Title: More homophobic behavior.
Alastor Blackrose - July 4, 2007 03:58 AM (GMT)
First off. I would like to apologize for making so many topics here. I must look pretty sad to do it, but meh... Anyway.
I've really tried to move past this, but I can't. A few days ago while walking to a friend's, I was threatened by another teen to, "stop being such a faggot" or he would hurt me badly. I'm pretty open with my own sexuality, so naturally I'm teased by friends for being effeminate, which is FINE. I don't care if I'm teased at all. I think it's funny. But when people are stupid enough to threaten me over something so trivial, it really chills me, you know? I mean, I don't go around telling everyone that I like boys, but if they ask, I'll tell them.
I really regret that.
I really wish it was a secret, now. I've been threatened so much. I've even been threatened with RAPE for god's sake. Granted, most of these people stopped when they got in trouble over it, but still. It's caused me so much so distress and pain. I just feel so fucking terrible about myself the majority of the time and don't know what to do. Counseling didn't really help much. However, my mom and friends are generally very supportive, so that's good. I just wish people would leave me alone and like me for who I am. I try to be strong with myself and stand up, but I'm afraid that violence would make the issue worse.
I'm sorry guys. It must be a pain to read through this shit, but I had to vent.
Clix - July 4, 2007 04:06 AM (GMT)
Oh, I can only imagin how it is. I knew that's how things would be, so I made sure to keep it a secret. I've only told my closest friends and people on the internet that will never met me in real life. I'm sorry you chose the hard path. I wish the world was kinder.
Kiwi-chan - July 4, 2007 04:13 AM (GMT)
I feel your pain, dude... well... partially. Okay, maybe not at all, because guys like bisexual chicks. But I've had harsh remarks about it too.
If you seriously feel endangered by these people, there is such a thing as a restraining order. I don't know if this applies, but if this is schoolyard bullying, I'm sure there are teachers or counselors available for those things too.
Celtic Gaurdian - July 4, 2007 04:21 AM (GMT)
It's pretty terrible if they do anything at all, just for being you. Even though it's been around for thousands of years, small-mindedness and bigotry just don't seem to go out of style.
Anyway, don't let them get you down. If they can't accept things and people that are a little different, who needs them?
Lesbian StrikerS Lover - July 4, 2007 04:21 AM (GMT)
I can't honestly say that I know how you feel. If people are focusing that much on your sexuality and using that to define you, then they don't deserve your time. The threats seem to be the major problem here, as you've said. I don't really have a suggestion for that since it doesn't seem to be working at the present.
So, uh, don't feel bad about yourself by the words or actions of those who can't get past your sexuality. I mean, it's not your fault that they are so narrow minded.
Cyclone The Hedgechidna - July 4, 2007 04:31 AM (GMT)
It's not like you have to take all that abuse lying down. If you've got the muscle to back it up, put your big, gay, foot down.
Although I'm mostly straight(a little bi-curious I'll admit, but I really don't see myself dating guys), I hate homophobia like I was gay. If you can't beefcake your way out of the situation yourself, get some friends with a decent bit of beef to keep around you.
If all else fails, grab the attention of the nearest school official/police officer/any other person of authority at the first sign of a threatening situation if you think it may lead to violent activities.
Just because you're gay doesn't mean you automatically have to take EVERYTHING up the ass.
RyouKysler - July 4, 2007 04:36 AM (GMT)
voilence doesnt work...you'd just ended up grounded or in jail or whatnot -_- Just dont mind them ignore them say in your mind your better than the stupid people who threat you just because you are what you are.Or tell someone...if you dont you'll end up lock in your room going online evry other day...trust me i had a friend who had a friend with the same problem...he ended up having it so bad...he moved.
RockMaster - July 4, 2007 05:58 AM (GMT)
...And this is how I know people are stupid. Even though I don't personally approve of homosexuality, you don't see me preachin' to or threatening every gay person I see. It's something called tact and respect. Apparently, people don't know what they are anymore. If it's because they're trying to change you, vinegar isn't going to work. If it's because they're just stupid and can't realize that their words won't do shit to change your views, then let'em know. If they're just biggots without brains, then shoot'em in the head. ^_^: Well, I was kidding about the last one, but a good smack should show them you're not going to stand for their sheer stupidity. Fuckin' morons...
Digitalpotato - July 4, 2007 07:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kiwi-chan @ Jul 3 2007, 11:13 PM) |
| If you seriously feel endangered by these people, there is such a thing as a restraining order. I don't know if this applies, but if this is schoolyard bullying, I'm sure there are teachers or counselors available for those things too. |
...Wait, so there are teachers/counselors who actually give a flying shit about harassment that's supposedly against the law? Wow...I'm sending my children to that school district.
How old are you, are you old enough to get restraining orders against these people or get them in trouble for harassment? If so, then I would take full advantage of that.
I don't actually share your pain, but during those crappy Jr. high years, I was declared "Gay" for bleaching my hair Orange so I had some similar experiences. But most of the time, people just avoided me like I had Tuberculosis or something. That's also when I learned that when most authority figures say, "We'll get right on it", they're really doing it to get you out of their faces.
...Colorado's a really homophobic state. Let's just say that if you're supposed to be a "Flaming homosexual" out here, then you're literally being lit on fire by homophobes, not just really open about your sexuality...
Anime Freak - July 4, 2007 08:28 AM (GMT)
In my eyes, Moonchild is Moonchild. I honestly don't know what have had do deal with IRL, so I don't have any advice. I will agree with you, Violence on your part would make it worse. The ones that are causing the trouble are still in the mind set of the last generation's fear about Homosexuals. The best advice I can give is to continue being yourself, and keep telling others when you get people threating you. Eventually those people will get the idea that you don't like that anymore than the next person.
-I still like that hat. =D
DisgruntledPostalEmployee - July 4, 2007 08:46 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I concur with Freak. The best thing you can do is just sit it out. I had a lot of trouble from kids when I was at school who decided that I was gay.
I did resort to violence, and one kid got hospitalised (nothing serious, just some stitches), and I can say first-hand that it achieved nothing.
armadilloHD - July 4, 2007 02:56 PM (GMT)
Anyone who threatens you over your sexuality probably won't do anything if they know you're gonna tell someone. Not saying anything bad about you but look like a snitch and they'll get worried of getting spanked.
Alastor Blackrose - July 4, 2007 04:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Digitalpotato @ Jul 4 2007, 12:58 AM) |
| QUOTE (Kiwi-chan @ Jul 3 2007, 11:13 PM) | | If you seriously feel endangered by these people, there is such a thing as a restraining order. I don't know if this applies, but if this is schoolyard bullying, I'm sure there are teachers or counselors available for those things too. |
...Wait, so there are teachers/counselors who actually give a flying shit about harassment that's supposedly against the law? Wow...I'm sending my children to that school district.
How old are you, are you old enough to get restraining orders against these people or get them in trouble for harassment? If so, then I would take full advantage of that.
...Colorado's a really homophobic state. Let's just say that if you're supposed to be a "Flaming homosexual" out here, then you're literally being lit on fire by homophobes, not just really open about your sexuality...
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Last time I told my teacher, she told me I was being a "drama queen". Non of the teachers help, nor the counselors. They either think I'm blowing it out of proportion, making it up or joking around. Example:
Me: "A boy threatened to beat me and rape me today, Mrs. [example]"
Teacher: "Please don't joke about those things. Those are serious problems."
They can be so stupid sometimes. Anyway, I'm 15, if you must know. A restraining order would be a waste of time, as a lot of the kids do it to me. Plus, I don't want to isolate myself with a restraining order. I tell my mom, she tells the parents of the kids and they get in trouble. It solves some of the problems, but, it's still heart breaking to me that kids would try to do this to me. I'm honestly afraid that one of these days, I'll be dragged into some alley way or someone's house then beaten and raped.
Colorado is really homophobic. I live in farmland, and the majority of the farmers are very anti-gay. The majority of the people in general, really. None of my friends are really string enough to defend me, and we're all pacifists (most of the time).
armadilloHD - July 4, 2007 06:26 PM (GMT)
If someone raped you wouldnt they become what they're threatening you for?
Alastor Blackrose - July 4, 2007 06:35 PM (GMT)
I think it's more of a dominance thing with them. o_o
AngelHalo - July 4, 2007 07:27 PM (GMT)
If you wanted to be open with who you are, don't let anyone take it away, no matter the consequences. I have a sister who isn't ever afraid of admiting her sexual alignment, in which she is homosexual; She got into a fight one for that, but the result was satisfying to her. I may not know exactly how you feel, but one thing I can tell you right now: Never be afraid to do anything, weather it be getting into that fight, or trying to end it through negothiation or aid from superiors. To put it simply: If anyone try's to take away your freedom in any form (in which the topic would be: By who you are), then f*ck them, no matter who they are, they cannot take away who you are. You change yourself by their will, you are no less of a mental slave to them.
People want to be dominate, but many suck at it as it may cause misfortune, or perhaps a life of a human being or animal. If you cannot get help, then fight for your right, think of it as discipline.
Trilo - July 4, 2007 07:27 PM (GMT)
Hey, do not feel bad. I know that you feel threatened but do stay as strong as possible. People are fucked up and don't know how to accept people for who they are. Please, the offer is still open if you ever wanna talk send me a pm.
RyouKysler - July 5, 2007 02:26 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Moonchild @ Jul 3 2007, 10:58 PM) |
| I've been threatened so much. I've even been threatened with RAPE for god's sake. |
Ok what?Doesnt that make them homosexual?!Then why are they hating you?Its just my point of view feel free to correct me or whatnot
Citizen Bill - July 5, 2007 02:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (RyouKysler @ Jul 4 2007, 09:26 PM) |
| QUOTE (Moonchild @ Jul 3 2007, 10:58 PM) | | I've been threatened so much. I've even been threatened with RAPE for god's sake. |
Ok what?Doesnt that make them homosexual?!Then why are they hating you?Its just my point of view feel free to correct me or whatnot
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| I think it's more of a dominance thing with them. o_o |
Read the topic, moron.
RyouKysler - July 5, 2007 05:05 AM (GMT)
Alastor Blackrose - July 5, 2007 05:26 AM (GMT)
Don't post bullshit, please. :\
Digitalpotato - July 8, 2007 02:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (armadilloHD @ Jul 4 2007, 01:26 PM) |
| If someone raped you wouldnt they become what they're threatening you for? |
I doubt that they'd actually do that. Some people are homophobic because they think they might be gay themselves.
And besides, many people just make those threats to feel more powerful... I'd reccomend saying "So? Then do it" and watch them hesitate or do nothing but continue to make threats they'll never actually carry out.
And if they actually DID, then go to the police and if they prove that you had been raped, then they'd actually do something. Plus, if it's against homosexuals or non-whites, then it's a hate crime. (You can trash White people all you want...who gives a shit about them? -_-)