Since the loss of me carefully crafted traditional list 'ave bin lost... stupid manling technology shoddy work <_< . I ave reckoned that ye all deserve ta see me new Karak Kadrin themed warband. For those among ye who don't have a trolls wits about ye Karak Kadrin is the home of tha world famous, and rightly so, Slayer cult. Now in me traditional view them dwarfs are tha best example of what makes us Dwarfs tha best. We don't truck with traitors or failures. Naw! And we Dwarfs don't take the cowards way out neither! Naw! We Dwarfs fight for honor and if I kin 'elp a one of them crazy gits a way outta tha shame wot made em take the Oath in the first place... by Grungni... I will! Mark me words beardlings, manlings, elgi, and worse! I will.

Thane Brom Thorbinsson
Great Weapon
Rune of Stone

Total: 74

14 Warriors
Shields
Command

Total: 151

10 Slayers 110

Total: 110

10 Quarrelers
Shields

Total: 120

Bolt Thrower

Total: 45

Grand Total: 500

Thats a nice little list youve got there

When you said Karak Kadrin, i thought you would be taking a slayer army. but i suppose that unit of slayers works just as well.

Those slayers are going to be picked on like no other by any enemy shooting, but there isnt much you can do against that.

Warrior unit looks good, as do the Quarrllerers, i always have a unit exactly like that in most of my lists.

and of course your bolt thrower is a nice addition to the army.

I really can find no faults in it.

Burro Boskov

I hope this army is the beginning to my most rewarding chapter in my relatively long wargaming career. My first army in 1997 when I began playing Games Workshop was Dwarfs. I always have had a soft spot in my heart for the little buggers. I have always appreciated their seriousness when dealing with grudges, honor, and oaths and yet their ability to be a cheerful, inventive, and drunkards. And I think if I had to a choose a single army to play with in any system it would be Warhammer Fantasy Dwarfs. I have made a living in my secondary school and college years as a professional sculptor, modeler, and painter of several different armies both in Games Workshop games and others. I also have had many armies of my own in fantasy 5th and 6th edition dwarfs, Ravaging Hordes and 6th edition wood elves, 6th edition Brettonia and 6th edition Undivided Chaos.

This being my 10th year in the hobby I can finally call myself a Longbeard in my own eyes and to celebrate I decided to return to my favorite race of all, DWARFS! But since this is somewhat of a capstone project for me I have decided to do this army the hard way. I wanted this army heavily themed and converted. I decided to follow my two favorite parts of dwarf culture. 1. Slayers 2. Tradition. My 6th edition army was based out of Karak Hirn and featured King Alrik and his standard bearer Brom Thorbinsson which is still an army near and dear to my heart but didn't have an over abundance of Slayers.

Long story short (or perhaps longer story made long) I have decided to make the quintessential Karak Kadrin army lead by my old Thane Brom Thorbinsson who will moved with his longbeard bodyguard from Karak Hirn in semi-retirement to Karak Kadrin to marry a fine lass there named Theresa. When Brom arrived at Karak Kadrin he found that his bride-to-be had been killed by a Orc Raid. The grief nearly incapacitated old Brom who swore the most powerful oath in dwarf culture, the Azamar Oath (the Eternal Oath), to his bride's aging father, to bring him the head of the Orc Warlord responsible before Theresa's father passed on to the Halls of the Ancients. Since that time, despite Brom getting on in years himself, he has tirelessly fought against all the nearby Orc Tribes trying to find some sign of his dead bride.

The above fluff which I will flesh out more to be sure will serve as a basis for building an army with all but one unit from Karak Kadrin (including and over abundance of slayers) the other unit will be a single group from Karak Hirn and will be Brom and his Longbeards. Visually Brom and his campaign veterans should be dressed in shades of green with the rest of the army being in a complimentary red.

Now Brom hasnt turned slayer yet though, has he? Hes taken an oath, but he hasnt taken the slayer path, as it says in your fluff.

I wonder what army list are you going to use? Are you going to take the new book and count slayers as warriors and such? Or are you going to use the slayer list, in which case i dont think Brom and his longbeards are allowed in.

Whats the plan?

Burro Boskov

You are allowed one slayer unit per dragon slayer in the normal dwarf army. I will paint all my warrior units like Karak Kadrin (red), have many dragon slayers and slayer units, and one unit of longbeards painted in Karak Hirn Colors (green).

jeez, i dont read my rule bok the whole way through

Right, i see.

Good idea.

Burro

Brom Thorbinsson
Great Weapon

14 Warriors
Shield
Banner and Musician

10 Quarrlers
Shields

10 Slayers

Bolt Thrower
Engineer

Grand Total: 500

Better or worse? Rune of stone and warrior champ or engineer for the bolt thrower?

Id have to go with the engineer. It might be safer with the rune of stone, but i dont think youll be fighting many strength 6 enemies, so the armour is fine. and if you are, you could just shoot them.

I still think it looks good. This a warband list? or Border patrol or normal?

Burro Boskov

warband

In that case, i would split the unit of crossbow dwarves into 2. This allows you to not have one long line of ten. I also like it, because you theroetically have two flanking units, to back up your main.

I use a near identical list, giving the warriors GW, dropping the thane and using miners with full command instead of slayers. It has served me well.

Burro Boskov

If I make the units smaller, Wont they be more prone to panic?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

*wipes tear from eye*

We are dwarves by the way.

Its not that big a threat. IMHO anyway.

But dont let them get charged. That would be very bad.

Burro Boskov

As Burro said, panic isn't the kind of thing that cause much trouble when you're a Dwarf. You have the most disciplined army in all of Warhammer, except Undead and Daemons...

Anyway, even if one unit of five Quarrellers does flee (an unlikely possibility), it probably won't be so bad, even in a small game.

its 60 points, a whole 30 goblins, for 5 quarrelers.

Id set them up like this.

Q S BT WB Q

WB is the warriors with Brom, everything else is clear enough.

Burro Boskov

Hrumph. Actually sixty points is now a whole 20 goblins, what with the advent of 7th.

What does a Thane come with? Gromril armour?

In the latest list he comes with Gromril Armor and Great Weapon.

By the by should I be worried about the lack of magical attacks?

I wouldnt be, but if you want to play it safe, add the five point rune of flaming or whatever. Finding the points may be tricky though. I seriously wouldnt be worried though.

And Thragka, they come set with Gromril Armour and Hand weapon.

Burro Boskov

Right, thanks.

Personally I'd rather use the rune that gives +1 Initiative. Dwarves can always use some extra hitting speed.

In 7th Ed, can great weapons have runes?

Master Rune of Kragg the Grim allows Great Weapons to recieve other runes.

I forgot you were using a great weapon. If you want the magic attacks, drop it for hand weapon with initiative rune. That would work for the attacks, but then he loses his *punch*.

Burro

UPDATE:

1000 point list

Heros:

Brom Thorbinsson
Runic Weapon: Rune of Cleaving
Runic Armor: Rune of Stone
Shield

Dragon Slayer

Core:

25 Warriors
Shields
Full Command

19 Longbeards
Shields
Full Command

10 Quarrelers
Shields

Special:

Bolt Thrower
Engineer

Bolt Thrower
Engineer
Rune of Fire

10 Slayers

Grand Total: 1000
Total Dwarfs (Wounds): 74 (76)
Total Dispel Dice: 4

I could drop the Dragon Slayer for Engineering runes on the Bolt Thrower (Rune of Penetrating on Each). What do you all think?

That's what I'd do.

But that's just the opinion of someone who has never played Dwarves, so... -_-

I would keep the dragon slayer.

Ive been using it recently, and its just so much fun to play with. King Tut is hating it. Although he does die easily, give him a MR of swiftness, and he always attacks first. just kill the models around him, and you cant get hit back.

Burro Boskov

The Wimp!
Dragonslayers are very fun to play with in Burro's opinion because of the annoyance factor and the high T. And it gives hitting power at a relativly cheap cost. Stick em in a warrior unit and the opponent will think. Hmm No armour easy hero kill or they will ignore him and get killed by him. its also great to kit him out with a rune of swiftness and challenge your enimies hero but im sure burro could tell you more then i can.

Small comment that Slayer Characters may only be put in a Slayer unit or go it alone.

Well he had him in a slayer unit. I dont have the dwarf book so i dont know. Sorry for any false hopes. Okay so stick him in a slayer unit then or alone. :)