Long EP, short LP, or something else?

"worthless recluse" ........Where did you get that name????? I have a cd of an artist whos album title is that! A texan guy named "Jandek" Anyone heard of him??? :mellow: His music is very errr different!

By the way.........i reckon its an ep!

I think it is pretty much the perfect Fall LP. All the songs are fantastic and there is no space for guff like Fireworks or Crew Filth.

:lol: I'm having this conversation with you on 2 different threads.
Yes I'm a huge Jandek fan... I made a small contribution to this film (soon available on dvd!):
www. jandekoncorwood.com

To the Jandek fan, your opinion on this....

Five yrs ago a Texas interview, purportedly with the damaged man himself, intimated (or stated as fact, can't remember) that Jandek is not only gainfully employed, but works in a white collar profession.
He was also a paranoid fook (but of course)
It was featured on the Jandek homepage.
Personally, think the interview was hooey or that Jandek is, as we say in the biz, faking his symptoms.
The estimable mystique of being a masked "Resident' y'know.

Great book on so-called 'outsider' artists. It's called IN THE KEY OF Z ( or is that the name of one of the CD comp. tie-in. Blanking.) Usual suspects but more. the great god Beefheart is of course included

Slates is a masterpiece in miniature, a small miracle punching far above its own weight. Its songs are works of genius, not a flabby moment to be heard.

mr mpeters, you are dead on and a rarified sensitivo! SLATES was and is a rarified joy to behold

Yeah! ive seen that interview!.........Didnt know what to make of it though! .....Might not have even been him for all we know! Anyway "worthless recluse" I am glad to know im not the only "jandek" fan on this board. Cant wait to see that film about him by the way!

It's both 2 and 3.

maybe a mini LP?

ciao!
marco

Yep, it's a real interview conducted by Katy Vine for Texas Monthly with someone who wouldn't admit or deny being Jandek but was associated with Corwood Industries ;) The white collar job was also mentioned to Irwin Chusid in the aforementioned Songs in the Key of Z book (and Chusid is much less shy about revealing his "sources"). Katy Vine also appears in the Jandek on Corwood documentary.

Little is certain in the world of Jandek - though Jandek impersonation (or anti-impersonation :wacko: ) is not yet a common phenomenon to my knowledge.

It's great... also you get to see my boots in it :D
200 Jandek Fans Can't Be Wrong! :applaud:

What's the difference between an EP and a maxi-single?

^_^ I haven't heard this one. OK, what IS the difference between an EP and a maxi-single?

Seriously though :mellow: I would suggest that an ep wouldn't have a lead track like a single... or a title track though that seems arbitrary... well a single is a main track with b-sides and an ep is more of a collection I suppose. Jesus, I added this thread and can't even decide how to vote.

I classify an EP as a longish record which isn't long enough to bea proper album but has more tracks than a single. The record itself was at the time chart inelligable because it did not meet either criteria, but I think it veers towards EP myself. But of course its great. Not the EASIEST of listens but I certainly need to spin it again SOON!

It's an album - it's also probably the most esteemed item in the Fall catalogue (the yanks, in particular, love it), but apparently it's not going to have a remastered 24 bit super-version-o-special released. Unless it's going to be the bonus tracks on Hex, in which case hoorah.

I think older lover, etc is the best thing on it, today.

I have meaning to mention this worthless recluse...I'm also a huge jandek fan


In fact my poor wife has had to listen to more jandek and more fall then any human being should be subjected to..

can't wait to see the film


and slates is an ep

In cataloguing my own collections, I use the Trouser Press Record Guide definition for the most part.

3 or fewer songs (not tracks, different mixes/versions of the same song count as one) are a maxi-single

4 to 6ish songs of a less-than-LP length (and less than LP price) are an EP.

A mini-LP is just a long EP in my own estimation.

Originally, an EP was a 7" record that played at 33.33RPM which held 4 songs.

Oh god what have i started here? Jandeks attitude of realeasing on average two albums a year since god knows when does sort of remind me of mes and co! :applaud:

Conway has been saying Slates/A Part of America Therein should be along in one of Sanctuary's deluxe reissues around July/August.

I think it's an EP myself. Playing time is about 23-24 minutes, so it could fit on a 3" CD (which would be kinda neat, though it wouldn't do the artwork any favors). On the other hand, I consider Serge Gainsbourg's Confidentiel, which is about the same length, an album. It has twice as many songs, though.

The whole catagorization thing is kinda screwy when you consider such anomalies as: a ) the "maxi-single" of Brian Eno's "Fractal Zoom" which contains eleven mixes of that cut and runs over seventy minutes; and b ) Stereolab's "EP" First of the Microbe Hunters which runs about forty minutes and has seven songs — roughly the same proportions as Genesis's 1971 Nursery Cryme, which I don't think anyone would have called an EP at that time.

This particular yank thinks Slates merely pretty good. I might form a different impression if I listened to the original vinyl more often, but it somehow doesn't seem like a complete statement to me. No weak songs, though.

:applaud: Trouser Press! Where I read about The Fall long before I heard them.

Whatever it is, Slates is the greatest record made by anyone anywhere anytime, that I've heard anyway.

Not that I've heard much; you won't get any 'obligatory cosmoploitan music viewpoint' from me. I think I've made a hash of that Hex quote.

New one Shadow of Leaves imminent :applaud:
Being completely self-sufficient (and not touring) also means that he doesn't have to suffer the kind of problems the Fall do, and can churn 'em out as quick as he records them.

:lol: She must love you a lot :wub: There's no way to sell Jandek to some people... some friends of mine completely freak out when I try to play them one of his... can usually get away with the Fall though

I got her to admit one day that she didn't hate jandek

I think she secretly likes the fall.

Slates was the moment when The Fall became my favourite band.
So many ideas in such a small space- an absolute copper-bottomed classic of original and exciting rock music.

I reckon.

When i gave a copy of a cd of jandeks to a friend his comment after hearing it was "sounds like bored music to me!!" :o hmmmmm! debatable i suppose! :huh:

nah! actually i love the texan! cant wait for "shadow of leaves" cmon jandek! :applaud: