I'm going to play some battles next week and the week after that so thats why I'v started making this list, what do ya think?

Peotre (thane)
-shield
-master rune of spite
-rune of cleaving
->132

Dragon slayer
-master rune of swiftness
-75

Thane
-shield
-rune of snorri spangelhelm
->92

20 warriors
-shields
-full comand
->205

19 Longbeards (Peotre joins this unit)
-shields
-mu and st-bearer
->243

20 Hammerers
-shields
-full comand
->290

10 Thunderers
->140

9 Troll Slayers
->St-bearer

Canon
->90

Organ Gun
->120

(1448)

Why the Dragon Slayer? Unless you wanted several units of slayers (or unless you needed to slay a Dragon), I don't see the reason. Any points you can spare should be spent for a BSB: I know from experience that a Dwarf unit with BSB is very hard to break, even under a thunderous Bretonnian or Chaos charge. If you take a BSB, put him with the 20 warriors (I don't think Hammerers need him).

The Hammerers are stubborn, aren't they? I'm not sure you need 20 of them. 15 will be quite enough, believe me: they're not so vulnerable.

Why a standard for the Troll Slayers? They're unbreakable, and they're not numerous enough to win combat with their static CR.

I was planning to put the dragon slayer into the unit of slayer so when they get charged the dragon slayer hits first with his mros thats 4 attacks before they hit me, it could make a big difference and there would be a chance i can break them. and thats why there is a banner in there I geuss.

A bsb crossed my mind but it was to expencive, but with the 5 hammerers gone i could make the thane a bsb...

Comments in quote. I'd drop some runes in the characters to get some points to make the second thane a BSB and to bump the Warrior unit to 25. I really think this could be a solid list though, maybe even a tourney list.

More detailed these are the changes I would make:

Thats what I would do. You could switch out the Canon Engineer to upgrade a Troll Slayer to Giant Slayer if you want. That is a fierce dwarf list I like it.

I´m a bit sceptical about those slayers. If I had anything to shoot with, it would certainly be at them first. Really like scalys modifications though :).

The trick to using slayers is the proper deployment (hiding behind a unit of quarrelers which can flee a charge through them without causing a panic check) and yes they are vunerable but they are the only unit you can be happy that they all die (its what they want anyway :P )

Yes, but they want a heroic death, not by cowardly arrows. Hills wont stop them from dying ;) .

Your Thane General should have a great weapon instead of a Rune of Cleaving: it's much less expensive and the loss of speed is not dreadful for a Dwarf. If you're worried about his protection, give him a Rune of Stone.

By the way, what's the Rune of Snorri Spangelhelm?

Not sure it's worth it. You don't really need a BSB when you're stubborn and have Ld9, it's just too expensive for nothing. The better would be, IMO, to put the BSB in an unit that needs it (like the Warriors) but keep the Hammerers not too far.

And I don't think so many Hammerers are necessary. Being a stubborn elite unit, adding more ranks is pretty expensive and perhaps unneeded.

Not everyone gets what they want, ^_^. Shooting and fast units tend to be my first targets for shooting and since any dwarf army worth anything takes a fair ammount of shooting this usually isn't a problem. Unless its a devoted gunline in which case I am glad to have them shoot at slayers since they never panic, better slayers getting wiped out in than numerous panic checks on a 25 strong unit of dwarf warriors. I regularly run a unit of slayers and have had them often pay their points back in spades it just depends on the opponent: gun lines not usually effective, minotaur armies laughably awesome.

+1 Hit

Sure keep the BSB near the other main combat units (Longbeards and Warriors) they should move up as a whole line. Since the Hammerers are the most expensive pointwise I have found that dropping one of them to fit characters leads to more points elsewhere making for a stronger list overall.

I've changed some stuff. I was thinking of changing the Thunderers into Querelers. With thse points i can give the cc untis champions or equip my dragon slayer


Peotre (thane)
-shield
-great weapon
-rune of iron
-rune of iron
->101

Dragon slayer
->50

Thane (bsb)
-master rune of gromril
->115

25 warriors
-shields
-mu and st-bearer
->240

19 Longbeards (Peotre joins this unit)
-shields
-mu and st-bearer
->243

19 Hammerers (bsb joines this unit)
-shields
-St-bearer and mu
->265

10 Thunderers
->140

9 Troll Slayers (Dragon slayer joines this unit)
->99

Canon
-rune of forging
->125

Organ Gun
->120

1498 pts

I like it similar to my own 1500 point list with minor changes. I think you should platest this list a further refine it.