Hello. As you may recall from about a million years ago, we've been planning some Digiworld T-shirts. Several exciting obstacles emerged, most notably that our little T-shirt guy (who first vanished then reappeared in a flower-pot) fell through.* Following some "things" we've decided to try it ourselves.

Accordingly, we present the DIGIWORLD T-SHIRT POLL. Hurrah!

With "some T-shirts" reduced initially to a manageable "a T-shirt" and a slogan specially composed by Mr Biffo for unimpeachable authenticity, we've gone with a big Zombie Dave face saying a thing.

At this point, we're just gauging interest in the T-shirt and its design (there's a choice of three slightly different ones). If there's any of (it) the idea is to have a prop-o-shop page (which I'm currently adapting from the T Weekly Corner Shop corner shop) where you can pre-order and choose shirt sizes, so we have a better idea how many to print and how many of those ought to be Lean, Strutting Mediums and how many Shamed Curtains-Drawn XXXL, etc.

The shirts would (obv) be black. The designs are to an A3 template, so with a favourable wind ought to be lovely big front-covering pics rather than weedy discreet feeble logos in one corner or something. We're aiming (that's AIMING: it depends if there's enough interest) for a super-low cost of £10 per shirt, including P&P (ie, the TOTAL cost is £10), with a discount for spesh friends probably of 10% (or £1, calculation fans). If I can work it all out, hopefully the Digi Shop will handle everything automatically - you'd log in to Digi as usual, then go to the shop and it'd recognise your speshness and apply the discount. Or it may catch fire. I don't know yet.

As I say, the first thing to do is determine which (if any) of the designs you, our lovely readers, may like to tattoo on your chests without even the inconvenience of chestly tattooing, so look at the pics: here:

http://digiworld.tv/digiworld_T-shirt_pics.html

then come back and vote. (The pics are on a separate page because some people have trouble seeing forum pics through "firewalls" or something.)

JN.

*A crack in the glazing.

Not too keen on the first one, the vortex disturbs me although I do like the eerie font.

I prefer "Slogan" and have voted accordingly.

I voted for the first one and my preference goes: 1, then 2 then 3.

I think the red swirl should be a different colour maybe. The 'front and back' reveal tee sounds like a good idea :D

[EDIT - Oh yes and I should mention that I'm 'small' too.]

[EDIT 2 - Feel free to use the above edit against me. I'm feeling generous :)]


giant_frying_pan

The two designs 'reveal' and 'slogan' look nicest - simple is best. The 'vortex' design looks too messy, aesthetics wise.

Oh, and please make sure the shirts are available in small size. Thanks.

The vortex is cool, the other's are a bit dull IMO.

The "Reveal" got my vote. It's just "more Digi"... If you see what I mean.

Plus it made the result awkwardly even.

i prefer "reveal", but none are particularly poo.

I was instantly indecisive about the first one. (Is that classed as a reaction?)

The second and third I like almost equally, however both would be improved with a system/mode seven style font. It'd make the text stand out better than thin old Courier, for one.

I'd buy the vortex one and hang it up somewhere. I'd actually wear the reveal one, because it looks quite cool regardless of the fact that it's digi.

Reveal, deffo. Atlhough it was close between that and the Slogan one.

The reveal for me. Though I dont know if i'd buy one though? Maybe you could get one made and hire a model to model it (or just throw it on a tramp) so we can see what it looks like.

Can we have some mugs soon please?


P.s If you make that vortex thing I will kill three goats and a doormouse. You have been warned.

I'll buy anything threy throw at me. Sad, but true. I want a Mr. T shirt, and maybe a Le Chef apron.

Definitely the 'reveal' one. It's lovely.

I think that a digi character with a slogan in a authentic digi speech bubble is the way to go. Its understated but still cool unlike the vortex which is about as guady as you can get ;).

Id defo buy that and probably other character + speech shirts, featuring any of the classics from the past ;), the snakes and mr sunny would be amazing!

Yes reveal is the best. Man this is super great. I can't wait.

And i hope this is a start of a series of t-shirts, i'd also like to see morse and lewis, the snakes all the old classics, but also gladstone & disraeli must be t-shirted. And godzilla vs. physics.... and The mug shots, of rev and popular... and and...er

I'll shut up

Plus somehow a zombie dave keyring must be manufactured.

I want a Death t-shirt. He needs a hug.

Will the green border appear on the shirt, i'd prefer it didn't.

Another poll?

Oh, and I have voted for option 2, no. 1 is just nasty.

I agree about the reveal one being 'most Digi'. (and 'mos def'? possibly)

Dare I say it though, any chance of making some non-black T-shirts? I know that Digi has a black background and all, but black T-shirts are beginning to get on my nerves. Also, I had a black Snakes T-shirt from Bubblegun which fell apart on the second wash. I was very upset.

teroman:
>Will the green border appear on the shirt, i'd prefer it didn't

It won't; the border is there merely to indicate the edges of the designs, so you don't think, "Where does it end? Does it include all the text describing the picture? What's going on? WHAT'S GOING ON?"

shrinkwrapped:
>Dare I say it though, any chance of making some non-black
>T-shirts? I know that Digi has a black background and
>all, but black T-shirts are beginning to get on my nerves

Almost no chance at all. As anyone who read that embarrassingly poorly designed ("Verge" - Ed) feature will know, Digi-y graphics don't merely fail on anything but a black background, they make everyone involved look like idiots. Still, that award-winning clean, white, empty space, eh?

>Also, I had a black Snakes T-shirt from Bubblegun which
>fell apart on the second wash. I was very upset

Obviously I've no idea about Bugglebun, but our T-shirt Printing Bloke uses "the decents." (He did the T Weekly T-shirts, including an absurdly ambitious multi-colour bright red one, about which I've received no fade-o-collapse-o-complaints, unless everyone's too polite.) Or possibly you're still buying that largely discredited Persil Caustic.

As to requests for (say) Gladstone & Disraeli T-shirts, the funny thing is this: T-shirt costs are based on colours used. It's a bit like paper printing: your blue-ink fanzine isn't that much to knock out at Wheezing Bob's Print Castle, but your million-colour mag mixes four colour plates and goes up like a rocket. Therefore, despite the fact they're just a bunch of single-shade blocks, G&D's five colours (white, blue, yellow, red and green for the speech bubbles) would be so phenomenally expensive that (for example) T-shirtbloke just said, "No," rather than calculating an estimate. (Death would be around the same: blue, red, cyan and white, plus magenta if Mrs Death makes a guest appearance.) As we're unlikely to be printing a million at a time for national sale in HMV or something, we probably wouldn't be able to keep to that £10 price. We'll see how things go after Zombie Dave, if things go after Zombie Dave. Fair enough?

JN.

I think anything up to £15, postal charges included, is reasonable.

But then I think a lot of things.

Bah! Why must your new character designs be so complex?!? It's not fair!!!


giant_frying_pan

Godzilla is one colour!

KG

And he dislikes physics!

Are you all crazy?

The most underrated Shirt'o'T is the Spiraled Vortex one.
It's effect on children and small animals will be devastating.

Everyone! Choose the first design, it is BY FAR the most complete and Zombie Dave states boldly(in Z Davespeak, natch) his words. ("ruck"-Ed)("cough"-Ed) You ("bumps"-Ed)

Because the flowers aren't that pretty this time of year.

I chose the first option, but mass opinion has swayed my feeble mind. option 2 knicks it.


giant_frying_pan

Clearly the Vortex one is the nicest. You sickening array of drooling champanzees, you.

Hello.

Of course 'Reveal' is the best. This is because it is the best. And for that exact reason it gets my broad-shouldered vote-me-do.

All done!

Yeah, I'll go with the reveal one although a blockier font would have more impact.

And i'm a medium. <insert_talking_to _dead_joke_here>

Reveal gets my vote.

Are people voting for Reveal because it looks nice or because it has a reveal?

I think a reveal, complete with heavy swearing, would just make the wearer look like an attention seeking gork. Plus it'll mean lots of people reading your back as you pass and tutting to their small children.

medium sized reveal t-shirt for me....

The snakes in their one colour would be perfect for t shirts, yes.

I...

You....

....What?

Read the thing, crazy guy!

"There's an idea for a proper "reveal" shirt, with the "before" pic on the front and the "revealed" pic on the back, but that's too elaborate for this early stage."

So presumably it'll just be the full image on the front (Which I'd prefer, to be honest), with no front/back reveal japery.

Reveal is my favourite. But there are a lot of characters who I would MUCH rather see on a shirt. The crab, complete with a "I'm crabbing you up, man!" would be good. Or The Man's Daddy with one of his jokes.

Pleeeeeeeeeease make some more shirts other than this Zombie Dave one.

The Vortex is nice in it's Ed Wood stylings, but perhaps needs to go the full way into the overblown 50s horror graphics thing to be a full on success.
My vote went to The Reveal because The Reveal keeps it real.

I would however push for the fully working reveal-oh shirt which could be made using the wonder of the 20th century textiles, Global Hypercolour: Work up a sweat and see Zombie Dave roar!

The best sort of reveal would involve a copy of the revealed image to pop-up on a pole from your back, activated via some kind of pocket-lever, so that the people in front and behind of you could see it flapping away in the town-breeze; like the flags on the backs of all those little foot soldiers in Akira Kurosawa's masterpiece cinema-film - RAN.

Those crazy little flag-backed guys, running and flapping around on the fields of war, creeping between the shadows in my bedroom, scampering through the supermarket - flitting around the aisles.
I CAN SEE THEM I TELLS YEA!

How many colours is Mr T?

Stay AWAY from my T SHIRT!

If you want a reveal, just tape a bit of fabric over the top that you can 'lift' at people. They might have run away before they see the design though.

And surely Insincere Dave has to have a T shirt. He's great!

Just do em all. Get a lottery grant or something.

Mr. T: Black background, brown (black) skin, yellow (gold) chain. Two colours.

Insincere dave would make a good slogan: "I think you're great!!!!!!!" and similar predictable things.


giant_frying_pan

GF Pan:
>Mr. T: Black background, brown (black) skin, yellow (gold) chain. Two colours

Red skin,* but you forget this: third colour (green or white) for whatever he's saying. (I suppose you could go with red or yellow text, but it wouldn't be Quite Right. I'm a big fan of Quite Rightness.)

All of the T-shirt ideas have been excellent, apart from those which were rubbish, but the colour thing IS a bit tricky. Costs go bonkers the more colours you add and we're unlikely to be printing the thousands necessary to bring (say) a five-colour Gladstone & Disraeli down to less than £60000000 per wrap-garb. Still, we'll see how Experimental Z Dave does, if he ever emerges from the Digiworld maw.

FLASH! After conclusive consultation with the little Digiworld guys (ie, everyone typing, "No, YOU shut up," for 15 hours in a row) I've now sent a slightly tidier version of The Reveal to our trusty T-shirtbloke (Z Dave's head's moved over a bit and the logo is more appropriately discreet), so we'll see what he says. ("I can't open these stupid files, you idiot," going by past experience, but there you go.)

JN.

*Obviously black wouldn't show up on the black background with his black eyes. He'd be this: a scruffy yellow necklace.

Well I know but black people aren't really black though.Brown is just a shade of red anyway so I'm half-right. Okay, one-third right.

A quarter?


giant_frying_pan