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ludekris5 - June 15, 2003 07:43 AM (GMT)
has anyone seen that guy in that silver prelude i think hes prelude97 the guy with the greddy turbo kit hes got an intercooler now i wonder how much boost can he run now hmmmmm if anyone knows him please let me know cause we could share info i guess :DJ: :rolleyes: sorry im still new here so i dont know anyone yet :blink: :blink: :blink:

ludemonkey - June 15, 2003 07:51 AM (GMT)
welcome... be sure to post in the new members section and tell us about your car so we know who you are at the next meet...

your thinking of 97luder... easy enough to get mixed up... if u search around u can find a vid of him rippin it... but ill be nice and post it up.. or at least try to in my state

Turbo Lude

also check out pics of our last meet.. hes the one with the nice RH Z5000 :D

ludekris5 - June 15, 2003 07:59 AM (GMT)
cool thanks :hellzya: :hellzya:

GLUDE - June 16, 2003 01:52 AM (GMT)
hey ludekris5...are you that same guy thats selling those velox rims and is posted up all over rrc?!

97Luder - June 16, 2003 05:12 AM (GMT)
ludekris5 - I'm running 7psi which seems to run fine on stock internals. I'm sure it can handle a some more but i'm not willing to try it :). I've done a few mods which in my opinion has reduced the chance of detonation.

-FMIC
-Oil cooler
-Colder plugs
-Redline water weter
-Soon to be rad fan, thermostat mod.

7psi is more than enough power for a daily driver, trust me :D

ludekris5 - June 16, 2003 09:09 AM (GMT)
sweet dude thats pretty good and yes its alright i guess dont try it like me i guess cause when i ran my turbo non intercooled at 9-10psi it was alright until it came to 11 and kaboom i thought i blew my engine but lukily it was just my manifold so i had to get rid of my turbo install but now im just waiting for my new manifold down pipe and 3" straight pipe cause my set up is ready for my new turbo (t066) and no more problem for 12-15 psi daily driven. and oh yeah who did your install and if dont mind me asking and how did you mount your battery in the trunk right thats sweet i need to do that i have an idea but not sure yet but your ride is looking good keep it up :hellzya: :hellzya:

slo mo - June 16, 2003 02:31 PM (GMT)
if you runnin 10 pounds of boost you gonna blow the crap outta your motor. The H22 blocks are crap for boost...unless you built it. At 12-15psi you won't last more than a month.

ludekris5 - June 16, 2003 03:57 PM (GMT)
i know bud but they are able to handle at least 10 psi at stock internals supposedly but with my fully built internals and controlled fuel and detonation its been proven to bring your boost up to 12-15psi daily driven and can be even boosted to 25psi at the tracks and trust me my internals are now fully built to handle that much power ive learned my leason :bow:call me crazy but i crave for more boost and i will never be content with only 10 i guess you can say im boostaholic feind :drool: :drool:

ludemonkey - June 16, 2003 04:06 PM (GMT)
damn.. i cant wait to see that on the track.. let us know when you're going for a run :drool:

ludekris5 - June 16, 2003 04:17 PM (GMT)
wont be long but i still have to fine tune it to run safe but i hear im not the only one in the city thats trying to run high boost on the lude ive met one but i dont know what happened to him :blink: last i heard of him was a month ago and he was going to edmonton to get his block ported and polished now that guys car was crazy fast :bow: :bow: supposedly runs 15psi daily and have run as high as 30psi crazy

ludemonkey - June 16, 2003 04:28 PM (GMT)
crazy....

hey you arent the lude that i met at lot 115 in march?

slo mo - June 16, 2003 04:56 PM (GMT)
what kind of internal work did you do?

stock h22 blocks only seem to hold 6psi "reliably".

You don't get blocks port and polished...you do that to heads. blocks you get bored and sleeved.

What are you using for fuel management? who tunes your car?

I think there's a guy running a h22 with a built engine and t66. think it's in a civic though. from what i know, he really knows his stuff.

not many daily driven h22's run 30psi of boost...if any. There's a H23 running 25 or something...one of the faster preludes in the world.

97Luder - June 16, 2003 05:17 PM (GMT)
ludekris5 - cool, I didn't know you had a turbo in your lude. Are you coming to the meet on July 6th? I'd like to see your car. What turbo kit do you have?

I've met the guy that owns the White civic hatch with the Turbo H22. He's cool guy, and yes, he definitely know his stuff. His engine is fully built and I would definitely go the him If i had any H22 Turbo questions. I would like to buid my bottom end but it cost so damn much.

What did you do to strengthen your bottom end and how much did it cost? (in Canadian funds)

ludekris5 - June 16, 2003 07:05 PM (GMT)
so far ive strenthen my internals with the odd and ends piston etc and yes it has gone through blueprinted/ported polished head,jdm type-S camshaft,ARP head studs,ported/polished intake manifold, all thanks to my cousin in vancouver it was all done for a cheap family price

ps I dont know about that guy with the civic h22 but i hear his name is danny and it is a fully race built h22 and im setting up a meeting with him cause my freind knows him and ludemonkey i think i remember that time i met a guy gave me a parking ticket stub but ended up getting a ticket but its cool though no problems it was only 30$

slo mo - June 16, 2003 07:13 PM (GMT)
If you go with forged pistons don't you have to resleeve? Are you changing rods too?

I think cam with a turbo grind would help you out more than a type s cam. Type S are more for NA applications...but what do i know. I don't even have a vtec engine. :rolleyes:

97Luder - June 16, 2003 07:25 PM (GMT)
Slomo is right, the factory sleeves would shreed into pieces using forged pistons.

Ludekris5 - Thats cool. But Is that enough to run 15psi daily? Our blocks use FRM sleeves (Fiber Reinforced Metal) which is weak for any FI application. What compression level are you at with your new pistons?


ludekris5 - June 16, 2003 07:57 PM (GMT)
yeah you guys are both right thats why im hooking up with that guy who has the white civic h22 my freind says he will be able to help me in all i need to do cause i do want to resleeve and change whatever i need to he also has an AEM plug and play sytem thats a 2000USD system but good to for tunning your car by you self i guess and ive met his brother these guys mean bussiness when it comes to fine tuning your turbo they know it all

ps 97luder have changed your turbo manifold into cooper i hear its alot better for most turbo applications and all ican say is july meet guys i'll bring my turbo for show and tell but mind you though not installed my old kit was t3/t4 garett drag 4 setup no longer installed due to a crack manifold and im uprgading right now so i had to bring it back to NA but mind you though best kill with that turbo was a 99 camaro, s2000,wrx sti , then she blew out of commission for awhile oh well back to the old drawing board

slo mo - June 16, 2003 11:33 PM (GMT)
If you want to resleeve, I'd personally send my block down to golden eagle. They're in cali somewhere. I hear they do great work.

The AEM system is pretty technical...not really plug and play. If you want it to autotune i think you need wideband a/f equipment. I'd rather just pull some good dyno time with a hondata s200.



greenz00 - June 17, 2003 03:07 AM (GMT)
damn.. all this turbo talk makes me want one too..

its finnally nice to see more turbo ludes out there, for a moment i thought there were only one.. which would b 97luder

97Luder - June 17, 2003 04:46 AM (GMT)
Yeah, turbo is great! I love it. I am content running 7psi as boosting any higher "properly" will costs a lot more. (i.e. Another 5 to 7 thousand dollars) which I don't have :)

I know what 7psi feels like and I love it, can't wait to see your car running 15psi :drool:

ludekris5 - June 17, 2003 06:42 AM (GMT)
guess what its easy to turbo your lude actually any car but it just takes time and money if you asked me it took me 2 years first i build up my engine to NA then decided to go FI so after i went around looking for a kit all of them cost from 2500-4000 USD then finally i found one which was good enough even though i never wanted to run high boost but after ridding in my freind's supra wow crazy fast it's a battle between him and me i guess i promised him i will be able to keep up with him someday so thats why i have to go turbo crazy prelude style :lmao:

copperpot - June 19, 2003 01:03 AM (GMT)
is your friend the guy with the red auto supra?

GLUDE - June 19, 2003 01:08 AM (GMT)
there is an mk3 supra with the brospeed decal on his windshield...he has his turbo and engine built up moderately and i could say he can go crazy fast without even trying...his engine sounds like an airliner!!!

ludekris5 - June 19, 2003 08:48 AM (GMT)
i cant say guys he wont allow me but it is an mk3 and can probably keep up with most of them. good news for me though thick rideal head gasket are supposedly able run 12psi daily driven even with stock internals but dont take my word for it ask FMAX turbo they've convinced me though, but a little expensive 380USD but oh well i bought it already so 15 psi here i come vvvvrrrrrrrrrrroooommmmmmm---vteccccccccc-psssshhhhhhh :drool:

97Luder - June 19, 2003 02:23 PM (GMT)
ludekris5 - What are you using for fuel management at 15psi? Hope its not Rising Rate Fuel Pressure Regulator

freshsho - June 19, 2003 06:20 PM (GMT)
97luder are you the guy with the girlfriend that lives near mountain ave?

97Luder - June 19, 2003 06:32 PM (GMT)
Yep, how did you know that?

ludekris5 - June 19, 2003 06:37 PM (GMT)
nope but im thinking of going the hondata system as for boosted honda engines it says you can run 11psi with stock sensors with no piggy backs or controller systems needed and i 'll probably include their GM map sensor that is optional ,which can handle boost of up to 30psi depending on what you've done to your internals already ,,,,,,,,,,, and oh yeah im gonna probably be using my old ERL MF2 controller its good enough for now at 9-10 its what used before its just i went too much before and went to 11-12 but it was safe enough to run 10 with my old system i think it was 4 months then i went and did something stupid like boosting it up to beat cars on cruise nite oh well ive learned my lesson :hellzya:

slo mo - June 19, 2003 11:15 PM (GMT)
dude, that mf2 is crap. If you spending the cash like you say you are, just get the hondata right away. Save yourself headaches when you blow your motor again

freshsho - June 20, 2003 01:49 AM (GMT)
Oh im the guy that drives the red lude nearby.....Dang i didn't know you got turbo in your lude. Good stuff man...... it just finally hit me that i recognized that car by your details......We should get together sometime i would like to ask you some questions bout your car..........Keep up the good work.

ludekris5 - June 20, 2003 07:00 AM (GMT)
ya i know but cant wait too its comming though shipped and ready in two weeks but it all depends on when i get my manifold , downpipe , and straight pipe i have a guy whos custom making it but will take a little longer but i am set if i only knew how to weld hes busy making his sons car turbo upgrade set up(COPPERTOP CIVIC)all i can do is wait :pissed: unless you guys know where i can get it faster :pissed:

97Luder - June 20, 2003 02:33 PM (GMT)
Freshsho - Yeah, we can hit it up anytime. I love "Prelude Talk". Are you going to the prelude meet on July 6th. If so, the restaurant everyone is going to is neary by. We should plan driving down together (if you plan on going of course)

PS - What happend to your rims? I noticed they were off a week or so ago.

ludekris5 - June 22, 2003 06:24 AM (GMT)
:rolleyes: hey 97LUDER HOW,WHO, AND WHAT, did you do on remounting your battery in the trunk i think thats a good idea not only for weight distribution , but for space when going turbo so how if you mind me asking :P

slo mo - June 22, 2003 01:34 PM (GMT)
You can buy battery relocation kits. i'd recommend getting a sealed battery such as an optima so you don't have to route the gases out of a normal battery to the outside of the car.

There are several different kits out there. Taylor makes a very nice one with an aluminum battery box and all the cables needed. You could also check moroso. Search around on the internet for the best price. I think the Taylor kit with box is about 120us.

lude4life - June 22, 2003 06:42 PM (GMT)
Where in the trunk does the battery get relocated to?? It would be sweet if you could fit it somewhere under the mat. I know on my moms car, she has her's in the trunk under the carpet beside the spare tire, looks sweet, nice and clean, but she's got a huge battery!!

Steve

97Luder - June 23, 2003 04:15 AM (GMT)
ludekris - I got my intercooler and piping done by Doug which is Darren's dad. Darren. Cant' wait to see the civic when it's ready. Anyhow, I woudn't recommend anyone else but Doug. He does amazing work. Eventually, I plan on getting a custom 3 inch downpipe and exhaust and I will definitely go back to him.

As far as battery relocation, I used the factory tray and mounted it in my trunk. I bought a Marine battery box at CT for like $20 or something. Then I purchased about 40 ft of 4 gauge ground cables from Jackson Automotive and wired it up myself.

ludekris5 - June 23, 2003 08:08 AM (GMT)
yeah i know him doug, hes amazing hes really good hes making my down pipe and exhaust and manifold but have to wait cause you know hes son's car ....but thats cool though thanks for the info though :hellzya:

ludekris5 - July 6, 2003 04:55 AM (GMT)
guess what guys theres another prelude thats turboed its red has a kit and i think its invader type i met him through a freind and he will be cruisin with me on sunday , hes got the greddy kit too but non intercooled damn that kit is very popular how much is the retail on one of those puppies i wonder ???? :blink: :blink:

slo mo - July 6, 2003 05:02 AM (GMT)
non intercooled?? :noway:

ludekris5 - July 6, 2003 05:52 AM (GMT)
ya i know supposedly the kit does not include the intercooler and dont know how hes gonna run it well this i'll see tomorow




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