Now you're forcing me to go and listen to Surrogate Mirage and Heroin again...and it's already late after a long day. It's a cruel world.

Your partner in crime thinks so. Track Record

He Talks would have improved The Wonderful & Frightening World Of...
Discuss.

Now we are being set exam-type questions!!

Hmm...maybe yes, is the answer...though I think it would have needed more work...and don't ask me exactly what, as my name isn't MES!

Won't vote for stuff (possibly) lined up for the new Lp....

Gone for Hey! Marc Riley - Studio Demo, not the live take.

Middle Mass Explanations perhaps the strongest on the list, but it's not an entirely 'new' song so I didn't vote for it.

My Conditions class, too :applaud:

It was a toss betwen Jet Boy and Bo Doodak, so to speak. Went with BD in the end even ntho there're a few there that I haven't heard..(Surrogate Mirage sounds good)..Bo Doodak is such a BRILLIANT Fall opener, same could be said of Jet Boy, but it jst about edges it for me.

I've only heard Bo Doodak onwards :mellow:

Almost the same here actually. You gotta hear Jet Boy!

I feel it coming on....

bo doodak rules

But why does it rule, Fallchase?

Jet boy or Crackhouse for me


The only one I've not heard is Classical Gas - what does that sound like

the beat to the song is phenominal, and the lyrics are cool, and i hope they play this song when they cross over the pond. other then that, next favorite is walk like a man because they played that song live when i saw them and i knew it before i even heard of the fall, and i like the way the fall did it and its all good and happy and so on and so on

I would like to hear all of these.....especially Race Hatred

its a good one thats for sure

Is the sketch with "Classical gas" not that Ben started playing it during an MES offstage/amp fiddling /otherwise engaged moment and the others joined in as best they could - an impromptu jam rather than an actual attempt at a cover? If someone better informed than I could come in and contradict/clarify.....

I'm a bit perplexed on this as I'm sure Simon Ford asserts that no tape survives of "Race Hatred" or "You Don't Turn Me On" but their appearance in this poll suggests that there is and folks here have copies.....

loop 41 needs some love, add it to being on the interim album have clayts add it woooooooo

I know nobody with a copy of Race Hatred. Simon Ford may or may not say no tape exists...probably one doesn't but we live in blind hope...mind you, Mr Ford got one or two things wrong in his book...as we all would...

I would have loved to have seen Wishart back then.

You Don't Turn Me On exists on circulating tapes/CDs.

We're hoping to make at least some of these available on the new multimedia pages, although we may have a problem with some of the cover versions (eg Jet Boy)

Race Hatred - Not heard

You Don't Turn Me On - is this the 30 second snippet I have somewhere?

Brand New Cadillac - or is this that 30 second snippet?

My Condition - Make it snappy - standard early piece

Pop Stickers - Question: if this is supposed to be a C Scanlon tune, how come it's played live by M Brama?

Jumper Clown - Class tune

Midd Mass Exp - okay tune...

Surrogate Mirage - Fuckin magic...underdeveloped...but almost symphonic in places

(Don't like Maggie in here eh?)

He Talks - Like Draygo's guilt

Hey M Riley - Bo Doodak?

Countdown - lovely stuff...middle eight sounds out of place though

Crackhouse - Nagle rules ookay

Jet Boy - I put this on a lot. Motivating tune

Classical Gas - what's this like???????

Walk like a man - there's an indie tune out now that sound like a rip off of this cover

Bo Doodak - Hey M Riley?

the rest - we shall hear of them soon, eh?

jet boy is not really as good as the ny dolls one

Vote options updated.

Walk Like a Man always puts a great big smile on my face.

Updated again.

I'm guessing someone must have produced a ranking before now: which are the best live recordings without an official release?
How about someone who knows how to do these things setting up a poll?

Hungry Freaks Daddy?

Ponto.

Sino-Chino flapjack

From the list Surrogate Mirage. Crackhouse close behind. And yes, Ponto. Islington 2007. You know it makes sense.

Were you taking about complete gigs by any chance sigma?

If so, there are probably too many to list. Lots of A-minus or above recordings out there...

Glad that many of these songs got released on last year's box set. However it's a pity that MES vetoed the inclusion of the two best non studio songs, Surrogate Mirage and Crackhouse. Must have voted for the former a long time ago. Two years ahead of Disney's Dream Debased, arguably the first real contemplative Fall song ever released (unless you count Iceland). Surrogate Mirage could have evolved into a real Fall classic. :(

Currently Chino Splashback seems to improve steadily, especially considering the recent Aberdeen gig. I wonder how it will turn out on the next album. You'll never know...