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Title: 2000-pts Red Crusade list
Description: My corrected and improved army list.


@ztech - July 16, 2005 02:03 PM (GMT)
THE RED CRUSADE


Count Robert of Bastonne (paladin)
Questing Vow (8)
Great Weapon (4)
Barded warhorse (14)
Gromril Great Helm (30)
Enchanted Shield (10)
Gauntlet of the Duel (10)
(136)

Baron Xavier of Aquitaine (BSB)
Knight's Vow
Barded warhorse (14)
Virtue of Noble Disdain (20)
Banner of Chalons (10)
(104)

The Green Knight
(275)

Lady Allariàn (damsel)
Level 2 (35)
Barded warhorse (14)
Dispel Scroll (25)
Power Stone (25)
(169)

Lady Caroline (damsel)
Level 2 (35)
Chalice (20)
Dispel Scroll (25)
(150)


Order of Honor
8 Knights of the Realm (joined by the Count Robert)
Full Command (24)
Tapestry of the Conqueror (25)
(241)

Order of Bravery
8 Knights of the Realm (joined by the Baron Xavier)
Champion, Musician (8)
(200)

Brothers of the Halberd
16 Men-at-Arms
Full Command (27)
(107)

Brothers of the Bow
15 skirmishing Archers
Full Command (20)
(125)


Order of Courage
6 Pegasus Knights
Full Command (30)
(360)


The Mountainbreaker
Trebuchet + yeoman craftsman
(100)


TOTAL: 1967 pts







My army doesn't fear shooting! The Order of Bravery won't flee because of the Baron Xavier's Virtue of Noble Disdain and won't be shot at when charging, thanks to the Banner of Chalons. And my strategy with the Order of Honor is to do the reverse of the "Look out Sir" rule: my general receives all the shooting... against which he has Toughness 4 and a 0+ re-rollable armor save!
Both the Order of Courage and the Green Knight will be in enemy territory in no time, enabling them to strike at the core of the threat during the second or third turn. Meanwhile, my skirmishing archers and the almighty Trebuchet will shoot the enemy's main units. Therefore, the opponent will already be weakened by the time my two units of Knights of the Realm reach the battle. Their charge should crush what is left of the adversary.
I truly don't know what do to with the Men-at-Arms, but they could be a good decoy if the other player doesn't know how crappy they are. If my knights are stuck in a long melee that lasts two or three turns, I will send my militia on the flanks of the enemy to add numbers and rank bonus. They might even be able to kill someone.
I spent a very high number of points on the characters, but they'll be efficient. While my BSB will stop the Order of Bravery from fleeing when shot, my general will be a good duelist with the Gauntlet and his great weapon. Both my damsels are Level 2 and equipped with Dispel Scrolls, which means they will bring a good defense vs. enemy magic.




If you want to know more about my army's background, go to the section "Battle Reports, Articles and Stories", where I'm currently writing the history of the Red Crusade. The first part is already finished, and you can read it here.

Luc_Arkhame - July 19, 2005 03:22 AM (GMT)
I would note that it is redundant to have the enchanted shield and the gromril great helm on the same character, since 1+ is the best armour save possible, the enchanted shield accomplishes nothing.

Also, if you cut the Pegasi Knights in half, and dropped the useless standard bearer off of the bowmen, you could include a small shock force of Grail or Questing Knights which would be able to use the mounted damsel's magic resist bonus to compensate for their smaller number, but much higher danger to the enemy. This may work better for you, since six Pegasi is a little unwieldy.

the king of dumbass - July 28, 2005 06:18 PM (GMT)
the trbuchet costs 90 pts (unless you've put a yeoman crafstman in)

@ztech - September 4, 2005 02:34 PM (GMT)
ANOTHER RED CRUSADE LIST


Gotrek and Felix
(455)

Baron Xavier of Aquitaine
BSB
Questing Vow (8)
Barded warhorse (14)
Virtue of Noble Disdain (20)
Gromril Great Helm (30)
(132)

Lady Allariàn (damsel)
Level 2 (35)
Barded warhorse (14)
Dispel Scroll X2 (50)
(169)

Lady Caroline (damsel)
Level 2 (35)
Chalice (20)
Dispel Scroll (25)
(150)


Order of Honor
8 Knights of the Realm (joined by the Lady Allariàn)
Full Command (24)
Tapestry of the Conqueror (25)
(241)

Order of Bravery
8 Knights of the Realm (joined by the Baron Xavier)
Champion, Musician (8)
(200)

Brothers of the Halberd
16 Men-at-Arms
(80)

Brothers of the Bow
15 skirmishing Archers
Champion, Musician (10)
(115)


Order of Courage
6 Pegasus Knights
Full Command (30)
(360)


The Mountainbreaker
Trebuchet + yeoman craftsman
(100)


TOTAL: 2002 pts




In this one, I replaced the Count Robert and the Green Knight by Gotrek and Felix, who can be taken by Bretonnia as a Rare choice. Gotrek being the general, he gives an impressive Ld of 10 to all troops nearby, which is useful. Lady Allariàn will join an unit of knights to give them her Magic Resistance. As I use damsels for defense only, I think I'll put Allariàn in the middle of the regiment to protect her, even though she won't be able to cast magic missiles. As long as she can dispell, it's alright.

I'll have to change the army's fluff a little to explain the fact that Gotrek and Felix have joined it but that Robert isn't in it anymore. Let's say that the Count has been captured by enemy forces and that Gotrek and Felix have been hired by the Baron Xavier to help rescuing him.


I have a question: if an unit of knights is within 12'' of Gotrek and therefore has 10 Ld, does an unit of peasants situated within 6'' of the knights (but out of the general's Ld range) also have this modified Ld thanks to the Peasant's Duty rule?

hbegg - September 13, 2005 12:17 PM (GMT)
Can gotrek be the general? Is he a 'character' as such. Can dogs of war lead the army?

Is the 2nd level on both the dmasels really worth if (for scroll caddies)?

Gotrek and felix are movement 3!!! do you want your force moving slower that normal people in order go gain his LD? Will you get within 6 then charge? because if you charge the knights out 16 and leave G&F their LD will be useless during combat (for the 1st round anyways)




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