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Title: 02. US release


Conway - May 25, 2009 07:47 AM (GMT)
Please place any comments below.

Buy Kurious! - May 25, 2009 10:02 AM (GMT)
I know there was some frustration with IWS, but how did Domino do with the Von Suds album? Did it get a US release?

I voted "Less than a month after the UK release".

Divvey - May 25, 2009 10:51 AM (GMT)
doesn't matter.
Action will ship & the product will be inferior

otherdave - May 25, 2009 06:15 PM (GMT)
4 months after, if you don't count the copies shipped as "Michael Jackson Live in London".

rainmaster - May 25, 2009 06:44 PM (GMT)
Oops!

Didn't see this poll when voting above. :ohdear:

Expect the US version to include the title track 15 seconds longer than the UK one.

Drjohnrock - May 27, 2009 02:11 AM (GMT)
No US release. I base this on: (1) Domino US website having no mention of working with The Fall, unlike Domino UK website, and (2) Domino US not replying to an e-mail I sent them a few weeks ago asking if there will be a stateside release. I guess it's gonna be another use of cdwow on my part...

Exopsychicton - May 27, 2009 06:45 PM (GMT)
Immaterial simultaneous, material perhaps delayed. I speak of purchasable versions, not the leak we will all get first.

As it's the Fall- I will buy after leak. Even if it sucks.

duckpin236 - May 29, 2009 06:19 PM (GMT)
It will be a period of weeks later in the USA because the company will have to work on the disc and insert so that it will be unpalatable to Nebraskans. Nebraskans are known to attempt to eat anything that is not a threat to eat them first and if they find something that goes through their digestive systems, they are a threat to cross state lines and grab copies intended to people whose primary concern is music, not nutrition.
Imports appeal to Nebraskans to avoid the above.

rainmaster - May 29, 2009 07:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (duckpin236 @ May 29 2009, 07:19 PM)
It will be a period of weeks later in the USA because the company will have to work on the disc and insert so that it will be unpalatable to Nebraskans. Nebraskans are known to attempt to eat anything that is not a threat to eat them first and if they find something that goes through their digestive systems, they are a threat to cross state lines and grab copies intended to people whose primary concern is music, not nutrition.
Imports appeal to Nebraskans to avoid the above.

Is Bruce Springsteen a Nebraskan?

He did an album called Nebraska.

If so, send him a promo with my compliments - hope he chokes on it! :D

Exopsychicton - May 29, 2009 08:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (duckpin236 @ May 30 2009, 06:19 AM)
It will be a period of weeks later in the USA because the company will have to work on the disc and insert so that it will be unpalatable to Nebraskans. Nebraskans are known to attempt to eat anything that is not a threat to eat them first and if they find something that goes through their digestive systems, they are a threat to cross state lines and grab copies intended to people whose primary concern is music, not nutrition.
Imports appeal to Nebraskans to avoid the above.

Nebraskans have a superstitious aversion to aluminium foil, so that would work. However, no laws or even caveats are ever placed on imported goods due to a national indifference to Nebraska in general. They are secretly encouraged to devour various poisons, hence the vast ratio of population per square mile (in addition to being hunted when straying from defined borders).

Drjohnrock - June 1, 2009 12:53 AM (GMT)
The chances of a US release would greatly increase if the PVC label was still around. They put out US versions of TWAFWOTF and TNSG during the Classic Brix Era of '83-'85.

Conway - June 2, 2009 10:46 AM (GMT)
My guess is 1-2 months after the UK. Either that or never. Sorry yanks.

REX - June 11, 2009 12:11 AM (GMT)
Domino are pretty good about releasing things in the US, from what I've seen. I mean, if they released Orange Juice here, for gods sake, why wouldn't they release The Fall? It may not be released on CD, but it will be available on iTunes.

IWS was released digitally eventually but that was Sanctuary, right, who were going through all sorts of legal bullshit at the time after being absorbed by Universal.

edited to add: We'll get it in Spring 2010.

Drjohnrock - June 11, 2009 02:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (REX @ Jun 10 2009, 08:11 PM)
Domino are pretty good about releasing things in the US, from what I've seen. I mean, if they released Orange Juice here, for gods sake, why wouldn't they release The Fall? It may not be released on CD, but it will be available on iTunes.

edited to add: We'll get it in Spring 2010.

IIRC correctly, Domino declined to realease something by Robert Wyatt in the US. If they declined to release that, I can't imagine them releasing the Fall stateside. The last time I checked the Domino US site, NO mention was made of The Fall, unlike their UK site which promptly trumpeted The Fall's signing. In addition, the e-mail I sent to Domino US a few weeks ago asking if the gruppe's next album would get a US release has gone unanswered. The logical conclusion: no US release.

Digital release? yawn :zzzz: Call me a Neanderthal, but I like to have something tangible with liner notes, etc., especially when it comes to such a seminal group. Having music only in digital form seems to me to take something away from the specialness of music. 2010 release? If so, how pointless is that? The delayed US release of IWS made no sense--all of the devoted fans already had it, and there was no publicity for it that I know of.

Besides, none of it matters without Brix. -_-

REX - June 11, 2009 03:21 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Drjohnrock @ Jun 10 2009, 09:32 PM)
Besides, none of it matters without Brix. -_-

You're too funny.

I just wanted to say something about this:
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Having music only in digital form seems to me to take something away from the specialness of music.


No, it takes something away from the specialness of *packaging*. The music is still there.:rolleyes:

Drjohnrock - June 11, 2009 03:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (REX @ Jun 10 2009, 11:21 PM)


I just wanted to say something about this:
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Having music only in digital form seems to me to take something away from the specialness of music.


No, it takes something away from the specialness of *packaging*. The music is still there.:rolleyes:

I guess we'll ultimately have to agree to disagree on this, REX. To me, the "packaging" is part and parcel of the experience. A logical extension of your argument (which I can hear you making now!) is that the "packaging" was just a way for the big evil corporate capitalist pig robber baron record company moguls to make money. And while I will readily acknowledge the long history of the moguls' bad (and at times, self-defeating) behavior, there are other ways to go about it. Roger McGuinn related not long ago about the much greater royalty rate he had through an independent label. Many bands that tour the clubs get much meeded additional income through selling CDs after the show, and who's to say they can't arrange to get them pressed independently, without the involvement of any label? And don't get me started on illegal downloading. I'm not accusing you of that but it's a real problem. Musicians are entitled to get paid for their work.

The only other thing I'll mention now about the download/non-download debate is something another board member wrote not too long ago in another thread. I don't recall his exact wording but he said that now that he had tons and tons of downloaded songs, he didn't find himself playing them nearly as much as his "packaged" music. Maybe when something is too available, it loses some meaning..

But beware, REX. Vinyl is making a comeback! It's modest compared to the pre-CD era, but vinyl sales took a big jump in 2008. A lot of young people seem to be getting into it, including the 13 year old son of a family friend who loves his ipod but also waxes enthusiastic about vinyl.

Have you sold all of your CDs and vinyl yet? If not, let me know. Maybe you can sell me some stuff I'd like at a good price.!^_^

REX - June 12, 2009 01:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Drjohnrock @ Jun 11 2009, 10:19 AM)
I guess we'll ultimately have to agree to disagree on this, REX. To me, the "packaging" is part and parcel of the experience.
...
Have you sold all of your CDs and vinyl yet?

I work in the book industry. Everybody is terrified of the Kindle, because it's the first major in-roads to digitizing the industry and it obviously hurt the music industry because most of those big evil corporations were either resistant to or not prepared for the changes.

In other words, I hear these arguments every day. I appreciate what you're saying, but still in the long run, it's just refusal to change.

I understand the comeback vinyl has made; nobody said having an album as an actual, physical conversation piece isn't *fun*. Of course it is. But it's also a specialist market, not a mainstream one the way it used to be.

The new generations of kids will be raised with digital downloads as the primary form of music and they won't have the physical associations that our generations have had. Lots of artists and labels are going to try different experiments to maximize their capital intake, but if somebody *just* wants music, they're just going to download it.

AND of course I'm not selling my CDs or vinyl. (Vinyl isn't a digital format so it's not redundant with my iTunes library.) And yes, I may have ripped all of my CDs to my hard drive, but personally I feel that if I were to sell them, I would legally lose the license to have the copies of the music that I've made. I understand that different people have different ethics about this, but that's what I believe.

RepoMan - July 8, 2009 06:11 PM (GMT)
Chose the "there won't be one option".

DeusErac - July 21, 2009 02:50 PM (GMT)
1-2 months after

dj hollerbusch - December 20, 2010 06:46 PM (GMT)
:)




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