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Mrs Lai - July 29, 2005 10:08 PM (GMT)
Seven Swords premiered in Asia yesterday... so far pretty good reviews, average of about 80% so far. Anyway, if u guys find any reviews, please post them here to share... Here's one from BC Magazine...

BC Mag Review Link

Mrs Lai - July 30, 2005 05:25 AM (GMT)
Not so much a review... just an article...

Weekend Standard


GaV - July 30, 2005 09:05 AM (GMT)
with the minority of the not so good reviews, what was the main prob about the film?

Mrs Lai - July 30, 2005 12:09 PM (GMT)
I think ppl r saying because there r so many characters that they weren't all explored. And 2.5 hrs is too short. Not enough action. Leon and Charlie's relationship too sudden. But I actually think he's done it all on purpose so he can explain them on the sequels. If he's made a perfectly rounded movie, there's really nothing more you can add, so no chance of sequel. Oh, and I heard the ending is diff to the RD ending... good... I didn't understand the RD ending... hehe.

Mrs Lai - July 30, 2005 12:12 PM (GMT)
Also, that guy from RTHK that reviews movies on Yu Lok Muen Tin Seng (Chow Kwok Fung's program), he actually gave a pretty good review. Sounded like he really liked the movie. He's pretty picky too that guy.

Leonatic - July 30, 2005 12:29 PM (GMT)
Here's a few review i found on the web :

Since the beginning of the eighties, Tsui Hark has printed the Hong Kong cinema, in particular with the saga of Chinese Ghost Stories, of A Better Tomorrow, and, of course, Once upon a time in China. He produced and directed plethora of remarkable classics (Peking Opera Blues, Green Snake, The Lovers). But since his last masterpiece, The Blade in 1995, Tsui Hark was looking for a second blow. After some forgettable movies (with Van Damme), two following well screwed (Legend of Zu and Black Mask 2), and a brilliant success but not perfect (Time and Tide), Tsui Hark comes back at the front of international scene with his most ambitious project. A traditional sword film, but made for world audiences. Hoped with difficult to hide impatience, Seven Swords is born from two desires : take back the reins of an industry he has always ruled, and, maybe even more important, give an homage with dignity to his fetish director : Akira Kurosawa.

The result is with the height of all these waitings.

The story : at the seventeenth century, Mandchous created the Ching Dynasty, and prohibit the use of martial arts. At the borders of China, a group of mercenaries are in charge to eliminate the rebels. Among those bloodthirsty generals, Fire-Wind rule a barbarious troop, who in the north of China kill men, women, old men, and kids to sell back their heads and grow richer every day. Fu, an old rebel, played by Shaw Brothers studio veteran Lau Kar-leung (director of the 36th Chamber of Shaolin trilogy), ran away from the army to protect the peasants. He try to warn a village of an imminent attack by the army of Fire-Wind. With two villagers (among them, Charlie Young, egery of Tsui Hark's The Lovers), Fu climb the Mount Heaven looking for hiding warriors. Five of those men agree to help them. The great master give each of them a specific sword, according to the abilities. The seven swordsmen go down to the village to fight the mercenaries... On a story that could look just as a remake of the Seven Samourais, or the Sturges Western The magnificent Seven, Tsui Hark bring an epic film, rich and personal. We find here his favourites themes : courage and cowardice, blindness, cruelty and weakness of men confronted to events or dilemmas that exceed themselves. Adapting the novel of Liang Yu Sheng, one of the masters of wu xia (sword novels), who wrote also The Bride With White Hair, Tsui Hark choose to target the masterpiece, without any scruples. Obviously upset by the double provocation of Zhang Yimou (Hero, House of the Flying Daggers), coming to hunt on his field without being invited, Tsui Hark bring his most beautiful weapons : a knowledge of narration, a visual inspiration that we no longer thought he still had.

Among the biggest success of this movie, we'll never forget a group of wonderful bad guys, guided by their libido as much as their thirst for money. The actors have never been so good. The usually not very charismatic Leon Lai impose himself as a charismatic leader without effort, and Donnie Yen give for the first time in his career all the power of his amazing physical presence. As a korean warrior, he is one of the best attraction of Seven Swords. His love story with a slave will be remembered for a long time...

But if Seven Swords is a captivating movie, it's first a amazing show. Filmed in huge and wonderful sets, in the mountain of Continental China, or in full village built on the side of hills, Seven Swords daze by its esthetic power. The directing, maybe a little too classic at the beginning, install itself little by little as the movie go on, and deploy all its magnificence in its last third. We really feel that the movie maker take back his confidence in his tools and capacities. We feel also the width of the bet. Because for a lot of fans, this was the movie of the last chance.

The challenge is well taken, and we will regret all the more the shortness of the movie, that despite its two hours and thirty minutes, feel as fast as a trailer. All goes very fast and the characters, as usual wit Tsui, are only developed in the action. It's a little shame they almost stay as shadows, the more so as their are outlined with genius. We can also regret some awkwardness in the narration, who bring a little too late in the movie some dramatic stakes, like the motivations of Leon Lai's character, or some intense sentimental intrigues that link some characters. When we know that Tsui Hark had in mind a four hour cut (that, despite the rumours, won't be on the DVD, it was confirmed a few days ago in Hong Kong !!!!), we can only regret that he didn't went until the end of what he had in mind with his director's cut, a true epic worthy of Akira Kurosawa.

Another regret : the music composed by japanese Kenki Kawai (Ghost in the Shell, Innocence , Avalon) is a true disaster, not fitting at all here, handicapping the movie in particular in action or emotion sequences. The synthetic composition give absolutely no dimension to the picture, being satisfied in just awkwardly support it, while the picture is already emotionally clear. It gives more reason to cry on the disappearance last year of the great James Wong, faithful composer of Tsui Hark, and true genius.

But all those small regrets to succeed to decrease the success of Seven Swords, that allow to Tsui Hark to win all his bets with this movie. He easily exceed the charm of The House of the Flying Daggers with so much ease... He finds back his brutal and cruel sensuality from The Blade, like he had directed his masterpiece last year. We might want to watch Seven Swords a few times before understanding all its subtleties, before we can fully enjoy its masterly action scenes (the final fight is absolutely unbelievable, remembering the best from the Shaw Brothers).

Seven Swords is the movie event of the year, the long awaited come back of Tsui Hark as the ultimate leader of the Hong Kong movies, the official entry of this industry into a more grown up level, and a reason to wait with more excitation than ever what will follow it.

Rémi Berner ( http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20804)

L1211L - July 30, 2005 12:35 PM (GMT)
I've watched the movie third times but I've to agree with that rthk2 guy (from Brian Chow programme) that we can't actually see everything for the 1st time. I actually enjoyed it more after the 2nd time.
Exactly like what other said, 2.5 hrs is really too short and some scenes seem not connecting, maybe too much of editing. Leon, Charlie & Donnie Yen have almost equal scenes but I don't understand why that Yu Fang (China actress) seems to have the most scenes imo.
Many story especially their backgrounds and love lines can be developed further but they remain very unclear . Maybe like Mrs Lai said, is meant to be like that so that it can be explained in the sequels.

Overall, all the casts did their job well. 7 swordmans managed to bring out the characters of each swords supposed to be. The others like the bad guy, Yu Fang, Green Pearl also performed well. The scenery... :2thumbsup: , no complaints since everything is real. But the person sitting next to me said the color of this movie is so dull unlike other wuxia movies which are very colorful! :err:

Actually, I've a part which I dont understand but maybe I'll ask after u guys have watched it..try to avoid spoilers for those who havent watched it.

Mrs Lai - July 30, 2005 12:41 PM (GMT)
L1211L, just out of curiosity, where do u live? I always thought u were an overseas fan...

Mrs Lai - July 30, 2005 12:45 PM (GMT)
Has anyone noticed, when a reviewer has to praise Leon in his role, they always sorta start or end it with an insult.

EG. the usually not very charismatic LL does a good job...

EG. he does a great job altho I believe he would've been heavily directed... (from Three review)

Grrr... makes me so angry...

leon_mclaren - July 30, 2005 01:09 PM (GMT)
I've watched this movie today. Honestly, this is the first Leon's movie that I support at cinema! I did love Jet Li's movies before. I enjoyed all his classic kung-fu movies as well.

Thus, when i heard Leon will took part in this genre movie, i felt so excited & all waiting this movie hit the cinema. First tme I saw the making clips, I already felt excited about this movie. So, today is my history to get a seat infront of the big screen & enjoyed Leon's movie with popcorn in my hands!

The 2 & half an hour running show... it's something unusual thing for chinese movie. This movie really complicated. Those prefer to romance movie, will never find the actual joy in this movie. But, for those kung-fu or action lovers, this movie is such of "the delicious meal" that you never treasure before. This movie is not too artistic like the Jet Li's "Hero" ain't too simple.

I felt so exciting about the specialities / abilities to each swords. Too many characters, besides it could make a good team of swords-experts. They always defends each others at all time. We could see the result to Donnie's role when he rides out alone from Seven Swords team... he almost been killed.

Just I felt it's too little about Leon's kung-fu fight scenes... i'd knew he is among the best action hero... just not enough exposed. I believe there will be 2nd part of SEVEN SWORDS.... just hope the actors / actress are all the same & hope to see more Leon's kung-fu scene.

I rated this movie 4 out of 5.

GaV - July 31, 2005 09:45 AM (GMT)
yeh it would be pretty crap if they changed the cast for sequels or sth~
and with regards to the 'dull' colour of the movie, well it would just make it much more realistic~

Elly - October 21, 2005 11:01 PM (GMT)
Before I watched this film, I was a bit sceptical about the overall reviews and I did not expect the film to say much to me but I'm wrong. I watched the film with my bf and we really enjoyed the film. LL was playing such a different character to what I expected. I wish he got more fighting scenes though. :P

Guest - October 22, 2005 09:00 AM (GMT)
Which version did you get? I'm not in a rush to see this film right now but yeah, Leon looked cool in the fighting scenes from the preview clips!




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