Title: Turbo Prelude Vs. MR2 Turbo
97Luder - July 23, 2003 04:03 PM (GMT)
As some of you guys know, I am thinking about getting a new vehicle (possibly MR2 Turbo) but I love my lude and wouldn't want to get rid of it. So, a few things are going through my mind:
1. Buy an MR2 Turbo and boost the snot out of it (apparently they can handle up to 20 psi of boost daily) :)
2. Keep the lude and build the botom end (This is going to be hella expensive though) :(
Unfortunately, it will cost less money to get 350 whp in an MR2 than it would my prelude.
What do you guys think I should do? (unbiased answers please :) )
ludemonkey - July 23, 2003 05:03 PM (GMT)
they are both good options...
if u do sell the lude though.. sell it to me for cheap... just so.. umm you know its in good hands... ill let u come see it when u want :)
mr2s a nice cars... i always see that yellow one on the streets... better yet because they are more unique... in winnipeg anyway...
i voted keep the prelude cuz it would be a shame to see ya leave the prelude club... dont leave out the 3rd option of picking up a cheap 4th gen prelude out east and boosting it :)
phizzle - July 23, 2003 09:17 PM (GMT)
go wit the mr2...those are crazy cars...plus they're pretty rare (well at least more rare then a prelude)
greenz00 - July 23, 2003 09:23 PM (GMT)
i'd say go with the mr2.. reason for that is u got more advantage of speed and hp due to the fact that is rwd (better launch) and considerin it light as well....like u said.. it doesn't take much money to get it to 350 hp rather then buildin a prelude up..
its personal preffernces.. eaither way u'll b satisfied.. good luck... juss remember.. only reason u got a mr2 is because prelude turbo is too much for u (u can't handle this) :P
slo mo - July 23, 2003 09:57 PM (GMT)
I dunno...an mr2 is an mr2. When I see one I never double take. I don't know much about them but the yellow one owned by a guy named rodney is around 400whp. I think he's put a hella big pile of cash into it. Just because you can boost something at 20psi of boost doesn't make it fast. WRX's boost at 14psi stock and only produce about 170whp.
I dunno, mr2's have never done anything for me. Maybe it's because I've never driven one.
Mr. LuDe - July 24, 2003 01:51 AM (GMT)
if your interested in buying an mr2....my cuzin is selling one.
yes it's turbo :P
if you want more info on the car i can give you my cuzins cell number.
oh by the way....y not keep the lude and buy the mr2?
you'll need a winter car ;) MRD cars are easier to spin out in
lude4life - July 24, 2003 03:56 AM (GMT)
MR2's are sweet cars, but there are only a few in the city i like and they are both yellow. I hate the stock ones with all the black moldings on them. they are pretty quick cars as long as they are turboed. I drove my buddies turbo MR2 when the turbo wasn't working very good and my 92 accord could've killed it. Plus no power steering can be a bitch in the city when driving around in parking lots.
Personally i would love to own one in the future for a major project car, but i don't think i would ever give up my lude for one, though. So my vote will be to keep the lude.
Steve
97Luder - July 24, 2003 05:07 PM (GMT)
Wow, this is great guys. I thought I would get a biased oppinion towards keeping the prelude but I'm glad some of you have an open mind.
All of you guys have valid points which I have thought about and have debated back and forth (I even dream about Preludes and MR2's).
Hey Wally, is your cousins name Wallace and is he selling a teal 93 MR2 Turbo? If so, I have already talked to him about his MR2. If this is the same car, he wants $20,500 which is way more than what I'm willing to pay for an MR2. At that rate, I would rather build my Prelude up. If this isn't your cuz, what year, how many km's, what colour, and how much is he asking for his MR2?
I guess the bottom line is that I will only get an MR2 Turbo if I can find it at a reasonable price. Otherwise H22 Darton Sleeves, JE pistons, Eagle Rods, Crower Cams and Quaife diff..........here I come! Just joking.........those are in my dreams as well :) Anyhow, eventually those parts will be in my lude if I decide to keep it.
Thanks for your input guys!
ludemonkey - July 24, 2003 08:42 PM (GMT)
what you SHOULD do if your looking to save a little money is sell me your setup (for a good price) and then build up a h23 (mine) haha... ive heard the block turbos better... :P
but maybe there is a reason that i havent heard of it done before.. so u might be the first.. and wouldnt that be cool! :huh:
lude4life - July 24, 2003 08:53 PM (GMT)
The main reason the H23 takes boost better than the H22 is because of the compression ratio. If you build the bottom end of the H22 you will be able to boost high amounts of psi daily without any problems. I know of many guys that run 12-15 psi daily and up to 30 psi on track days. Some even run nos on top of this. So yeah, definitely build up the H22, it will definitely not disappoint!! :brucelee:
Steve
Mr. LuDe - July 24, 2003 11:33 PM (GMT)
hey kim, yeah thats my cuzin. it hink $20,500 is a pretty reasonable price. I told him he could probably get a lil more but I guess you can't go wrong with $20,500.
how much are you willing to spend?
ludemonkey - July 24, 2003 11:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lude4life @ Jul 24 2003, 10:53 AM) |
The main reason the H23 takes boost better than the H22 is because of the compression ratio. If you build the bottom end of the H22 you will be able to boost high amounts of psi daily without any problems. I know of many guys that run 12-15 psi daily and up to 30 psi on track days. Some even run nos on top of this. So yeah, definitely build up the H22, it will definitely not disappoint!! :brucelee:
Steve |
shhh...
ur not helping me with my h22 turbo swap :)
lude4life - July 25, 2003 05:05 AM (GMT)
oh, sorry jer, haha. didn't mean to blow your little plan!!! :blink:
Steve
97Luder - July 25, 2003 05:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
hey kim, yeah thats my cuzin. it hink $20,500 is a pretty reasonable price. I told him he could probably get a lil more but I guess you can't go wrong with $20,500. how much are you willing to spend? |
Like I said, the MR2 is a nice car, however, it is 10 yrs old! How much did they cost new? My guess is that it was about $25,000 (yeah, i know, inflation but I don't even want to go into that) There are about 8 of them for sale in Calgary and over a dozen in Toronto available at more attractive prices.
Bottom line is, if he can get $20,500 for it then great. My oppinion is that your options are WIDE open once your looking for cars above the $20k range.
Anyhow, I am willing to spend about $15k on a Turbo MR2. Anything more than that, I am better off building the bottom end of the Lude.
97Luder - July 25, 2003 06:00 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| The main reason the H23 takes boost better than the H22 is because of the compression ratio |
Not true. A lot of people boost at 10:1 compression. H22 and H23 blocks don't like boost above 10psi period. It has nothing to do with the compression ratio. The weakest link in our engines is the FRM Sleeves (Fiber Reinforced Material - its a fancy name for Aluminum sleeves). Another weak area is the Ringlands which can't handle high boost.
prelude97 - August 5, 2003 07:49 AM (GMT)
damn at first I voted to keep the lude.. but on second, even though we'd be losing the nicest prelude in the club.. I think you should buy an mr2 turbo. I just browsed through the teal mr2 in the trader.. and it looks hella nice.
fusionlude - August 9, 2003 07:22 AM (GMT)
prelude97 - August 19, 2003 05:21 PM (GMT)
kim I barely see you post anymore so I dont know if you'll read this.. but how is your mr2 search going? I've taken a huge interest in them as of late.. and its all your fault! haha.. I've been casually looking around for a 91-93 mr2 turbo, but theres only 3 for sale in winnipeg.. and none I would consider. Theres 2 in alberta and 1 in toronto that I would consider, however I'd rather buy local. Did you give up on your search? Or are you still looking?
97Luder - August 20, 2003 04:57 AM (GMT)
I'm going to Toronto in September and will most likely come back with one as there seems to be quite a few there. If not, no big deal as the driving season is almost over. There is always the winter as most people sell them rather than store them. Worst case scenerio is that I buy one next year :)
lude4life - August 20, 2003 03:54 PM (GMT)
So what do you intend on doing with the lude if you do infact find an MR2???