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Description: Hints and Tips for Debating.


Grand Master Eastwood - January 8, 2004 05:04 PM (GMT)
I felt that if this sub-forum was to gain a little more traffic (Which could be a good thing.), I should post a piece of advice I found on my regular haunt, Portent Forums.

These are not created by me, but Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert. So yeah, these aren't rules (As I have no authority to establish such things.) but merely what I felt are great pieces of advice when in a debate about anything, not just politics.

You are wrong because:

1. Amazingly Bad Analogy:
Example: You can train a dog to fetch a stick, therefore you can train a potato to dance

2. Faulty Cause and Effect:
Example: On the basis of my observations, wearing huge pants makes you fat.

3. I Am the World:
Example: I don't listen to country music. Therefore, country music isn't popular.

4. Ignoring Everything Science Knows About the Brain:
Example: People choose to be obese/gay/alcoholic because they prefer the lifestyle.

5. The Few Are The Same As The Whole:
Example: Some Elbonians are animal rights activists. Some Elbonians wear fur coats. Therefore, Elbonians are hypocrites.

6. Generalizing From Self:
Example: I'm a liar. Therefore, I don't believe what you're saying.

7. Argument By Bizarre Definition:
Example: He's not a criminal. He just does things that are against the law.

8. Total Logical Disconnect:
Example: I enjoy pasta because my house is made out of bricks.

9. Judging Things Without Comparison To Alternatives:
Example: I don't invest in U.S. Treasury Bills. There's too much risk.

10. Anything You Don't Understand Is Easy To Do:
Example: If you have the right tools, how hard can it be to generate nuclear fission at home?

11. Ignorance Of All Statistics:
Example: I'm putting all my money in the lottery this week because the jackpot is so big.

12. Ignoring the Downside Risk:
Example: I know that bungee jumping could kill me, but it's three seconds of great fun!

13. Substituting Famous Quotes For Common Sense:
Example: Remember, "All things come to those who wait." So don't bother looking for a job.

14. Irrelevant Comparisons:
Example: A hundred dollars is a good price for a toaster, compared to buying a Ferrari.

15. Circular Reasoning:
Example: I'm correct because I'm smarter than you. And I must be smarter than you because I'm correct.

16. Incompleteness As Proof Of Defect:
Example: Your theory of gravity doesn't explain why there are no unicorns, therefore it must be wrong.

17. Ignoring the Advice of Experts Without a Good Reason:
Example: Sure, the experts think you shouldn't ride your bicycle into the eye of a hurricane, but I have my own theory.

18. Following the Advice of Known Idiots:
Example: Uncle Billy says pork makes you smarter. That's good enough for me.

19. Reaching Bizarre Conclusions Without Any Information:
Example: The car won't start. I'm certain the spark plugs have been stolen by rogue clowns.

20. Faulty Pattern Recognition:
Example: His last six wives were murdered mysteriously. I hope to be wife number seven.

21. Failure to Recognize What's Important:
Example: My house is on fire! Quick, call the post office and tell them to hold my mail!

22. Unclear on the Concept of Sunk Costs:
Example: We've spent millions in developing a water-powered pogo-stick. We can't stop investing now, or it will all be wasted!

23. Overapplication of Occam's Razor(which states that the simplest explanation is usually right):
Example: The simplest explanation for the moon landings is that they were hoaxes.

24. Ignoring All Anecdotal Evidence:
Example: I always get hives after eating strawberries. But without a scientifically controlled experiment, it's not reliable data. So I continue to eat strawberries everyday, since I can't tell that they cause hives.

25. Inability to Understand that Some Things Have Multiple Causes:
Example: The Beatles were popular for only one reason: They were good singers.

- Harold Q. Eastwood, Rogue Clown.

Max - January 8, 2004 05:23 PM (GMT)
ok bud, ill be honest..i did NOT get a WORD of that :o

Ad-Man - January 8, 2004 05:31 PM (GMT)
I love Dilbert, and so many of those are true.

CyberZ74 - January 8, 2004 05:56 PM (GMT)
...XD

Thank you for delivering this quite amusing article, oh almighty Eastwood. *bow bow worship worship*

Background Bailey - January 8, 2004 08:06 PM (GMT)
I love Dilbert and Scott Adam's stuff...thanks for the laugh, Eastwood.

Drake - January 8, 2004 08:19 PM (GMT)
Eh...not bad

Yet Country Music does suck

*singing* It's no longer Red Neck, it's Country Music Star!!!

Quote Family Guy

Trig - January 9, 2004 05:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (CyberZ74 @ Jan 8 2004, 09:56 AM)
...XD

Thank you for delivering this quite amusing article, oh almighty Eastwood. *bow bow worship worship*

What he said.

Creepy - January 20, 2004 03:03 PM (GMT)
EDIT: Oops, dead topic. Sorry! *Bricks himself*

I like to use 8 all the time to confussle peoples. 23 only works well when the other person thinks I'm smarter than them though.

BobCat - May 4, 2004 12:00 AM (GMT)
You are right about these logical fallacies, therefore you are correct in all instances.

(Dig the irony, yo)

Geddoe - May 4, 2004 12:07 AM (GMT)
:lol: Funnyest thing ever.

Mewchu11 - May 4, 2004 12:11 AM (GMT)
>.> Guys this is some SERIOUSLY HUGE gravedigging... Nearly 4 months... PLEASE don't revive the dead topics... you have all the right to look at them but... *shrugs*

-Mewchu11

Master Shake - May 4, 2004 12:14 AM (GMT)
"Thread's dead, baby. Thread's dead."

Sorry, but SOMEONE had to say it. :)

Midnight~Fox - June 27, 2004 10:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Trig @ Jan 9 2004, 12:35 AM)
QUOTE (CyberZ74 @ Jan 8 2004, 09:56 AM)
...XD

Thank you for delivering this quite amusing article, oh almighty Eastwood. *bow bow worship worship*

What he said.

What they BOTH said Almighty Eastwood!!

Death Bringer - June 27, 2004 10:36 PM (GMT)
My god, Midnight, this thread's being grave dug after it was grave dug the first time and reburied!!! LET THE DANGED THING REST ALREADY!!! Someone LOCK this topic before it goes Nemesis style Grave Zombification on us!

matthewb - August 12, 2004 01:47 PM (GMT)
ive never heard of the warhammer forums

Ultimatum479 - November 4, 2004 11:10 PM (GMT)
HA!! NUMBER EIGHTEEN!! PROOF THAT NO ONE SHOULD LISTEN TO BUSH!!!

BTW, it's not grave-digging if it's stickied right? *fervently hopes not...*

PsyMar - November 30, 2005 12:08 AM (GMT)
This thread will not... rest... in... peace...

Creepy - December 1, 2005 10:56 PM (GMT)
Oh, COME ON. You even KNOW this is gravedigging. And it's been dead a YEAR now.




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