What happens when you have the sprites that say that in a challenge the opponent needs 6's to hit and the silver lance of the blessed which autohits?
Does the Bretonian lord autohits, or does he need to roll for hit?

Interesting. I personally would say, not just because I play wood elves, that he would hit on 6s.

Reason being, the autohit is instead of rolling to hit against weapon skill. If it was an item like the High Elf golden shield that gives -1 to hit, he'd still autohit. Annoyance, however, says that the foe always hits on 6s. Specifically 6s, not just a to hit modifier.

Though, unless there is any wording otherwise in the silver lance entry, I'd say you should probably just roll a d6 for it each combat phase.

Would the same probably apply in a situation of Annoyance of Netlings vs. Sword of Righteous Steel (hits on 2's)?

In the case of the Silver Lance (and other autohit weapons), the Annoyance is cancelled out, due to the fact that you hit automatically, no dice roll is required. Since no dice are rolled, you cannot roll 6s to hit, hence no effect.

In the case of the Sword of Righteous Steel, because a dice roll is required, there is an argument to be made for both sides. I would tend to side with the Annoyance in this case, but it would be best to find a mutual answer with your opponent (or roll to see which rule trumps).

In the same train of thought, you could say that you have to roll a dice to hit because the annoyance of netlings says that you are always hit on 6s. That's the only way to hit him, to roll a 6.

Just roll a d6, or ignore both effects.

There is no official ruling for these (rare) situations when two magic items or rules contradict eachother. In the example brought up here I'd agree with Luc and say that the Lance still hits automatically, because no to-hit roll is needed.

In other cases (e.g. always hits on 2+ vs. needs 6's to hit) its harder. Some people would argue that the wording always hits on 2+ would override the need 6's, due to the word "always". Others would roll a d6 to determine which item/rule overrides the other in that turn/combat phase. Or you simply ignore both rules and treat the effects as without modified by special rules. These are all not optimal solutions, but they are possibilities to solve the problem.

IIRC, the annoyance says 'is always hit on 6s' (during a challenge).

The always part is what makes me think the lance cannot just hit automatically

I agree with Luc, I think the lance still hits automatically since no dice is rolled.

And although it's off-topic, I also find that the Sprite in question is not expensive enough at only 25 points, considering the effects.

It's the classic Unstoppable Force versus Immovable Object scenario: both have to give way to the other, but both shouldn't have to give way to the other. Complete contradiction. Hence, roll a dice for it, it's the only way it'll work.

Cheers,
DLJ

The only reason it is that cheap, is due to the fact that it can only be used in challenges, where the silver lance can be used all the time... hence you have the point difference

Yeah, but even then, it's way too good. If your opponent knew that you had that (even though he's not supposed to know it), he'd never accept a duel against an Elf who has that Sprite.
And anyway, he should guess that he has it by the second the Elf challenges him. A Wood Elf fighting you in a duel seems so unnatural somehow. That's just not their style...

Bretonnians would say that they are dishonorable, even cowardly...

Bretonnians wouldn't live long enough to finish saying "you're cowardly" :P

I think one item is "hit on the lowest roll plus 1", the other is "hit on the highest +1". My verdict would be "screw it, lets just use the normal WS tables".

I once read that if someone always hits on *+ and he requires *'s to hit the enemy a dice is rolled each round to see which effect is cancelled (i think it was at WH chronicles somewhere,not sure though).As for the lance,i think it overrides the annoyance of netlings (no dice is rolled to hit-i aslo have WE,it's not that i benefit from my opinion). :thumb: