Title: Ever regretted buying a Fall record?
Stephen - September 7, 2004 02:21 PM (GMT)
Any regrets?
(The Receiver-are-crap arguments can all be found in the Receiver poll.)
mantpl - September 7, 2004 02:23 PM (GMT)
I never regret buying a Fall record
the sad git I am
Martin - September 7, 2004 02:26 PM (GMT)
Even those I barely ever play look nice on the shelf.
Maybe Drum Club remix of Middle Class Revolt...
otherdave - September 7, 2004 02:34 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I fuckin' have. This Fall thing is an unwholesome part of what I came to be, but for fuck's sake...
Seminal Live. Yours for a fiver inc postage.
Never even got Shitwork. Don't even ask about all the ones I never regretted not buying.
But I can still live without all the other music in the world. :)
Cleanville Tziabatz - September 7, 2004 02:36 PM (GMT)
yeah, CS, IS, 27 Points. Gave away and/or sold back. Also sold back LUS, but this message board is beginning to make me suspect that was a bad decis.
otherdave - September 7, 2004 02:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Sep 7 2004, 02:36 PM) |
| Also sold back LUS, but this message board is beginning to make me suspect that was a bad decis. |
'Twas, but don't panic. You could be regretting frisbeeing SL. That would be far worse.
Stephen - September 7, 2004 02:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Sep 7 2004, 02:36 PM) |
| yeah, CS, IS, 27 Points. |
What's wrong with 27 P(o)ints?
Martin - September 7, 2004 02:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 8 2004, 02:40 AM) |
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Sep 7 2004, 02:36 PM) | | yeah, CS, IS, 27 Points. |
What's wrong with 27 P(o)ints?
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He probably just doesn't like it. Not everyone on this board is perfect at all times.
Stephen - September 7, 2004 02:44 PM (GMT)
Necessary if only for the excellent Noel's Chemical Effluence.
gorillabat - September 7, 2004 02:52 PM (GMT)
I don't regret any of them and I've never considered parting with any. Granted, I just got them all and I had gotten rid of all my old Fall vinyl and was Fall-less for a few years.
But even ones I know I will rarely spin I will always keep. There's only about 3 in that category anyway. the other 30-odd discs are in constant rotation it seems.
Cleanville Tziabatz - September 7, 2004 02:55 PM (GMT)
I have to admit that "Noel's" was a great song. However, some of the other songs just depressed me too much -- felt like the Fall wasn't even trying.
I often wished that The Fall would have released only three of four songs per year 1992 - 1995 (eg: 1995: Noel's / The Joke / Bonkers).
The reason I think I made a mistake on LUS, but not the other give-aways, is that I only gave LUS 3 or 4 lissens when it came out. The others I lissened to a lot, desparately trying to like them.
It was so nice when I caught up with The Unutterable years later and realized that the Fall was back on track.
gorillabat - September 7, 2004 03:05 PM (GMT)
I made a killer tracklist for a comp of stuff from Extricate through MCRevolt with some stray tracks from the Listening In collection to boot. If I could MAKE the thing now, it would be a great single disc.
These albums aren't bad, but I think they all pale to everything prior up through Seminal Live and everything after from Cerebral onwards.
Each one has some killer tunes, and a couple seem to work as good "listening through" albums but with no great tracks that jump out.
LUS is half great, then some songs I thought were dodgy/fillerish. But like you, I have not heard it enough. So many Fall albums are still new to me I am catching up.
otherdave - September 7, 2004 03:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Sep 7 2004, 02:55 PM) |
| I often wished that The Fall would have released only three of four songs per year 1992-95 |
One a year would have done for me in 1987-94. But those days are behind us. Let's not dwell on such sordid business. :)
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Sep 7 2004, 02:55 PM) |
| It was so nice when I caught up with The Unutterable years later and realized that the Fall was back on track. |
In-fuckin'-deed. Not the Marshall Suite (Unutterable Vol.1), though?
Cleanville Tziabatz - September 7, 2004 03:15 PM (GMT)
I had stopped buying after LUS. Had to catch up with Levitate and Marshall circa 2001-2.
fallchase - September 7, 2004 04:20 PM (GMT)
its the fall of course not, i love the fall too much to hate anything by them.
Bagrec - September 7, 2004 04:48 PM (GMT)
Middle Class Revolt stopped me buying Fall stuff for a while, I have to confess.
xanax - September 7, 2004 05:04 PM (GMT)
Infotainment Scan is a M a s t e r p i e c e...best album of the 90's...Paranoia Man, It's a Curse, Service, A past gone mad, Lost in Music, Glamracket.....so many great songs...brilliant lyrics (Fireworks!!) ...it's a mystery to me that some people don't like it...
REX - September 7, 2004 05:11 PM (GMT)
None of the regular Fall studio records have put me off, though I don't tend to like dregs like Seminal Live or 2G+2. I at least recognize at the time of release when they are either stop-gap or contractually obliged, so they don't really bother me. I was very excited by Extricate, Infotainment Scan, Light User Syndrome -- all records that seem to be cited here as momentum killers. I did sellback Oxymoron and Cheetham Hill once as a way to clean house, but I've got them again.
I was not a fan at the time of Code: Selfish (no US release) but if I had been, it would have disappointed me. I can understand why a lot of you who didn't like the Infotainment Scan would feel let down by early '90s Fall, then. But I'm lucky -- I agree with xanax, I think IS is one of their best records, period. Energetic, exciting, fresh, and great songs.
Big Chief Mango Chutney XIV - September 7, 2004 05:23 PM (GMT)
I bought a copy of the "Protein Christmas" single at the Royal Festival Hall in January and have regretted it ever since! :cry2:
"Why?" I hear you ask, "It's a great single; what with "Mod Mock Goth" AND "Birtwistle's Girl in Shop", how could you possibly regret it???" :huh:
Why? I'll tell you why! It was on sodding VINYL that's why! And I DON'T even have a record player!!!
Ooops! Alright, so I was a bit pissed; and very carried away after having just seen The Fall... But it was a mistake anyone could've made, surely?! OK, so it is twice the size of a cd single; and says "Vinyl" on the front in big bold print; but what can you do? Needless to say, I was VERY pissed off when I took it out of its cover ! :banghead:
I later re-ordered the single on cd from Amazon.
And yes... before you ask... I do realise that I am a professional fuckwit! :ohdear:
Martin - September 7, 2004 06:10 PM (GMT)
This is the kind of post which makes this forum great.
fallchase - September 7, 2004 06:29 PM (GMT)
big chief your post was rather hilarious, i owe you a beer if i ever meet you.
MarkESP - September 7, 2004 06:45 PM (GMT)
I bought Grotesque and Totale's Turns Castle reissues on the same day in 1998 that I also bought a law textbook from Waterstones and Waterstones didn't take the ca$h off my card for about a week, overdrawing me slightly in the process, so I didn't have any money when I went to a hallowe'en party the following week and was totally miserable in the face of a lovely girl who seemed absolutey besotted by me. (This happens roughly every five years :wacko: ) Sanctuary have now reissued both albums and I failed my law course. :banghead:
fallfandave - September 7, 2004 07:03 PM (GMT)
well levitate i wasnt impressed with so i sold it about a week later...along with other stuff...it was really a question of which is better the fall or beer money...and beer won
fallfandave - September 7, 2004 07:05 PM (GMT)
i have bought it again since and have promoted it to reasonably ok
mjungblu - September 7, 2004 08:07 PM (GMT)
no regrets on all - never sold any of them nor for beer neither for Schweppes Tonic...
I even enjoyed the update on seminal live: I prefer the CD version as it is longer and as it sounds better to the scratchy vinyl one.
generalist - September 7, 2004 08:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xanax @ Sep 7 2004, 06:04 PM) |
| Infotainment Scan is a M a s t e r p i e c e...best album of the 90's...Paranoia Man, It's a Curse, Service, A past gone mad, Lost in Music, Glamracket.....so many great songs...brilliant lyrics (Fireworks!!) ...it's a mystery to me that some people don't like it... |
i guess some of us simply aren't perfect.... -_-
plus i think its got a v boring cover......
gorillabat - September 7, 2004 08:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Middle Class Revolt stopped me buying Fall stuff for a while, I have to confess. |
That's too bad because they picked up again right after that with Cerebral Caustic and haven't made a lame move since. In some ways they have continued to get better and better from that point onwards.
I am not an Infotainment Scan hater. I love Ladybird, Going to Spain, Fireworks, Paranoid Man...it is indeed chock full of good songs. Probably the high point of the era that starts with Extricate and ends with MCRevolt. At least I think it has the strongest material off these. But it didn't grab me straightaway at all. MCRevolt is the weakest to me, but it still has some great stuff.
I like ShiftWork because it seems very British and pastoral to me and I dont think The Fall had ever sustained much of that side of them for an entire album. There are some songs on this one that I find it hard to listen to though. Code:Selfish is another one that's odd for me. Very few tracks really jump out at me (Married, 2 Kids is one that does), but as a whole, I think it's a good album throughout. I enjoy listening to it, but not much of it lodges in my head the way most Fall does.
Seminal Live was the last Fall album I bought when it was new until TRNFLP. I have to say, if I had gone on to Extricate right after, when it was released, I may have given up on them for a time. Some great numbers but too many covers and filler for me. Also, at the time I really found it hard to get behind anything which smacked of techno/sampling/beatbox stuff. I think MCRevolt is probably their blandest effort while Extricate is the one that sounds the most dated. It hasn't aged well.
PS-- I know lots of material prior to Extricate had heavy synth, beat stuff, etc. but to me the riffs and hooks are there on Frenz and Oranj and the more disco-y stuff off the TNSG-era singles, but not so much on Extricate.
REX - September 7, 2004 08:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (generalist @ Sep 7 2004, 03:32 PM) |
| plus i think its got a v boring cover...... |
They almost all have boring covers! Too bad he keeps marrying keyboardists, he needs to hook up with a graphic designer.
REX - September 7, 2004 08:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (gorillabat @ Sep 7 2004, 03:37 PM) |
| Extricate is the one that sounds the most dated. It hasn't aged well. |
I think 1990 is by far the most "dated" year in musical history. Everything that came out that year sounded prehistoric by 1991.
generalist - September 7, 2004 08:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (REX @ Sep 7 2004, 09:37 PM) |
| QUOTE (generalist @ Sep 7 2004, 03:32 PM) | | plus i think its got a v boring cover...... |
They almost all have boring covers! Too bad he keeps marrying keyboardists, he needs to hook up with a graphic designer.
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:lol:
gorillabat - September 7, 2004 08:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| think 1990 is by far the most "dated" year in musical history. Everything that came out that year sounded prehistoric by 1991. |
:applaud:
HA! It was the 80s hangover I guess. I bet I could dig around and find some 1990 releases that argue against your statement here, but off the cuff, it seems empirically true enough to fly for sure.
Tube - September 7, 2004 08:47 PM (GMT)
Never regretted buying any record, but the Shiftwork video left me pissed off.
I feel better now as I've just posted it to Fallchase, who's impressive enthusiasm for all things Fall related reassures me that it has found a good home. :applaud:
foetusized - September 7, 2004 08:53 PM (GMT)
I recently bought both Liverpool '78 and the Witch Trials reissue via eBay at about the same time. I should have been paying closer attention, but Liverpool '78 was only $2.30 with shipping so I can't regret it too much -- Foe
fallchase - September 7, 2004 09:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tube @ Sep 8 2004, 08:47 AM) |
Never regretted buying any record, but the Shiftwork video left me pissed off. I feel better now as I've just posted it to Fallchase, who's impressive enthusiasm for all things Fall related reassures me that it has found a good home. :applaud: |
yes i promise to take good care of it, as it deserves a good home, and i will enjoy it i am sure.
REX - September 7, 2004 09:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (foetusized @ Sep 7 2004, 03:53 PM) |
| but Liverpool '78 was only $2.30 with shipping so I can't regret it too much |
And the cover art is especially unique and worth having.
Mr. Marshall - September 7, 2004 09:25 PM (GMT)
That Fall 77 thing. O.K. to have on the shelf but unlistenable which is a shame as the band sound good...Extricate dated? Huh? And again I say huh?
mjungblu - September 7, 2004 09:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (REX @ Sep 7 2004, 10:37 PM) |
| QUOTE (generalist @ Sep 7 2004, 03:32 PM) | | plus i think its got a v boring cover...... |
They almost all have boring covers! Too bad he keeps marrying keyboardists, he needs to hook up with a graphic designer.
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isn’t the cover from Pander! Panda! Panzer! done by someone who is playing keyboard as well? <_<
unique spoken word album plus unique cover art! :applaud:
Country Folk - September 7, 2004 10:15 PM (GMT)
I convinced myself that buying Liverpool '78 was legit because, firstly, it was only a fiver and, secondly, it was recorded the day one of my best mates was born. But I'm not sure I've listened to it more than twice and usually play the first couple of songs to people to convince them of the poor quality.
I thought I would regret Live At The Phoenix Festival because I only got it so I would have all their CDs (the completist in me would not let it stay on the HMV rack), but I really like this one. Only good version of 15 Ways I can think of.
Speaking of which, regretted buying the 15 Ways single when I found all three songs were on Middle Class Revolt in identical versions...
The Encrusted Green - September 7, 2004 10:38 PM (GMT)
a few, but then again too few to mention
gorillabat - September 8, 2004 05:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| I am a professional fuckwit! |
Say...I'm job hunting right now. What can a person expect the salary range for this to be?