so here it is:

Von Carstien Vampire count
Hand Weapon, Level l Wizard, Blood drinker (Magical wepon, upgraded to level 2 wizard
346pts

Von Carstien Vampire Thrall
Hand wepon, Batle-standard Bearer,
105pts

Von Carstien Wraith
2-Handed scyth (Great wepon)
90pts

20 Sylvanian Militia
Standard, Musician
215pts

20 Sylvanian Militia
Standard, Musician
215pts

20 Sylvanian Levy
Standard, Musician
175pts

20 Sylvanian Levy
Standard, Musician
175pts

2 Bat Swarms
120pts

17 Grave Guard
Crypt Keeper, musician, standard
234pts

3 Von Carstien Fell Bats
60 pts

Von Carstien Black Caoch
175pts

Banshee
90pts

2000pts



What do you think?
What do you think what should i spend the remaining points on?

Please try to read and understand the rules a bit better first, don't be afraid to ask more experienced hobbyists/players around you for help if you're confused, maybe at your local club or store.

1. You have to decide if you want to play a normal VC list, using the von Carstein bloodline for your vampires, or if you want to play the Sylvanian list. Ghouls are not available in the Sylvanian list, and Coaches are not 175pts. Miitia and Levy are not available in the normal list.

2. Weapons don't work that way. Either you take a mundane weapon, like an extra hand weapon or a great weapon or you stick with the default hand weapon, or you take a magical weapon from the list provided. They cannot be combined in ANY way. The only exception I know of is Borgut Facebeater, and where there are exceptions to this rule they will state very clearly that it is so.

Hope this helped.

this is where i got the rules http://uk.games-workshop.com/vampirecounts...of-sylvania.pdf
army-of-sylvania.pdf (application/pdf Object)

and the black coach is 175pts READ the link above

Go and read the rulebook carefully. Buy a copy of an army book, or borrow one, and find out for yourself that a Coach normally costs 200pts, amongst other things.

And while you're at it read the pdf file carefully yourself.

There are NO Ghouls in Sylvania.

i have sorted out the ghouls i made a mistake on those but the VON CARSTEIN BLACK COACH does cost 175pts the normal ones cost 200pts

As I said from the beginning. Yes, good that you realize that now.

After cleaning it up, your list is now legal. :thumb:

Thank's :thumb:

Let me see what I may suggest...

Well it seems to me to do 1 thing...... drop a bat swarm, replace it with 3-4 fell bats as they are quite tough and hunt down war machines and if u have the spare points probably a good i dea is to buff up your grave guard as 16 is a bit small but giving a few models can make a difference, apart from that seems good :thumb: (only did the :thumb: thing cause it seems to be the "Thing" for this topic)

King of Dumbass, i would check the storm of chaos book for the final list as that list is just a preview one and the list has been tweaked a bit. I only say this as it prevents an opponent from accusing you of cheating for using the out dated list

EDIT:

Whoops forgot this :thumb:

what do you mean ive been using an out of date list??? :thumb:

Actually, no. That IS the list. It hasn't changed at all. Murmandus, maybe you'd like to clear this up here? What do you think has been altered?

I could offer advice on the list, but everything I have to say is to be found elsewhere on this board, and besides, my first piece of advice is always "try and see", because seriously, there are some things you cannot learn without learning the hard way. And besides, some things may work for you and not others because of your style, or because of the matchups you encounter in your own group.

So unless you want a bog-standard cookie-cutter list, I won't comment further on that...

Oh, and um... oh well. :thumb:

Have fun all.

oh.. and ill like to say 'THE THING OF THE TOPIC IS.................. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: '

:D