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Kas - September 27, 2004 01:28 AM (GMT)
Seen as how this is the section for suggestions i have a couple ;)

First suggestion is to try contacting invision (dunno if it'll work or not) they might be able to revert the forums to a back-up version to get most of the posts back..

Second Suggestion is to block new sign ups for a little while, to stop the annoying spammers who keep signing up just to spam so that they'll get bored and move on :)

mt2 - September 27, 2004 01:32 AM (GMT)
Registrations now require me to approve them, good idea!

I'll see what I can do about contacting them. :)

Kas - September 27, 2004 01:34 AM (GMT)
Its possible they wont do anything but its at least worth a try :)

digifan2004 - September 27, 2004 09:43 PM (GMT)
Beam in. Waveuser posted image .

It seems this place had a new look therefore need a new theme. I have several ideas in mind to reflect the board's new look including a custome logo. Please PM me if you want access to the files.

Kas - September 29, 2004 01:45 AM (GMT)
Seems they are hacking this forum and continuing to change my sig etc so if it says anything offensive just ignore it (or preferably remove it) ill fix it up the next time I log in.. should probably report this abuse to invision so they can ban the isps from all of the forum boards or something..

Kas - September 29, 2004 02:25 AM (GMT)
I sent in a proper report to invision, hopefully they'll do something about the continued harrasment from TNZ admins

Kas - September 29, 2004 09:23 AM (GMT)
YOU Left you created your own boards now quit coming here and swearing on ours and making a mess of things! Can't you see thats NOT a way to deal with anything ever??? If you dont like something leave!

Kas - September 29, 2004 09:26 AM (GMT)
Plus Jon Deleted the RPG's and all of the posts and then started spamming us with crap saying go to your forum boards not anyone else, yet you still have him as an admin there

Natima Lang - September 29, 2004 02:27 PM (GMT)
A leader is not necessarily who can make the most noise. A leader is the person who can lead in an ethical manner--and that is where MT will always come out ahead of the style of "leadership" that I see you all attempting to demonstrate: which is a false leadership by coercion. Look to your history books to see how successful that is in the long run.

Guest - September 29, 2004 04:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Natima Lang @ Sep 29 2004, 02:27 PM)
A leader is not necessarily who can make the most noise. A leader is the person who can lead in an ethical manner--and that is where MT will always come out ahead of the style of "leadership" that I see you all attempting to demonstrate: which is a false leadership by coercion. Look to your history books to see how successful that is in the long run.

thats a load of horse shit...mt will never be a leader......you are fools to be following him...I hope you enjoy your shitty time here witha ass like him

Natima Lang - September 29, 2004 07:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 29 2004, 11:49 AM)
QUOTE (Natima Lang @ Sep 29 2004, 02:27 PM)
A leader is not necessarily who can make the most noise.  A leader is the person who can lead in an ethical manner--and that is where MT will always come out ahead of the style of "leadership" that I see you all attempting to demonstrate: which is a false leadership by coercion.  Look to your history books to see how successful that is in the long run.

thats a load of horse shit...mt will never be a leader......you are fools to be following him...I hope you enjoy your shitty time here witha ass like him

I find it rather funny that you are the only person(s) here resorting to name-calling, whereas I see MT attempting to move forward in a productive way from this incident. That gives the lie to your words, doesn't it?

Guest - September 29, 2004 08:51 PM (GMT)
are you saying that Captain Mike didnt do anything for this forum?? thats a load of bull

Natima Lang - September 29, 2004 09:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 29 2004, 03:51 PM)
are you saying that Captain Mike didnt do anything for this forum?? thats a load of bull

No, you did not read properly what I said. Notice that I referred to the future progress of this board. My support for MT is because he is attempting to move forward from this incident. He did have much to give in its initial founding, too. While he had to leave temporarily due to a family emergency, I do not hold that against him. In the interim, Captain Mike did have a good bit to give. However, the behavior upon MT's return has been completely unacceptable.

While Captain Mike did have much to offer in his time, the trouble came with the attempt to promote TNZ as a replacement for this forum, with complete disregard for the rest of this community. While it was Jon who actually did the deletion, Captain Mike showed himself to have the same lack of ethics, when he participated in the harassing of this board. It is not that he never did anything for this forum--in fact, what he did contribute makes it even more of a shame that he went and nullified it with his behavior and that of his supporters. That's probably one of the most unfortunate aspects of this situation...that I did have such high confidence that ended up being completely violated by this whole chain of events, which has continued to spiral more and more out of control.

I have never attempted to come over and harass you at TNZ, and you have every right to enjoy your board over there. Why you cannot leave us in peace is beyond me. We need not even speak to each other again, our two groups, and we could let this all drift away into the past. There is no reason that's not possible.

Admiral Spock - September 29, 2004 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Natima Lang @ Sep 29 2004, 09:38 PM)
QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 29 2004, 03:51 PM)
are you saying that Captain Mike didnt do anything for this forum?? thats a load of bull

No, you did not read properly what I said. Notice that I referred to the future progress of this board. My support for MT is because he is attempting to move forward from this incident. He did have much to give in its initial founding, too. While he had to leave temporarily due to a family emergency, I do not hold that against him. In the interim, Captain Mike did have a good bit to give. However, the behavior upon MT's return has been completely unacceptable.

While Captain Mike did have much to offer in his time, the trouble came with the attempt to promote TNZ as a replacement for this forum, with complete disregard for the rest of this community. While it was Jon who actually did the deletion, Captain Mike showed himself to have the same lack of ethics, when he participated in the harassing of this board. It is not that he never did anything for this forum--in fact, what he did contribute makes it even more of a shame that he went and nullified it with his behavior and that of his supporters. That's probably one of the most unfortunate aspects of this situation...that I did have such high confidence that ended up being completely violated by this whole chain of events, which has continued to spiral more and more out of control.

I have never attempted to come over and harass you at TNZ, and you have every right to enjoy your board over there. Why you cannot leave us in peace is beyond me. We need not even speak to each other again, our two groups, and we could let this all drift away into the past. There is no reason that's not possible.

I agree with you in some facts....btw its Admiral Spock who is saying this.....I understand what you mean I dont mean to make it sound like I am blaming everyone....I want this fued to end as much as you and mt do....

I dont understand why this is turning so bad as it is....I mean mt came back, thats great to hear, but from what I am being told be several people is that he pretty much took over everything that Captain Mike and Jon made....he stole that from them....thats why pretty much this is happening....

I just dont like this at all and I will stop posting here but not until this fued is over...but I doubt that it will be

Natima, I dont know you very well, and I dont want to be your enemy, but it seems that at the first instant you put all the blame on Mike and Jon and it seems that all the facts are not being laid down here

also - September 29, 2004 10:03 PM (GMT)
I just wanted to tell you that you will be happy to know that TNZ is closed....

Natima Lang - September 29, 2004 10:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (also @ Sep 29 2004, 05:03 PM)
I just wanted to tell you that you will be happy to know that TNZ is closed....

That does not particularly please me; I would not have asked you to close it. I would have never come over and disrupted your place or anything like that.

As to why this matter got out of hand, it's down to the deleting of posts, the spamming, and so forth. All of that was extremely childish and did nothing to actually solve the issues. That kind of behavior accomplishes nothing, because if you're busy having to defend yourselves, that's hardly the environment for a rational discussion. All that happens is that both sides dig in their respective trenches and pop out only to take shots at each other. It's not like I want to have enemies, but can you understand why the spamming and deleting and name-calling causes a lot of hurt?

I think MT has laid out his own case on this forum, so I won't rehash all of that, but I hope that what I've said explains why things got so far out of hand.

Admiral Spock - September 29, 2004 10:25 PM (GMT)
my bahaviour to this board was bad...and I didnt really mean to spam..acting outta rage I guess...also TNZ was not closed because of the Admins doing it InvisionFree closed it because of violating the terms of service

Natima Lang - September 29, 2004 10:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Admiral Spock @ Sep 29 2004, 05:25 PM)
my bahaviour to this board was bad...and I didnt really mean to spam..acting outta rage I guess...also TNZ was not closed because of the Admins doing it InvisionFree closed it because of violating the terms of service

I see...well, I suppose it's good that at least the air's been (hopefully) cleared a little bit.

I've got to go now, because the time I've been writing here, I should've spent writing some other things that need to get done.

mt2 - September 29, 2004 10:41 PM (GMT)
I suggest learning the facts before you state hearsay on what really happened with Mike and his pals.

Admiral Spock - September 29, 2004 10:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mt2 @ Sep 29 2004, 10:41 PM)
I suggest learning the facts before you state hearsay on what really happened with Mike and his pals.

I guess some parts is that he lost something when you came back....I dont know how long he has been Admin but the whole time I was there he was it....

Seth - September 29, 2004 11:20 PM (GMT)
What happened to their board now?

Seth - September 30, 2004 12:13 AM (GMT)
All this fuss over imaginary places of congregation.

mt2 - September 30, 2004 12:25 AM (GMT)
:lol:

Guest - September 30, 2004 12:30 AM (GMT)
our board was closed down...thanks to your complaints...but I have a message to bring you mt2 from Captain Mike..is that we will leave you alone if you get our forum back online...thats all we ask

Kas - September 30, 2004 12:37 AM (GMT)
I was the one who complained I said as much in a thread yesterday.. I was sick of my sig being changed without my permission even -after- all other admins had been removed from the board which means someone hacked in to do it.. and it was changed to something rather offensive.. That plus the swearing and constant harrasment taking place here warented having invision looking into it..

Now, all of you run along now and leave us in peace! There is no point in continuing these discussions further.

mt2 - September 30, 2004 12:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 30 2004, 12:30 AM)
our board was closed down...thanks to your complaints...but I have a message to bring you mt2 from Captain Mike..is that we will leave you alone if you get our forum back online...thats all we ask

He may contact Invision Free about that. We had nothing to do with what he did, or how IF responded.

Admiral Spock - September 30, 2004 01:45 AM (GMT)
IF closed us down....its as simple as that....we apologize for all the comotion, but we want to set it right...whoever sent the complaint to IF, send another message saying to let us have our board back....then we wont bother you again...you have my word and Captain Mikes for that matter

mt2 - September 30, 2004 01:47 AM (GMT)
You don't seem to understand. No one will bug us, and no one will fix your mistakes.




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