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Title: Hip Priest vs New Big Prinz vs Big New Priest...
Description: Who's the most appreciated?


S5 not Manc - December 9, 2004 11:02 PM (GMT)
I apologise for yet another vs. poll, but this needed to be done.

Personaly I have gone for "Big New Prinz", by far the best out of the two. As I really rate "Hip Priest" extremely low, not my cup of tea what so ever.

Your turn?

The Eccles Connection - December 9, 2004 11:31 PM (GMT)
Hip Priest for me

Why?

1. On the best Fall Album
2. Balances the "quiet" and "loud" sides of the Fall
3. Lyrically superior
4. Features Burns and Hanley P in twin drum mode
5. Is allegedly about Johnny Cash

Having said that I adore Big New Prinz but HP just wins on merit.....

S5 not Manc - December 9, 2004 11:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Eccles Connection @ Dec 10 2004, 11:31 AM)
5. Is allegedly about Johnny Cash


Really??

As anyone would know who listens to the Mercora show, Johnny Cash is one of my favourite solo artists, if not the best.

Sasha - December 10, 2004 12:22 AM (GMT)
'Hip Priest', seeing as I attempted to steal the drum beat for a song for one of my bands.

Both good though.

I drink cheap cider - December 10, 2004 01:29 AM (GMT)
Nearly went for Hip priest, went for Prinz for the pure bottom shaking riff instead.

Too hard to choose.

Jim

worthless recluse - December 10, 2004 01:37 PM (GMT)
I heard BNP (eeek! :unsure: Or have I uncovered a Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds-style hidden code) first, and I reckon it sounds better after familiarity with HP. It's not only a particularly stompin' number, but also gains power and resonance from its relation to one of the most legendary and powerful Fall songs. HP is almost ritualistic in feel, and is really the essence of the band at the time boiled down to something skeletal but monolithic. Simultaneously stark & lucid, and mysterious and atmospheric. Both songs are massive and great in different ways.
Another poll in which I shall abstain -_-

scratch - December 10, 2004 03:37 PM (GMT)
Hip Priest, for sure. The whole vibe of the song is just more to my taste. Love the high vocal parts. One of my all-time faves.

Steve Local - December 10, 2004 03:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (worthless recluse @ Dec 11 2004, 01:37 AM)

Another poll in which I shall abstain -_-

Yep, and me, for the same reasons.

fallchase - December 10, 2004 11:00 PM (GMT)
big new prinz i love to tap the beat to this song on my stomach and erica's butt. its so catchy, and its a fucking classic. this song fucking rules.

REX - December 10, 2004 11:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (fallchase @ Dec 10 2004, 06:00 PM)
i love to tap the beat to this song on my stomach and erica's butt.

Chase, you've topped yourself with this quotable comment.

LutenAnt - December 11, 2004 12:35 AM (GMT)
What do you do when you are listening to Bolero or Flight of the Bumblebee?

Itchload - December 11, 2004 02:48 AM (GMT)
Hip Priest...more for the Peel version which I've been into lately. The loud parts on the Hex version have never quite meshed with me...they sound poorly produced or something--in a bad way. Love both versions though as well as both songs.

fallchase - December 11, 2004 04:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (LutenAnt @ Dec 11 2004, 12:35 PM)
What do you do when you are listening to Bolero or Flight of the Bumblebee?

it depends, i love to tap my hands to the tunes mostly of middle mass and big new prinz. middle mass to me would be great to play for a bunch of drunken british men dancing around. big new prinz should be played for the unappreciated people in the work force.

Rosa Dartle - October 30, 2005 06:43 PM (GMT)
On "I Am As Pure As Oranj," when "Hip Priest" turns into "Big New Prinz"... MAMMOTH!

Spazzy Bystander - October 30, 2005 08:31 PM (GMT)
BNP... Less faffy, more meat.

imaglasgowmanmyself - October 30, 2005 08:35 PM (GMT)
big new prinz

Dice Man - October 30, 2005 11:34 PM (GMT)
"Hip Priest" - it surprises more.

popchrist - October 31, 2005 03:35 PM (GMT)
Big new Prinz for me. I'm surprised its polling up so well against Hip Priest which seems like one of those God like Fall songs that no other can touch (generally, not personally)

JonN - October 31, 2005 04:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (S5 not Manc @ Dec 10 2004, 11:02 AM)
Personaly I have gone for "Big New Prinz", by far the best out of the two. As I really rate "Hip Priest" extremely low, not my cup of tea what so ever.

Same here.

Martin - October 31, 2005 04:07 PM (GMT)
Hip Priest is a wondeful effort and I don't like it very much.

Hender - October 31, 2005 04:46 PM (GMT)
I find it depressing that a band as innovative as the Fall had to record a "rockin" version of one of their old songs.

strifeknot - October 31, 2005 05:46 PM (GMT)
"Hip Priest" is staggeringly brilliant, one the band's very best songs, with a subtle mood and atmosphere. An eerily calm song, punctuated with explosive bursts of beautiful noise.

There's not much going for the other song here, which is vastly, vastly inferior.

Dr. Sprtsch - October 31, 2005 06:26 PM (GMT)
The mood, surprises and effects of Hip Priest does not hold water anymore, it gets tiresome after a few listens.
I can never get enough Big New Prinz though.

fallchase - November 1, 2005 12:57 PM (GMT)
i have a better chance of having sex playing bnp then hp.

donkeyradish - November 1, 2005 05:04 PM (GMT)
Can't get enough of either. Voted for BNP. (No, not 'that' BNP)

doctor chunks - November 6, 2005 03:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (fallchase @ Nov 2 2005, 12:57 AM)
i have a better chance of having sex playing bnp then hp.

calm yourself chase :o
is that why you were drumming on erica's behind?
is this quirk still appreciated a year later? B)

strifeknot - November 6, 2005 04:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (fallchase @ Nov 1 2005, 07:57 AM)
i have a better chance of having sex playing bnp then hp.

You woman finds crappy music to be an aphrodisiac then? A related question: Is getting laid sufficient reward for having to suffer through crap music?

fallchase - November 6, 2005 07:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (doctor chunks @ Nov 6 2005, 03:27 PM)
QUOTE (fallchase @ Nov 2 2005, 12:57 AM)
i have a better chance of having sex playing bnp then hp.

calm yourself chase :o
is that why you were drumming on erica's behind?
is this quirk still appreciated a year later? B)

lol that was in the past erica and i are no more, so ladies i am single out there

Rosa Dartle - November 6, 2005 07:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (strifeknot @ Nov 1 2005, 05:46 AM)

There's not much going for the other song here, which is vastly, vastly inferior.

Respectfully, sir, don't you know how to rock?

Rosa Dartle - November 6, 2005 07:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (fallchase @ Nov 6 2005, 07:04 PM)
lol that was in the past erica and i are no more, so ladies i am single out there

Hmm... I don't know. Ohio, eh?

strifeknot - November 6, 2005 07:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
QUOTE (strifeknot @ Nov 1 2005, 05:46 AM)

There's not much going for the other song here, which is vastly, vastly inferior.

Respectfully, sir, don't you know how to rock?


Sure, but the bellybutton lint song "BNP" doesn't inspire any such thing.

Rosa Dartle - November 6, 2005 07:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (strifeknot @ Nov 6 2005, 07:13 PM)
Sure, but the bellybutton lint song "BNP" doesn't inspire any such thing.

Fair enough. I agree that rocking is about the only thing to do with that song. If it does not inspire rocking then so be it.

For the record: others have rocked.

strifeknot - November 6, 2005 07:34 AM (GMT)
But it doesn't rock. Put aside the fact that it isn't a particularly good song, it simply doesn't even have any "rocking" in its favor. I actually don't even dislike the song, it just isn't anywhere near as potent, beautiful, or original as "Hip Priest."

Rosa Dartle - November 6, 2005 07:43 AM (GMT)
Well, reasonable minds (if you'd take the leap, and grant me the admittedly unmerited honor of assuming that I have one) disagree.

I have no point, nor agenda, as I don't think one can try to convert another who has heard both songs plenty times. I state, merely, my viewpoint: Big New Prinz does indeed get me jumping up and down and distracted from my work*, whereas Hip Priest leaves me cold, bored, and at times even embarrassed.

I think the reason that I love the "Pure as Oranj" version so much is that it busts what I percieve as the pomposity of "Hip Priest" with humor, power, and that intangible and supposedly subjective thing known as "rock."

Your words "potent, beautiful, and original," I think, eloquently express your appreciation of "Hip Priest." I promise to turn it up loud and keep trying, although I'll probably always like it better when it transforms into a perverted glam explosion, with the most unlikely of call-and-response.

*esp. opening "Kurious Oranj" and live on "As Pure as Oranj"

twinz2z - September 27, 2007 07:12 PM (GMT)
Has to be Big New Prinz, cant say I agree with the poster who says this is a souped up version of an old song, more like its the song he was searching for from the start. What is the Gas Track, by the way? Which album is that from?

Mere Pseud. - September 27, 2007 08:11 PM (GMT)
Big New Prinz because it it causes me excitement each time I hear it. Hip Priest might be more original, not only due to its status as the older brother, but I prefer it only when I'm in a special mood.

EAgas1 - September 28, 2007 10:37 AM (GMT)
Big New prinz - punishing bass line.

Hip priest is a weird one - its not bad but often when i put Hex on this is the song i skip most.


Völlig Totall - December 20, 2008 05:40 PM (GMT)
Drink the long draught, then check the records. :beer:

duckpin236 - December 20, 2008 05:58 PM (GMT)
I checked the track record and went with Hip Priest but all have something to recommend them.

rainmaster - December 20, 2008 08:56 PM (GMT)
Can't comment till I've heard the 'Pure As Oranj' version, which is winging it's way to me as we speak.

Of the two better known one's, I prefer New Big Prinz over Hip Priest, but I'm fond of the live versions on 27 Pints and Various Years which combine the two.




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