Ok seems how, and I am shure I am not the only one who feels this way but if I it's good to know, Terrorism and general human stupidity seem to affect so many people now adays. I thought I should put my views out and debate them with people who I wont have to worry should they find my comments... you get the idea.

Ok first one Terrorism and that includes bushes war on terror:

>>Surves us right and surves the U.S.A right. when Binladin and his group were fighting the U.S.S.R it was ok to train them and give them weapons, But when they turn on the U.S.A and those who are its allies (all whom they have called infidels since King Richard and his crusades.) we are all up in arms...

>>Am I the only one who wasn't surprised?

>>Bush senior goes to war and befor seeing it trough to the end he packs up and goes home... MISTAKE, did we all pack up in WW2 when we reached the German soil? NO we all gave them a :smackdown: (smackdown) all the way back till they had no where to back up too.

>>Now when Bush Jr. goes to do what his daddy didn't have the balls to do, and they take a few losses you are all up in arms?

>> Why am I not surprised again, I'll tell you why because every one on ocasion, and I am no exception to this rule, is STUPID.

>> The only reason more Hijackers havnt gotten ahold of planes and crashed them into buildings is because the soldiers are keeping those rats burried in the sand.

>> Let me ask you something. "Life is sacred"... so then if we hold this true than what gives them the right to attack inniscent people? people who have never wronged them! we the G-8 countries try to help the poorer ones and many of them enbrace our help with a knife in the back!!

>> lots of the "non-infidels" complain about the Westbank and Gausa (how ever they are spelled) but yet they didn't complain when they ganged up to attack the palastiniens it was their crusade to purify the holy land. Land almost all relegions find sacred. and the only thing that keep them the "Non-Infidels" from being annihilated from this world was the U.S.A stepping in and telling the palistinins to stop... (sorry for saying this again but) MISTAKE!!! if the U.S.A wouldn't have said stop we would have NO TERRORISTS waging their zhiehads (how ever that "Holy War" is spellt) in todays world.



On to general Human Stupidity:

>>The Huricane that hit the south... Is it not a governments job to protect its people? why the hell wasn't all of the soldiers still in the continental U.S.A not shipped to the cities that were to be hit by the damed thing? instead of after the fact being sent in to Shoot-to-kill all looters? wasnt there enough death there as it was? from what I have seen on the TV it all ready looked like something out of Resident Evil!

>>Hows the price of Gas (regular unleaded) where you are?
is it over $100 a tank yet?
I hade the privladge to be born in a place with Lots of oil (Alberta, Canada) yet we are paying double what other people in other countries have to pay (not to mention a federal gov who want to take the Surpluss we are getting from the high price of crude (our provincal gov made their budget with oil expected to be $22 a barrel and its what $60 or higher?)). Isn't this just stupid?


Lots to read and think about hua?
well I have nothing else to say for now so catch the flack later

It annoys me when people try to debate about important national/international conflicts and assume that they know what they're talking about.

Okay, first off, there's something called Spell Check. Pretty sure you're not familiar with it, seeing as how many spelling errors there were in your last post.

Now let's break down what you've said at your main points.

Okay, for one, if memory serves, Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm was meant only to purge Saddam Hussein's presence from Kuwait, not to start a full blown war with a man that was little or no threat to the USA, and a man who still was not a threat to the US even after George W. Bush invaded Iraq on his little "anti-terrorism" crusade. Let's not bash something we most likely have no knowledge of unless we have evidence that backs up our opinion, shall we?

Is it really the Palestinians fault that they're pretty much pissed at the jewish take-over of Israel after World War II and Hitler's maniacal "Final Solution"? Not really, no. Well, The USA stepping in has really nothing to do with the amount of terrorists that are spawned from their crude anarchist teachings, It's the fact that so many political figures find it necessary to try and interfere with things that aren't their own bloody business to show that they 'care' for the other societies of this world. That and the USA and the country of Israel have sort of a bond, if that's what supplying them with weapons for a short amount of time would develop.

Oh yes, like a large amount of military personnel could REALLY stop a body of wind and pressure that could fling them like caution to the wind. The fact that they are using deadly force on the looters and other anarchy driven buffoons is because the morons are having something click in their minds saying "HAY LETZ SHOOT THE LAW". That coupled with the fact that even though the businesses are abandoned, it doesn't give those people the right to steal, kill or rape anybody. It just means that they were at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Well I knew that THIS was going to happen.

People aren't stupid.

But you are for making such a gross assumption. Finish middle school, kid.

It Just The Leaders of the countries *cough* Blair and Bush *cough* (nah not making a wild assumption that ALL leaders are stupid, some are quite decent and some turned thier countries around for the good, but the majority of them are corrupt leaders who only care for thier own wealth,saftey etc etc etc)

Quit attributing things you don't like to political figureheads. Not everything that goes arwy is Bush's or Blair's fault. It's downright stupid to say, "Hey, I don't like what America is doing! THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BUSH'S FAULT!"

Oddly enough, the President doesn't have total power over the government. Yeah, freaky, I know, but the government doesn't work the way you think it does. It has a system, and this system has been working since before you were born.

What you're doing isn't arguing. It's finger pointing and mudslinging.

I love it when people think terrorism is a NEW problem. For @#$%'s sake it's be going on as long as there have been authority figures.

You obviously don't know Tony terribly well.

And yeah, makes me laugh when someone thinks terrorism was only a problem come 9/11. IRA anyone? Been doing the rounds for decades. They've been setting off bombs in shopping centres before anyone on this board was born.

Should you really be talking politics with a "Supporter of Soviet Russia"? :D

I dont give a crap about terrorism, as long as it's dealt with, and it doesn't interfere with my rights as a citizen.

Can you please do us all a favor and think about your post longer than 30 seconds the next time you try to talk about this?

@lothar: Your sig has never been more appropriate.

So, apparently, i'm supposed to give a damn about it? Right. It hasn't even doen anything directly to me, and probably never will, providing sod's law doesn't come into play. It's something that has, and always will be a burden to Society. Much like crime. It's always going to be there, and we try to stop it where we can. I obey the laws, and don't care for troublemakers. I don't participate in terrorist acts, and would try to aid should someone nearby fall victim to one. It's there, no denying it. Why get in a flap about it?

Yeah, because EVERYONE knows that if Kerry was president, HE certainly would've stopped Katrina before it happened!

He has a point you know :D Up with communism!

The only reason communism didn't work in RUssia, is because it's too big! The communist regime is better suited to smaller communities.

Oh so thats why you kept saying that there sould be a Comunist Scotland.

No, the reason it didn;t work is because the leaders were evil @#$%ing pricks who slaughtered people if they looked at them funny.

I'm talking about communism itself though, not it's leaders. I fully understand that most of the time, it's not our beliefs that are the problem, but the people that teach them or that hold positions of importance. Though that isn't always the case either.

OT: Sorry to double post, but I felt this needed an answer.

Chris, you're not half full of shit some times. You take thhe things I say WAY too seriously and out of context. It was a joke, get over it it was the General election at the time and my first time voting also. I was being sarcastic.

Without leaders, communism wouldn't exist. And it it just isn't working. Look at China, who keep beating up University students and looking at their countryside funny trying to figure out while people are dying fo starvation.

And look at Vietnam, 30 years ago millions of people died for the communist cause. Now they've decided to becocome capitalist because Communism just isn't making their country work.

Read this for proof

I also realise that it isn't working, nor has it ever worked. I'm just saying that if it were to ever work, it would be better suited to small communities rather than large countries. You do understand the concept of communism I assume?

Also, I would like to make it clear, that I am not a communist in any way, I just take an active interest in politics.

ok now that I am back at a PC I can reply to some things on here.


#1 People arn't stupid! - you just proved my point after a few posts in here. I you, Bill and a few others, would have checked my profile you uwould have noticed that I am nearly 20 so calling me a kid proves part of the point. And if people wernt stupid we wouldn't have murders, rapists, theifs, terrorists, currupt politicians, homless people, gangsters, debt, and World hunger to name a few.

#2 Spell check - Please tell me where the spell checker is on this form... i couldnt seem to find it. (another point to the people ARE stupid)

#3 It annoys me when people try to debate about important national/international conflicts and assume that they know what they're talking about. - If you would have read my post I said it was my opinion and I happen to have a great deal of knowage about politics, history, and current world events.

#4 Finish middle school - as i stated in #1 I am almost 20 and for your infromation I receaved honors in my final year of High school (and a Gr 12 grad from Canada knows more about their country and the world than most members of the U.S.A government and 60% of its citizens.)

#5 oO?Kodama - I respect your views on the first 2 however for the 3rd one, you missed my point I was pointing out that they could hav been used to evacuate the citizens that could not flee, the few moronic looters & panic driven anarcists there by preventing needless deaths.

#6 I set this up to debate terrorism and general human stupidity not politics and the pros & cons of communism

#7 I know terrorism isn't new Its been around aslong as there has been life on this rock (some by animals, and some of it by our civilised humanity!!!!)


theres some more stuff for you all, so for now I am out of here