I was just curious if our characters were allowed to have had some role in history? I'm not talking about an actual historical figure, but, a character who did have a seemingly decent sized role in a historical event?

Hm.. i'll try to explain..

I was bored and thought I'd write up a nifty character who is based in ancient Egypt. He's an acient vampire - coming in at over 5,000 years. The idea behind him (the basics, at least) is this:

He was a young warrior during the time of the First Pharaoh, Menes. Menes was supposedly the first King of Two Lands, having united Upper and Lower Egypt under a single ruler. The idea is that my character, who was then called Kemnebi, rose quickly in the ranks of Menes' army, and became a trusted adviser and strategist, even adapting the recently born written language of the Sumerians for use with Menes' army.

However, during a battle which took place during a full solar eclipse, he was mortally wounded. The bloodshed, however, drew from the desert a being who demanded the respect of all present - Ra... at least, that's who he portrayed himself as. Ra took the fallen warrior in, having watched him for some time, and chose him to stand by his side. The supposed god took Kemnebi away as the eclipse came to an end.

Three days later, Kemnebi emerged from the sands, pale as a ghost, and filled with new life. He had been given a new name that day - Tehuty, or, as the Greeks would later call him - Thoth.

Now, the thing is.. he isn't the actual Egyptian god Thoth, however, he is supposedly a basis for portions of the myth. Thoth was a Moon God, and he became a Vampire that could only emerge during the night. Thoth supposedly gave writing to mankind, while he helped adapt the Sumerian writing style for Menes' army, which became the ruling faction. Thoth supposedly helped Horus defeat his uncle Seth, while he helped Menes (whose name actually means "Horus in the reeds"), ruler of the South, land patroned by Horus, conquer the North, lands patroned by Seth. And so, he simply played the role of Thoth for the time he remained in Egypt, along side his sire, the false Sun God, Ra.

Anyway, yeah.. if this isn't acceptable (which I could understand), its totally OK, but, I didn't think it could really hurt to ask.

personally i think it's a bit much. Once is based on gods which actually do exist, and once you get into the whole thing about the origin of theological myth and gods that don't exist (or do elsewhere), things get technical and want explanation and this isn't, though gods play a part, a theological roleplay.

Well, like I said, I could understand if it wasn't acceptable. Thank you for responding.

I'm quite fascinated by it, actually, though I'm certainly not going to call it either way. Have you PMed ||| (our Admin) about it? You'd likely get a faster answer.

Oh, ok, i'll PM her with the link to this thread then. Thanks for the heads-up.

A role in history-- yes.

Responsible for portions of god myth-- no.

Were you to have a character either drawn directly from history (for example, how Tanya Huff used Henry Fitzroy), that'd be fine. To have a character who participated in historical events-- as long as you know the history, it's fine.

But I'm uneasy about this idea, and would prefer you thought a bit smaller. For one thing, out own Thoth, known currently as Apoth, might blast you.


(As with all things, I remain willing to be convinced, though I don't necessarily think it will happen in this particular case. Sorry.)

No need to be sorry. I didn't get my hopes up about it, but, I didn't think it could hurt to ask, like I said. I mean, it wouldn't be too hard to go much 'smaller' and simply have him have played the role of Thoth in a small area of Egypt and not actually have had any part in the god myth (being an ancient con artist, more or less), but, i thought i'd throw the question out there, as I also wanted to know about the historical bit as well.

Thanks for your time and responses.

apoth still might blast you.
either way, you'll still have to keep running your ideas by amy (|||), since the character will be much older than five hundred years.

You speak of conflict with the divine as if its a bad thing :P

And yeah, I understand I still need Amy's approval, but, by the way she answered, it didn't seem like an ancient con artist would infringe upon anything. And, I'm not even sure if that's what I'll go with trying for, it was more of a 'oh, that might work' lightbulb going off that I decided to add in, lol

I think it would be fun indeed to have someone pull off the god-myth-con-artist thing. It'd also be neat to see them continue pulling it off in gullible Unnie arcane circles-- and then run into the real thing.