How Relyible is the Hell Blaster Volly Gun and how good is it ? Is it worth still using?Please help me. I was given 2 of them and I don't know whether to use them both.

well one of them is very cool, if a bit unreliable. You can take out whole regiments with the thing. I personally take one whenever I can. I wouldn't take two though, perhaps you could convert the Old Reliable variation on a steam tank if you don't want 2.

my friend ALWAYS takes 1 in his empire army (even in border patrol!), and i find this:
you have a 1/6 chance of a misfire on each dice, this translates into and 3/18 chance OF A MISFIRE (not even an explosion yet!) per shooting phase. I dont know about you but i like those odds.
so lets say you roll: 8,6, MISFIRE - now you have only a 1/6 chance of blowing up. I dont know about you but i like THOSE odds (put together).

Ok, lets say you beat the hell out of probability and you blow up. How does my friend counter-act this? He takes a wizard next game and takes second sign of amul (the one that allows re-rolls) because you can always get it (grrr). Well, hes done that ever since, and ive only seen his helblaster blow up once out of about 6 games (and that was when he didnt take a wizard)

And dont even get me started about master engineer. [mutters about a pain in the ass and shuffles off] :thumb:

Your math is way off. 3/18 is the exact same as 1/6, which doesn't factor in the multiple shots. You actually have about a 42% chance of mifiring per phase, of which 5/6 are bad. Therefore, you have a 35% chance of a negative misfire per shooting phase.

Is your friend using Second Sign to re-roll the artillery dice or his roll on the Misfire table? You're not allowed to do the former, Second Sign can only re-roll d6 i.e. six-sided dice labelled 1 to 6. That's the impression I got from your post, anyway.

Cheers,
DLJ

first of all, sorry about the maths. I just meant that u had a 1 out of 6 chance of misfiring
and my friend doesnt use the second sign on the artillary, he uses it on the misfire chart.

let´s face it, it´s gona blow up but when it does work it´s awesome. can scare the enemy away without firing a shot. go for it I´ll say. better safe than sorry doesn´t apply here :lol:

Icepick, I get the impression what your friend is using his engineer to fix his volley gun, this is not legal. Anyway I agree on the topic, a helblaster is worth taking, perhaps take 2 in a 3000 points battle.

I'd say use them both, haha. Their like assault rifles from the future and brought back in time to be used.

I'm not a empire player but doesn't the helblaster have a 1/3 chance of blowing up when misfireing? :mellow:

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The Helblaster has a 1/6 chance of misfiring on each artillery dice it rolls. Since the dice rolls are independent events, it has a 1/6+1/6+1/6=3/6=50% chance of misfiring when it fires, of which as Vriishnak said, 5/6 are bad, giving us 1/2x5/6=5/12 chance of getting a negative misfire.

Engineers arnt allowed to re-roll artillary dice on hellblasters?
Damn that monkey! ... I mean my friend...

Anyway, yeah, sorry about the maths again.
As i think someone said. It's devestating when it works (or gets a six on the misfire) but silly when it doesn't.

In answer to the question, take one, but don't have it as a massive fall back plan if all goes wrong, and remember to take some more back up artillary!

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