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Title: Films/TV shows referenced by MES
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Buy Kurious! - November 14, 2009 10:28 PM (GMT)
I thought there might already be a thread about this but I can't find anything.
Basically, any straight-forward mentions of films/TV shows and/or characters from them in Fall songs/albums, or lines of dialogue, scenes, scenarios, etc from films. No matter how obvious they may be to Fall fans.

I Am Kurious, Oranj, taken from 1967 Swedish porno I Am Curious (Yellow).

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The "Lay! Lay! Lay!" opening to "Lay of the Land" is apparently taken from 1979's Quatermass (or Quatermass IV/The Quatermass Conclusion). Starring Johnny Mills as Quatermass.

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Quatermass, now living in retirement in Scotland, travels to London in search of his missing granddaughter. He is shocked by the scale of the urban collapse that has struck the city – law and order has broken down and marauding gangs terrorise the litter strewn, decaying streets.
The "Ley! Ley! Ley!" bit is a chant by a group of "hippie-like youngsters who travel to various Neolithic sites where they believe they will be transported to a better life on another planet".
As it turns out they are being harvested by aliens for food. :sick:

You can watch the first episode here.

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The "Universal Wax Solvent" in "Exploding Chimney" is from a 1966 two-part episode of Batman, "The Ring of Wax"/"Give 'em the Axe". It's a solvent used by Riddler that burns through absolutely anything. I always thought this referred to The Fall's influence burning through everything ("Believe me kids, I've been through it all."), but I'm probably wrong.
You can watch the episode(s) in question on YouTube, click the picture:

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I wonder if "WMC - Blob 59" is supposed to be a reference to the 1958 film The Blob (with Steve McQueen)?

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You can watch this on YouTube in segments, starting here.

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Any others? Everything apart from references to The Twilight Zone, which is covered in this thread.

flickeringlexicon - November 14, 2009 11:36 PM (GMT)
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Could it be?!?

Buy Kurious! - November 15, 2009 04:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ Nov 14 2009, 11:36 PM)
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Could it be?!?

I was wondering about that the other day. The film was released a whole year before "Wolf Kidult Man" was first played at MES' 50th birthday gig (it was apparently "Wolve Kidult Man" then), but did MES get it from here or somewhere else. I've never heard "kidult" used anywhere else, though.

deedee1o1 - November 15, 2009 04:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 15 2009, 10:28 AM)

I Am Kurious, Oranj, taken from 1967 Swedish porno I Am Curious (Yellow).

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Great initiative starting this thread !

Just a small correction on your first post:

I am curious yellow (or Jag är nyfiken - gul) is not a porno. It does include scenes of a sexual nature but it is actually a serious (and quite pretentious) political drama that mixes reality and fiction.

elvischomsky - November 15, 2009 04:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 15 2009, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ Nov 14 2009, 11:36 PM)
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Could it be?!?

I was wondering about that the other day. The film was released a whole year before "Wolf Kidult Man" was first played at MES' 50th birthday gig (it was apparently "Wolve Kidult Man" then), but did MES get it from here or somewhere else. I've never heard "kidult" used anywhere else, though.

"Kidult" is quite a common term in the boring sections of the Sunday papers no-one reads.
Akin to writing about "middle youth" a decade or more ago.


Fritter - November 15, 2009 04:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 16 2009, 04:19 AM)
QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ Nov 14 2009, 11:36 PM)


Could it be?!?

I was wondering about that the other day. The film was released a whole year before "Wolf Kidult Man" was first played at MES' 50th birthday gig (it was apparently "Wolve Kidult Man" then), but did MES get it from here or somewhere else. I've never heard "kidult" used anywhere else, though.

"Kidult" was in common usage in the newspapers a good few years ago.

elvischomsky - November 15, 2009 04:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Fritter @ Nov 15 2009, 04:51 PM)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 16 2009, 04:19 AM)
QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ Nov 14 2009, 11:36 PM)


Could it be?!?

I was wondering about that the other day. The film was released a whole year before "Wolf Kidult Man" was first played at MES' 50th birthday gig (it was apparently "Wolve Kidult Man" then), but did MES get it from here or somewhere else. I've never heard "kidult" used anywhere else, though.

"Kidult" was in common usage in the newspapers a good few years ago.

You can say that again!

Buy Kurious! - November 16, 2009 02:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (deedee1o1 @ Nov 15 2009, 04:43 PM)
Just a small correction on your first post:

I am curious yellow (or Jag är nyfiken - gul) is not a porno. It does include scenes of a sexual nature but it is actually a serious (and quite pretentious) political drama that mixes reality and fiction.

I just thought it was a straightforward porno. :ohdear:
Thanks. :beer:

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I thought of another, though it's not really a "reference"...
The John Barry theme to Zulu is played (presumably before the Roundhouse gig) on "Intro - Roundhouse" on The Twenty-Seven Points.

"Zulu Main Title" - John Barry.

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I bought this on DVD yesterday. :thumbsup:

Buy Kurious! - November 16, 2009 03:13 PM (GMT)
In "Antidotes" the line,

"If chewing gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued"


is a direct lift from a Groucho song and dance number in Duck Soup.

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QUOTE (filmsite)
In the song and dance number, "Just Wait 'Til I Get Through With It," Firefly specifies the rules and program planned for his preposterous administration. He threatens, as a repressive, dictatorial ruler, to abuse his power, to be rude, obnoxious, irresponsible, insulting, cynical, and power-mad, ruining the country. Between verses, he plays a "Yankee Doodle" fife and dances around among the guests:

These are the laws of my administration
No one's allowed to smoke
Or tell a dirty joke
And whistling is forbidden...
If chewing gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued.
And in the hoosegow hidden...
If any form of pleasure is exhibited
Report to me and it will be prohibited.
I'll put my foot down, so shall it be.
This is the land of the free.
The last man nearly ruined this place
He didn't know what to do with it
If you think this country's bad off now
Just wait 'til I get through with it
The country's taxes must be fixed
And I know what to do with it
If you think you're paying too much now
Just wait 'til I get through with it...

I will not stand for anything that's crooked or unfair
I'm strictly on the up and up
So everyone beware
If anyone's caught taking graft
And I don't get my share
We stand 'em up against the wall
And pop goes the weasel.

If any man should come between her husband and his bride
We find out which one she prefers
By letting her decide
If she prefers the other man
The husband steps outside
We stand 'em up against the wall
And pop goes the weasel.

http://www.filmsite.org/duck.html

You can watch the short scene here.

SonofAlways - November 16, 2009 03:28 PM (GMT)
"The Wright Stuff" (obviously)

"I've Been Duped" references "The O.C."


Buy Kurious! - November 16, 2009 03:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SonofAlways @ Nov 16 2009, 03:28 PM)
"The Wright Stuff"  (obviously)

"I've Been Duped" references "The O.C."

Yes!!!! :applaud:

And the horrendous Jeremy Kyle Show in "Is This New".

I was sure I had either seen MES or someone on here say that "Susan vs. Youthclub" is in-part taken from a storyline in Neighbours (extremely popular Australian soap) -- I've definitely read MES saying in interviews that he watches it (or at least he used to).
I just looked up Susan Kennedy (the character) on wiki and found the following:

In 2002 Susan Kennedy was part of one of Neighbours' more high-profile storylines of recent years. On her way out of the house one day, she slipped on some spilt milk and was knocked unconscious by the fall. When she came to she was confused. She was found in this state by neighbours who alerted her husband, and she was taken to Erinsborough Hospital. There it was discovered that she had retrograde amnesia, and had forgotten the last 30 years, leading Susan to believe that she was a young Susan Smith :o living in 1972 at the age of 16 and only really recognising her sister Carmel, who was visiting at the time.

Due to her mental state, she could not remember her husband Karl, and refused to see him. But after getting to know him and readjusting to his ways, the couple eventually renewed their wedding vows at the end of 2002. At the altar, Susan's memory spontaneously returned and she was able to recite her vows from her first wedding; Karl was able to do the same.


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Susan vs. Youthclub

Susan had an accident
Reverted back to age sixteen
Went down to the youthclub
In a mirror looked and started to scream.

elvischomsky - November 16, 2009 03:58 PM (GMT)
Probably their most TV-centric song, and the second Richard & Judy-related one...

Desperate for entertainment
So I turn the TV on
There's people jumping up and down
Then they have the panel on
And they talk a lot of wind
They talk a lot of wind

Then they have the weatherman on
He used to teach all our friends
He talked a lot of wind
He talks a lot about wind

Then they have Carl Lewis on
He's got a ponytail and he's a vegan
He talks a lot of wind
He talks a lot about wind

I turn the tragic lantern on
It's a program 'Good Morning' [1]
It's a lot of wind
They talk a lot about wind

I'm real sick and in distress
I got octagonals in my eyelids
From watching all that wind
I get horrible horrible horrible dreams
So I ring the TV line and get a lot of wind
They talk a lot of wind

You see them selling carpets
You see them in the shops
You see them on the kids programs
And they talk a lot of wind

Oh the boredom in my bones
From belching a lot of wind
They talk a lot about wind
They talk a lot about wind

I gotta forget about the wind
Has a lot of nerve
To talk a lot about wind

There's a roly-poly, roly-poly man
He's got a yak haircut (dick, dick, dick)
They talk a lot about wind

Fritter - November 16, 2009 04:02 PM (GMT)
When did Carl Lewis ever have a ponytail?

Buy Kurious! - November 16, 2009 04:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Fritter @ Nov 16 2009, 04:02 PM)
When did Carl Lewis ever have a ponytail?

I can't find photographic proof, but I did find this:

On Carl Lewis's short-lived ponytail - "He looks like the love child of Grace Jones and Paul Revere." - Tony Kornheiser Washington Post, (1990)

http://www.sports-quotes.com/athletics/carl_lewis.html

Neal Cassady - November 16, 2009 04:10 PM (GMT)
Two from Perverted By Language...

Reg Varney gets a mention in Garden and "Easy Rider Coot" in Eat Y'self Fitter.

SonofAlways - November 16, 2009 04:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SonofAlways @ Nov 17 2009, 03:28 AM)
"The Wright Stuff"

Also mentions I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here...

Buy Kurious! - November 16, 2009 04:41 PM (GMT)
Bill is Dead.

"Last week, after a user posted image" :D

SonofAlways - November 16, 2009 05:34 PM (GMT)
Touch Sensitive references "Star Wars"

Bound references "Teletubbies"

Antidotes (Peel Session) references "The Adams Family"

Snowy - November 16, 2009 05:37 PM (GMT)
Cliff Barnes from Dallas is mentioned in Assume

Buy Kurious! - November 16, 2009 06:15 PM (GMT)
I doubt this has anything to do with the Code:Selfish song, but...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman's_Agreement

The 1968 George Peppard film P.J., had the following title in the UK:

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DJAsh - November 16, 2009 06:21 PM (GMT)
Junior Showtime

flickeringlexicon - November 16, 2009 06:26 PM (GMT)
"Richard and Judy's bastard offspring" -NW Fashion Show

Grotesque Courtier - November 17, 2009 01:58 AM (GMT)
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The "Lay! Lay! Lay!" opening to "Lay of the Land" is apparently taken from 1979's Quatermass (or Quatermass IV/The Quatermass Conclusion). Starring Johnny Mills as Quatermass.


No apparently about it. I remember being blown away Lay of the Land because Quatermass was one of my favourite TV shows as a kid.

Stephen - November 17, 2009 04:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 14 2009, 10:28 PM)
The "Universal Wax Solvent" in "Exploding Chimney" is from a 1966 two-part episode of Batman, "The Ring of Wax"/"Give 'em the Axe". It's a solvent used by Riddler that burns through absolutely anything. I always thought this referred to The Fall's influence burning through everything ("Believe me kids, I've been through it all."), but I'm probably wrong.
You can watch the episode(s) in question on YouTube, click the picture:

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That makes possibly the fifth Fall/Batman connection. See here for the others.

Then there's
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the 1960 film that may be what MES refers to in 'US 80s/90s'. Or he could be referring to this this.

elvischomsky - February 8, 2012 10:48 PM (GMT)
While reading something about how Worzel Gummidge may be being made into a Hollywood movie, I was reminded of his fondness for "A cup of tea and a slice of cake".

Am I reading too much into this, or was "a cappucino and a slice of quiche" a nod to this, commenting on how this country has gone to the continental culture-loving middle class dogs? :unsure:

Here is a song from Worzel's 1980 Christmas Special - 'A Cup O' Tea And A Slice O' Cake'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LdVbOlkMlU

Adorable!

mixstreams - February 8, 2012 11:16 PM (GMT)
From the Hip Priest and Kamerads version of Mere Pseud Mag Ed

Saw "Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World"
"Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World, Part One"
twice each at least twice each at least twice each

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ryaneno - February 8, 2012 11:35 PM (GMT)
Murder She Wrote on Weather Report 2

Crime show with Angela Lansbury if you didn't know...

The BEF - February 9, 2012 11:01 AM (GMT)
Ted Rodgers from 3-2-1 in Joker Hysterical Face. :)

HiccupPercy - February 9, 2012 11:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (mixstreams @ Feb 8 2012, 11:16 PM)
From the Hip Priest and Kamerads version of Mere Pseud Mag Ed

Saw "Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World"
"Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World, Part One"
twice each at least twice each at least twice each

And Not the Nine O'Clock News and Rumpole of Bailey from the LP version.

The BEF - February 9, 2012 11:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (HiccupPercy @ Feb 9 2012, 11:11 AM)
QUOTE (mixstreams @ Feb 8 2012, 11:16 PM)
From the Hip Priest and Kamerads version of Mere Pseud Mag Ed

Saw "Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World"
"Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World, Part One"
twice each at least twice each at least twice each

And Not the Nine O'Clock News and Rumpole of Bailey from the LP version.

And Carry On films in the peel session.




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