So, currently collecting thousand sons chaos space marines and joining a power armoured forum, I strayed into another forum, and ended up following this blog , and I got inspired damn it! I now want to collect a fairly heavily converted army. I wanted a good thing (not evil), but utterly obssessed with the emperor, purity seals, tattoos whatever, kind of like flagellants in empire.

I have been thinking of either witch hunters or daemonhunters, but also I do like the look of the steel legion.

Only problem is, all these are metal models (like every single model), which means a hell load of cash and they are much harder to convert, and in my eyes, to paint (which is very important to me). I want a specialist army like that guy's in the first link, not neccesarily that army, but almost completely models, or a different way of representing them. I also don't want a space marine army, I just plain don't like them. <_<

Well, if anyone thinks they have a solution, or thoughts, please say something.

Well it sounds to me like you want an imperial guard force led by inquisitors. converting and painting wise I'd use Cadians and load them up with purity seals etc. Gold black and red seem to be popular emperor colours, but don't make them look like traitors ;) .

good idea by the way, I'm looking forward to the results. :thumb:

Can you do that? If so, then I will definitely consider it, I really like the look of the witch hunters, so that may be a possibilty.

While I don't have any book, it appears that you can have shock troops (no doubt I'm having Kasrikin models) for witch hunter troops, is there a 1+ on a sisters of battle squad? I'm not too sure if I want to have them, but I wouldn't say no, they are good models.

Also, the arco-flagellants and sister repentia are the sorts of units I want in my army.

Also, anyone know where I can order seals by themselves, I always find a model which sells them separately but then forget it. -_-

ahhh omid, well the question is do you want a guard army with a few extra witch hunters included (such as an inquisitor and 2 squads of sisters) or a witch hunter army with a few extra guard (such as some shock troops and a few sentinels) ?

remember any imperial force (marines, guard, daemonhunters, witch hunters etc) can include some inquisition, for example my catatchan force will include (when it's completed) and inquisitor lord and retinue, fluff wise i will justify it by saying he is there to make sure no herresy occurs on the planet. why dont you try that a guard force with some inquisition in it. you could do it very well if you paint it good.

also if you do decide to convert some guard then remember that with any conversion, the best conversion is the one thats least converted. you could get away with a "pure army" as it seems you want by painting them all in fairly bright colours.

good luck ^_^

I think I would prefer a witch hunter army with a few imperial gaurd. :D But the thing is I want this army to be totally unique, so I need to find a way to convert my models somehow, or have a trademark on them (I was thinking candles but I can't seem to find a model part available to order individually -_- ) I suppose i should just buy the witch hunters bok so I can get a feel of the army, the start to develop some ideas.....

i'd take a guard army that are being helped (or investigated) by witch hunters and while this is going on, a Chaos/Dark Eldar/Ork army invades the planet.
The scheme..erm why not make them look Slanneshi (pink and black) as that would be unique and would allow some controversy in the Empoere's eyes. Just my thoughts...

--Joe

I think I'm going to field a slightly different army to that, more, the city militia (guard) are helping the witch hunters to purge the galxy etc. But I am quite tempted to take an all witch hunters army rather than using allies as the minituares look awesome, but it will cost more of my precious cash.

One thing I am having a problem with your plan is the slaanesh ork thing going on, either that or I mixed two ideas I shouldn't have :rolleyes: , probably the latter.

Unfortunately the slaanesh sister has been done many a time before, and I was preferably looking for fantical, but loyal warriors. -_- Nice idea though. :)

probably the latter....you got it. :P When did i say anyhting about a Slanneshi OrK?

Omid wouldnt an all witch hunters force cost the same as a mixed one as 10 sisters is 110pts basic while 20 guard are 120pts, okay ten points but hey, im not trying to persuade you either way just letting you know. the bonus of course with Witch Hunters is they are all metal, for some this may be a problem but for many it allows better detail= better finished paint jobs ^_^

yeah that whole Slannesh scheme looks a little bit leaning towards the chaos powers, remember Witch Hunters are mysterious, not evil. still it would look kinda ok if you got it right.

as Joe said, slannesh ork? :blink:

Dan

I was reffering to money, but thanks for letting me know, I should have been clearer on that. :mellow:

I personally find metal models a pain, they aren't too much of a hassle, but it's the filing, super gluing of the hands, undercoating (I tend to spray metal models twice for a nicer finish), and how easily the paint gets chipped off. Actually, while the subject is up, what is 'sealing' a minituare?

*sighs* It was originally a joke ( that only someone of my superior intelect could understand :lol: ), I thought that these two paragraphs:

could be blended into two, I.E. slaanesh chaos marines, slaanesh DE and slaanesh orks.

metal models may be a pain but without being rude thats why you look after them and try not to drop them, but you do get the ineveitable mishap. sealing is spraying (or painting) the model with ardcoat paint, but do not do it very heavily else all the detail may go, this has the effect of "sealing" the metal down and stopping chipping. you just have to spray lightly otherwise the model turns out to look dusty ^_^ .

now i get the joke B)

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What reply? ;)

Anyway, I have purchased the book, and have a few problems:

1. Who are the iron hands? They appear to be troops but I have no clue what/ who they are.

2. I really like the inquisitor theme, the fact that the dude has all these little things following him around, but having an inquisitor practically depletes any possible faith points you could get from a "nuns with guns" army as there would be no more than 1 HQ that I would use. I'm not too sure what to do, It appears that I may have to ponder...... :huh: .

3. Due to the fact that for some reason WHs hate lascannons, there are barely anti tank wepons out there for me to use. Any ideas how to counter attack this?

Iron Hands are a Chapter of Space Marines, If am not mistaken.

With the use of Faith points you can also use a Sister Superior as they generate alot of Faith points and ignore the Inquistors but that also makes it alot harder to have Inquistion troops.

Heavy Weapons, You have a Exorist Launcher which is if not unrelieable but it can also be quite Destructive or how about including some weapon teams and have the Imperial guard as a Allied troop?

i wouold think about whether you want a sister or a inquisitor, personally i would recomend a Inquisitor myself (probally as im getting one for my catachans but still) as they look cooler IMO, but if you want more faith points get a cannoness. cant you have both mind? and if needed make the inquisitor just a basic inquisitor not a lord (only if you have to as the extra points are well worth it IMO) with a tiny retinue of 3 or some, or no retinue at all, it's up to you really man.

but whatever you do think hard as theres nothing worse than buying somethiing you dont want anymore ^_^ , why did i buy those chaos..........

Sorry, I meant the ermmmm, *looks in book* Armoured fist squad (well, you can see where I got the 'iron hands' from right?), there are too many hands and/or metals involved in armies nowadays. ^_^ Sorry for any trouble I caused :rolleyes: .

Well, as to farsight's reply, I am thinking over which army to play, I really can't decide but i am swaying towards an inquisitorial guard force, either steel legion (There's another one!) or just some random guard army using the cadian models. the thing about that is the fact that I don't know any of the guard rules, and then I would need to buy the book, delaying any model buying. but I will post up some lists in the emperiom blah blah section (I never really picked up on the space marine terms), with two lists, one sisters, one witch hunters. That's all for now.

EDIT: Oh, for dark lord joe, I finally found a link for a slaanesh sister's force, here it be. ;)

well it's up to you man, i would recomend some kind of ordo force (demon-hunters, witch-hunters, alien-hunters when they arrive) also found out recently, which i kinda forgot, you can combine witch hunters with daemon hunters if you want for the combat smashing of grey knights with the crazy machines of the witch hunters, or a witch-hunters inquisitor leading a daemonhunter force, now that would be "pure" ^_^

still guard and hunters is a good way to go but up to you bud.....

one thing i would say is that from my own experiance of seeing them play i wouldnt recomend the steel legion, i mean they're ok just a bit overkill is all, still nice. also they cost a bomb, you need to buy many a chimera and ten man steel legion unit for £18 i believe :blink: they're only 100pts a unit odd.

Dan

EDIT: ive looked at the link you gave, i know it's for Joe bue hey :P , those guard and sister look sweet, especially the weapon teams and the airmobile army, how nice are they :D

Well, I picked up (and bought) the guard codex and I am finding my way through it. I'm a little confused by the infantry platoon rules, but I think I'll cope. :)

Guard are not a definite force, I'm considering sort of doing small armies for allies and using the witch hunters force. E.G. I'll get a guard and daemonhunter ally force to go with the witch hunter force and probably get the alien hunter force as well, I say this but the chances are slim I have such a long attention span to cope with this. :blink:

(Psst, farsight, do you have any links on these 'alien hunters' that you speak of? I have heard of them, but have yet to hear any more than their name)

well so that you know the platoon things works like this: for a troops choice you have an infantry platoon, thi consists of i belive 2-5 troop units (standard guard infantry, you can take 2 units minimum)) a heavy weapon unit (0-1) and a command unit (not the HQ), i believe this is correct but i havent got the codex with me at the moment but im fairly sure it's correct.

so this therefore means you need for your basic two troop choices, you need 2 command units, and 4 infantry squads (they already come as 10 men in a unit) so basically you will be likely to have a whole lot of men then you need you HQ which is a command squad. aslo too my knowledge consrcipts, ratlings, ogryms etc. count as one choice by themselves.

i only recently found this out as i needed to ask someone as they don't explain it very well in the codex itself.

also so that you know with daemonhunters and witchhunters they can only take one ally force with them, by this i mean you cannot have guard, withchunters, and daemonhunters together.

all i have heard of is rumours TBH, i dont have any links at the moment i can give you, as soon as i do you will be the first i will inform. still if they are as good models as the witch and daemonhunters i think they will have done well ^_^

Dan