I have written to MES pointing out the errors below four times, but - as yet - I have had no reply...

Dear Mark E Smith of The Fall,

Bingo-Master’s Break-Out! – A movable feast! If this was how you wanted the song title spelled - ie wrongly - then why is it spelled later as "Bingo Masters Breakout" [NB: No apostrophe] on Early Years 77-79? And then, as "Bingo Master's Breakout" on Psykick Dance Hall [Sic: See below] and on The Fall Box Set. Third time lucky...
Underground Medecin – Medicine.
Psykick Dancehall – Psychic. Dancehall becomes two words when used by you on a later compilation CD, both for the album's title and on this song's title. Whilst both are acceptable, you should settle on either one or the other.
Flat Of Angles – Do you perhaps mean Angeles? Or, possibly, angels? If so, say so!
Putta Block – Putta is not an accepted abbreviation - of anything.
Leave The Capitol – Capital?
I’m Into C.B. – CB is fine. It is an acronym.
Jawbone And The Air-Rifle – Air Rifle.
Rollin' Dany – Danny, surely?
To Nk Roachment: Yarbles – You are just making words up now. Please see also the entire tracklisting of TNSG and TRNFLP/COTC.
Cruisers Creek (TNSG CD) – Cruiser’s Creek.
U.S. 80's-90's - 80s-90s . No apostrophes. They do not possess anything here. Perhaps you could have given one of the rogue apostrophes to Cruisers Creek? [Sic: See above].
Terry Waite Sez – Says.
Haf Found Bormann – Have.
Mess Of My – This is an incomplete statement. I have let many other examples of this by you go, but this is just meaningless.
Northerns In Europ – Northerners. Europe.
The Frenz Experiment – Friend’s/Friends’? Arguably, Frenz’.
Oswald Defence Lawyer – Oswald’s.
I Am Kurious Oranj - Curious Orange. As you have spelled correctly in Overture From 'I Am Curious Orange’.
New Big Prinz – Prince? Prints???
Gentlemen’s Agreement – Questionable. Plural noun, not ending in S, possessing. The current accepted usage here is Gentlemens'. I prefer your - some may say "archaic", I would say "correct" - usage.
Pittsville Direkt – Direct.
Paranoid Man In Cheap Sh..t Room – Only one ellipsis needed here.
Pumpkin Head Xscapes – Escapes, presumably?
Everything Hurtz – Hurts.
C'n'C-Hassle Schmuk – Schmuck.
The Ballard Of J. Drummer – Ballad.
The Marshall Suite – You repeatedly spell this as "Marshal" in the song titles on this album. Who do you mean? Marshal or Marshall?
Cyber Insekt – Insect.
Hark The Herald Angels Sing – Hark! The Herald Angels Sing
Hands Up Billy – This should be either; Hands Up! Billy, Hands Up, Billy! or Hands up, Billy. Although, now I come to think about it...
Are You Are Missing Winner – I can’t begin to tell you where you went wrong with this sentence…
Crop-Dust – Ideally, this should be two words.
Bo Demmick – Do you mean Bo Derrick? If so, say so.
Where's The Fuckin Taxi? Cunt – An apostrophe - or a simple g would suffice - after the n in "fuckin’". Where's The Fucking Taxi, Cunt? would have been preferable. Note my placing of both the comma and the question mark.
Reformation Post-TLC – A hyphen is used on the CD sleeve, but it is not on the spine nor on the CD itself. Why?
Youwanner – Two words! The second is highly dubious, even as a colloquialism.
50 Year Old Man – 50-year-old.
Is This New – May we have a question mark at the end of this question, please.

Sincerely,

Elvis C

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Looks like you and i are the only ones burning this particular 5.25 lamp, EC.

I tried to vote for Paranoid Man... purely because i hated then, as now, that the SHIT was asterisked out.

Keep getting an error message, so can't vote.

Everything Hurtz.

text speak. Sounds like a song from an emo band with 16 year olds...

I thought the song was a about a criminal hiding in a flat for ages, and getting so bored with it he starts to calculate all the angles in the flat? or something like that....
:ohdear:

I like these titles, he wrote 'em that way on purpose, and I'm an English teacher so there :P

Flat of Angles - read Dreams in the Witch House by HP Lovecraft.

:D A lovely list of pedantry, well done, he should be bloody pleased to receive it, four times.

...but, only one-third of an ellipsis needed, that is one full-point to replace the missing 'i'.

I always translated flat of angles as the 4 walls of gunblast man's prison cell.

Alternatively it could be an archeological find of some bones of 6th Century Nordic folk who settled in East Anglia.

:D

PS read the Lovecraft plot summary on Wiki....interesting

I don't think CB counts as an acronym as it's not a pronounceable word in itself e.g. UNESCO, FUBAR etc. and it is an abbreviation of Citizen's Band.

Also, giving benefit of the doubt to Mr. Smith, I though 'Leave The Capitol' might be a call to dispense with governmental administration rather than the capital city.

You didn't put a question mark at the end of this question. -_-

And what's wrong with 'Flat Of Angles'? It's a genius title!
It's either a flat (as in, not a hoose) of angles (corners) - trapped, paranoia, etc.
Or it's a flat (as in, geometrical shape) of angles that has some kind of symbolic significance...I love that title. :devil2:

Good, PoLl though coz it 's an importan as-pect of the grupe thats often just toleratted, but i thin speliNg and garmma are thing's that should be re: spected.

Also, it's Paranoia Man on the LP, i'n't it?

:lol:

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Oh, and maybe his name was Marshal and he was a Marshall....? :unsure:

I always thought the spelling of Danny in Rollin' Dany was a nod to the French 1968 agitator Daniel Cohn-Bendit who was known as Dany Le Rouge.

What's wrong with Gentlemen's agreement. A perfectly acceptable use of the saxon genitive, I would say. -_-

another query with the saxon genitive:

Dr. Bucks' Letter - from Unutterable
or
Dr. Buck's Letter - from Touch Sensitive Bootleg Set


B)

Would depend if the name were Buck or Bucks, I would suppose. B)

Incidentally Elvischomsky, you might be interested to know there has been fevered discussion in Private Eye over the last few months about where the apostrophe, if any, should go in "Pedant's/Pedants'/Ped'ants Corner".

0 against 35 :o
for the bootleg versions... btw

see here, what google fight says

:confused:

a non-existance of Dr. Bucks then?

B)

Surely some of these can be put down to good old typos by the sleeve-makers?

Sorry about all that.
I had chronic insomnia last night.
Finally managed to get a few hours sleep around 8am.
But then I had this nightmare that I was playing Scrabble with MES.
We just kept arguing and arguing.
It all ended in tearz...

First of all I have it on very good authority that "the committee" will be meeting early next week[I'm not on it for lack of qualifications] and it may well be "Doctor Didact" for you after the meeting. If there's justice, it will be: Fine effort here.
There are two of us that think Gene Vincent's Rollin' Danny morphed into Dany as an homage...."Fancy Gap's a lonely town when you're the only leftist boy around"...very nice to hear that.
As another aside, this list has more of my particular favorites than most others I've seen.....I vote for Marshal/Marshall which I think was a test to see if we were really paying attention :lol: Dr Didact[Ooops :ohdear: ] clearly was :lol:

I hadnt thought of the 'Anglo-saxon' "Angles" angle before, -interesting.
The other 'Deliberate' mistakes are just that,-;{ deliberate].
Its the original version of the 'Rap' dumbing 'down' of language.
But in MES case it could better be described as 'Dumbing 'UP'.
Friends--Frenzy--cant count on one hand? dont be a wanker is what I always thought he meant.
Lots to think about due to the slight changes to Language, making it more amenable to understanding and less Perverted.

I don't have it to hand but if memory serves, the Voiceprint edition of Early Years set a world record in this area...

Excellent point!
But now I think about it again, should it perhaps not be an asterisk or a dot, rather than any kind of ellipses*?

* Yes, I meant to use the plural here.

Don't be. Best thread evah.

(Incidentally, I tried to do the crossword on the tube home last night and it looked like MES's handwriting)

Thank you for bringing these up, they are important points.

Acronym. A word, usually pronounced as such, formed from the initial letters of other words (e.g. Ernie, laser, Nato). The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English (1991), Oxford University Press. p. 12.
Most people would call CB, BBC, IRA, or USA acronyms, others would say they are strictly initialisms.
I think this exciting debate will run and run...

An interesting reading of Leave The Capitol, too! But it is hard to see how one could reach such a conclusion from the lyrics, which seem to be about MES wanting to leave London (the capital city of the UK) and return to Manchester.
"It's a hand on the shoulder in Leicester Square... Then you know you must leave the capitol,
Straight home... I will leave this ten times town..."

There's categorically no doubt-benefit to be giving because in the press release for Slates MES writes re Leave the Capitol "note fancy spelling" !

Yes, but I don't think we can give that too much credence as we have already shown that MES is a rotten speller.
He might have meant the song title to have been; Weave The Capitol.
Or maybe MES changed it to "Capitol" so London wouldn't assume the song was about her, and get all upset?

Pah! You'll be telling me that Craig Scanlan didn't change his name by deed-poll to Scanlon next...

Oh, by the way, Craig Scanlan didn't change his name by deed poll* to Scanlon.

* NB Two words!

GodDAMMITT!! *

I think Stewart Home should employ you as his proof-reader because the punctuation in some of his books is shocking. Official!


* mis-spelling deliberate - sworn affidavits available on request.

Either "proof reader" or "proofreader", please Mr C.

:) Agreed. I think that was where i was going next.

Sh.t, that is completely rubbish.
Sh*t is the convention in proper circles.

I love this thread—there's definites, no "are they or aren't they...?"
Of course they're shit live.


(I think there's only one kind of ellipsis, i know there is...)

Stewart Home's books can't be better than his films, surely?!?

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And what have you got against hyphens, elvis?
I loves a hyphen. :wub:

Doh!!! (dons dunce's cap). You've now forced me to bring out my heavy artillery and point out (more in sorrow than anger) re this:

that on the original 7" the song is actually titled Bingo-Master. It's the record in its totality which is entitled "Bingo-Master's Break-Out!"...

PS I googled "proof-reader" just to check you were correct (you can't be too careful on this forum... RT once claimed to me that Ludus were superior to Joy Division - imagine!) - and discovered that Glasgow University provides a (paid) "proof-reading" service for international applications (!)

http://www.gla.ac.uk/services/careers/stud...lstudents/news/

I can understand that people might want to get their applications checked in advance but the idea of having them vetted by an arm of the very same organisation they're ultimately submitting them to strikes me as utterly bizarre. Talk about cutting out the middle man!

I have nothing against hyphens, only their misuse.
People always mock grocers and their rogue apostrophes, but at least you never see them advertising King-Edward-Potatoes...

As long as language communicates, elvis.
You should know that, being a writer.

Is it pen pusher or pen-pusher? :whistle:

"The cold winter evenings must fly by"

:D

I'm waiting for the "was it a hyphen or was it a dash" hoohaw. That should be good for half a page :D .

That's more like it. Excellent post!
Why can't the rest of you be more like Mr C?

I've tried, but I don't have the Latin....

I do not know any Latin
Or
I have not learnt Latin

And using the word "sorry" occasionally never does any harm, does it BK?

You're deliberately trying to wind me up now, aren't you?