I there you guys, i just can't remember the last time i posted here, btu came back from the shadows. Last weekend i played a game versus a friend that wanted to try is new army. He's now playing Chas Undivided, and wanted a try.

Well my army was:
Tyrant - Tenderiser, Wyrdstone Necklace, Longstrider
Butcher - Bangstick, Dispel Scroll
Butcher - Dispel Scroll
Butcher - Dispel Scroll
3 x Bulls - Light Armour, Ironfist, Musician
3 x Ironguts - Musician
3 x Ironguts - Musician
3 x Ironguts - Musician, Standard Bearer, Lookout Gnoblar
3 x Ironguts - Musician, Standard Bearer, Lookout Gnoblar
3 x Yhettes
3 x Yhettes

Probably you know the army, it came 3rd in uk gt this year. I used to play a very similar one but different, and when i saw this i changed to became the same to see how it goes. In this game it did well, the first i played with it.

Is army was:
Daemon Prince (with a sowrd i don't remember)
2 x sorcerers one of them mounted
20 x chosen warriors - musician, standard bearer
6 x chosen knights
4x knights
beast herd
giant
furies
chariot

Well he got first turn and walked with everything forward. His magic did nothing i can recall so his turn ended. My turn i walked my bulls right in front of his line and got my ironguts in position to not be charged but if he charged i would flee and counter charge. Ons unit of yhettes enters a wood and the others position so they get a flank charge over the warriors. My magic saw little too this turn.

Second turn he charges with he's chosen knights my bulls and i flee, charges he's other knights my ironguts and i flee and he's chariot into my ironguts woth general inside and i stay. His chariot does 3 impact hits and only scores 1 wound, my general hits with tenderiser and crushes the chariot. His magic did nothing once again ans his turn ended. In my turn i charge my ironguts with butcher into his chosen knights, my ironguts with general into his warriors, my yhettes into his warriors flank, another ironguts with butcher into his 4 knights and walk with the other yhettes into the forest limit (trying to protect my flank). The bulls stopped such as my irongut with butcher unit that was fleeing. He stayed with the chosen knights and with the warriors but the 4 knights unit fled. My magic saw 2 of these knight fall and turned my bulls stubborn and +1 toughness. Combat saw 2 chosen knights fall and 3 wounds back. I lost combat but stayed. In the warriors combat i destroyed the unit and overrunned with the yhettes into the knights flank. My generals unit hold.

Third turn was a bit more complicated (bad luck started). He positioned his furies into my back looking at the rear of my ironguts and his daemon prince charged my bulls that chose to hold. He stopped his fleeing knights and walked with his giant at my ironguts fighting chosen knights (as i suspected). Well combat saw my butcher doing nothing and 15 attacks doing only one wound. He killed another irongut and managed 1 wound on the yhettes. I held once again. My bulls lost combat by one and fled. He hold his daemon prince. My turn i tried to charge his giant but failed fear test and the rest was already in combat. Couldn't charge anything but rallied my bulls.

Forth turn he charged with his furies and daeon prince in the back of my ironguts. He now won combat and chose to pursue my yhettes with his knights that failed to catch them and my remaining irongut and butcher with his daemon prince and furies that were caught. His furies got into combat with my bulls. His magic killed one yhette and the unit fled. My turn saw my General with his ironguts charge the rear of his chosen knights, one irongut unit with butcher charge his 2 knights that were left in the second unit and my other irongut with butcher help out my bulls against his furies. My yhettes rallied. The second unit of yhettes didnt's rallied and kept running. In combat i broke both his units of knights, and his furies.

Fifth turn he charged once again my bulls with his daemon prince and i held, and managed to get his giant fighting my ironguts with butcher. Combat saw my bulls lose combat and get caught in pursuit and his giant did his attack and combat ended with me losing by 2. I passed leadership. In my turn i positioned my tyrant to charge the giant, the ironguts to protect the general from a herd charge and the yhettes protecting the ironguts from the herd to.

Sixth turn saw the herd flanking my ironguts wich held and his daemon doing nothing. I inflicted 3 wounds on the giant that held and lost combat against the herd but held. My turn saw my tyrant killing the giant and the yhettes helping the ironguts but doing nothing (another bad luck) so lost combat. The yhettes held but the ironguts fled (another bad luck). The yhettes fleeing kept fleeing to (another bad luck)...

Well at the end i think i was superior to my opponent, but all those bad lucks got me a tie in my favour. It's a tie with a flavour to major win...

Hope you enjoyed it.

My regards to all Generals!!!

Are you sure your opponent's army was legal?

I don't play Chaos, but I'm not sure if mortal armies are allowed to have a daemonic general. Correct me if I'm wrong, someone...

where can you get GT army lists?

@ztech: there is a particular daemonic gift, Master of Mortals, which makes the daemon count as a mortal for the purposes of choosing an army. There's a similar one to make it count as a beast, which is Unliving Idol, if I recall correctly.

It might still be illegal, though - can you have a unit of only four knights?

Yes, you can :).

@ztech: i guess that you are right, i didn't check that so i don't know if he had the gift that allows it to be the gerenal.

@KingTut: i don't know where you can find them. I know his list because he posted it in a forum, so it's just he's to kind.

@Thragka: yes you can, it get me confused to, but it's legal.

And how about the game itself? No comments at all?

My regards to all Generals!!!

i was in a rush back then and could not fully appreciate the report. I think you did well considering all the bad rolls you made. Though the impact hits of the chariot were interesting you were quite lucky how they only did one wound or was he targeting your general? I think how you chose to hold with the bulls was a tad bit ambitious its a deamon prince (a name supposed to strike horror into newbie gamers everywhere) And aren't bulls your core of core unit as OK? I have never played chaos or OK but i have a idea of what happens in the army. The magic on your part was very well done But getting the butcher into combat might not have been a great idea. Chaos armies have no shooting so i would have him outside a unit unless he is tanked up with magic items and such. Giants are just plain nasty because of their unpredicability i play Tomb Kings and my Brother is Orcs and Goblins and he either totally obliterates me or is killed by me. In my experience if you can get the charge on a giant it makes all the difference. I dont know how realistic this is with OK but in theory thats my 2 bits. Deamon princes i would try to ignore unless they are flying, but failing that hit them with everything that sucker must a been a bucket load of points. which means Leadbeachers to me or Manslaughters or what ever your heavy CC unit is (please tell me its not bulls :) ) You did good to take the knights out fairly early in the game they are Nasty (note the capital "n").
All in all
Great battle report

Impact hits are allocated to unit always, you can't alocate them to main characters (unless i'm mistaken). But ya, he was hitting the unit, rolled 2 so 3 impact hits and only hit 1, so 1 wound. He could even kill one ogre, but the strenght 7 hit was something that he couldn't run from... LOL.

As for the bulls, ya the daemon prince was flying so they would get killed anyway! So to die i prefer them to die in combat, and like this i kept his daemon entertained for 2 turns and doing nothing elsewhere!

As for the charge on thegiant, that's what i wanted but failed fear test... crap! and he was out of charge range but he cast unseen lurk with irresistible force on him, so couldn't do anything... He died, so all ended ok there.

If it weren't for the bad luck i have (always), i would've been victorious... But the gut god wasn't with me this day... :D

Four knights? Only four? Why? That's rather strange ...

I've never played OK either, with or against, so I don't have too much to say. But to KingTut, a butcher in combat lasts longer than other kinds of wizard in combat, because it's got Ogre characteristics. Toughness 5 with four wounds is much better than toughness 3 with two wounds, and it can do, I think, three strength 4 attacks. So they give other Ogre units a bit of a punch.

How long have you been playing OK, Borgh?

Maybe to save points or that he had a character in there I would guess :) .

Yeah, but I meant why is there an option to have four when most other cavalry units are 5+.

I have no idea, maybe because they are so expensive?

That's also my opinion. Chaos Knights are indeed pretty expensive, and it's only fair to allow them to go in units of four. Similarly, Grail Knights can be fielded in units of three, because the basic unit of five would already cost 190 points without even a command group.

And yet Cold One Riders are 5+, despite being two points more expensive than Chaos Knights.

Trying to look for reason in the workings of the Design Studio is like looking for a needle in a haystack. It takes forever, and when you find it, it stabs you in the thumb.

I reacted on this, you know that furies cant be broken, right? They take an instability test instead :).

Well i've been playing ogre kingdoms since they came out, but i've quite stop playing cause i've been taking a pos graduation so not much time to play. As for the butchers, ya they are pretty tough to be in combat and they cause an extra impact hit inside the unit.

As for the "broke" part, i really mean destroyed. I just killed all units in combat! Was a mistake.

As for the knights, i didn't know that they coild be fielded in units of 4 either. I think that it should be illegal... If no one can, then they shuouldn't be able also.

My regards to all Generals!!!

Well this saturday i went to a tourney with this list and it did quite well. I got third in the table with this list, and that was an achievement for me.

First game was against a lizzardmen player. He had:
Slan
2 x priests
2 x 20 saurus marked
5 Saurus on Cold Ones (didn't test for stupidity the all game)
1 salamander
3 kroxigors
the remaining wer skinks.

After a very swety game e lots of ogres dying in the way because of shooting and magic, when i get there my ogres did pretty well, they killed all where they hitted. I forgot the RIP's in my ogre units which i regreted in 2 of my games. In this one i lost 2 units of ironguts because of that. :angry:
But that's the game and in the end it turned in a major victory for me, so not bad for the first game.

The second game was against dwarfs and their anvil. He had:
Runelord with anvil
BSB with Oathstone
20 warriors
14 thunderers
14 quarrelers
17 ironbreakers (or something like this)
2 bolt throwers
2 organ guns
cannon

The game was much alike the past one and the game went much alike the past game too. The only problem was this guy rolling dices. He rolled so good that in a turn of shooting all of you can see in his list, he only missed 4 dices. Meanwhile my ogres managed to get where they wanted, and once again when they got there they smashed it all. Result, major for me again.

The third game, for my surprise, i was dwelling for the first place of the tourney. Here things looked much uglier than in all other games. I've already seen what his list was capable of, but it revealed unuseful trying to do something. He had:
Lord in a dragon with staff of change (i guess that's the name)
wizard
3 units of chaos knights of tzeentch, one of them chosen
5 furies
4 screamers
1 beast herd

There's not much to say. He was superior in all fases revealing a very versatile and mobile army. Result was a major for him. It was a nice but frustating game cause i was unable to react to his army.

Well the guy that was third massacred his opponent and went to second. I got third.

My first tournament in one and a half year so i am pleased with the result.

My regards to all Generals!!!