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Title: Susa, deity of Japan.
Description: Izumo & Silk Road.


Rozzlynn - November 22, 2006 06:48 PM (GMT)
To piece togther the Japanese legends from various sources (1, 2);

"Izanagi and Izanami stood on the floating bridge of Heaven and held counsel together, saying, “Is there not a country beneath?” Thereupon they thrust down the jewel-spear of Heaven and, groping about therewith, found the ocean. The brine which dripped from the point of the spear coagulated and became an island which received the name of Ono-goro-jima. The two deities thereupon descended and dwelt in this island.

Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto consulted together saying, “We have now produced the great-eight-island country, with the mountains, rivers, herbs, and trees. Why should we not produce someone who shall be lord of the universe? They then together produced the Sun Goddess, who was called [Amaterasu]....The resplendent luster of this child shone throughout all the six quarters. Therefore the two deities rejoiced saying, “We have had many children, but none of them have been equal to this wondrous infant. She ought not to be kept long in this land, but we ought of our own accord to send her at once to Heaven [...]

[Izanagi and Izanami’s] next child was Susa no o no Mikoto….This god had a fierce temper and was given to cruel acts."

So, as punishment for being so wild, Susa-no-o was cast out of Heaven and sent to wander Japan. The sinister Orochi, an eight-headed dragon, is said to have dominated the Izumo province in Japan, and to have demanded maiden sacrifices. When Susa no o came upon this area, he met an old couple. They told him that they had already sacrificed seven daughters to the dragon, and that the eighth was to be sacrificed next. The daughter in question here was named Kushinada, and since she was a very beautiful and kind young girl that Susa no o fell deeply in love with, he told the couple that he would rescue Kushinada if he was allowed to marry her. The couple agreed at once.

Susa-no-o turned Kushinada into a comb and put her in his hair. He then put out eight barrels of sake, which the dragon drank with relish, making it fall asleep, and Susa no o proceeded to cut off all of Orochi's heads. He found the sword, Ame-no-Murakumo (later named Kusanagi), in one of the serpent's many tails. In some versions, Kusanagi is called Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi, 'The Grass-Cutting Sword', and this sword was given to Amaterasu, Susa-no-o's sister, the Sun Goddess, as a gift of reconciliation.

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And guess what? GS gets a mention in Wikipedia's Orochi page;

"In Golden Sun: The Lost Age, the Orochi is portrayed as an invincible Chinese dragon that has to be weakened by light orbs before it can be killed. The story is nearly identical except that Kushinada is not turned into a comb and the dragon was killed by the protagonists instead of Susa-no-o. In addition, after defeating the boss, a sword called the "Cloud Brand" can be found near the dragon's tail, a reference to the Kusanagi. "

Susa and Kushinada the subjects of the odd bit of fanart - Feizhi and Hama too:

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windseer1986 - November 26, 2006 12:40 AM (GMT)
Awesome. That also explains what the orochi monster in dq3 is based off.

SuicuneSol - November 26, 2006 06:45 PM (GMT)
AHHHHH!!

Very nice. I love it. Wow, there's still so much in GSTLA that we are not aware of. Let me add on a little to Rozzlynn's post... a few things I realized...

I sort of instinctively translated some of these names, like:

Ame-no-Murakumo
"Ame" means "rain" in Japanese. "Mura" means "village", and "Kumo" means "cloud." (explaining The Cloud Brand.)

If I was in charge of Aerie of the Roc, I would set up more links under GSTLA explaining this kind of reference to lore. It might spruce it up, and make it more interesting.

Rozzlynn - November 28, 2006 10:46 AM (GMT)
Rain-village-cloud? Wish I knew as much japanese... That does explain the Cloud Brand. ^_^ Yay...

There are so many references to lore and landscapes... I'm not sure if you fight the Kobold monsters in any of the caves along silk road (if so, this is sort of on-topic), but they're a bit of German folklore; evil spirts that haunt mines/caves/tunnels, and which the element Cobalt is named after 'cause of how its ores pollute mines. (Another thing I learned from my big Chemistry texbook.)

I think there's a thread at the GSR forum about the origins of stuff in GS... Ran into the Uncyclopedia entry for GS the other day, and I think they might have been the ones who made it, as it's done by the real-world geography that the game's based on. "[Piers] gets imprisoned by Australians when he is thought to be a Vietnamese pirate." ^.^ Though they mix up Atlantis and Lemuria (both are real-world legends!!)...

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SuicuneSol - November 30, 2006 02:16 AM (GMT)
Excuse me? What of Lemuria and Atlantis? I thought Lemuria was the Golden Sun-version of Atlantis. Are you telling me both Lemuria and Atlantis were real-fictional myths?

Rozzlynn - December 4, 2006 01:40 AM (GMT)
Uh, yes. (Like I said ages ago in The Fifth Age. I guess you didn't read all the comments.) Lemuria was supposed to have been the motherland (so it's also called 'Mu'), in the Pacific, and to have overlapped timeline-wise with Atlantis for a while (after having colonised it). There's some info at http://www.lemuria.net/, and this is still the clearest map of the two I've seen:

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And I think the real-world legend is that the Great Flood (the tsunami that probably did actually happen in biblical times) sunk them - as opposed to just bringing Babi and Lunpa to visit.

Plus... You were surprised to hear about Kushinada being an Adept too? Some of the quotes regarding that are from the nameless villagers, which I'll add when I find my notes, but even in the compulsory game script:

KRADEN: Psynergy is many things... The power to move things with one's mind, to heal, to create.
UZUME: All with one's mind? Tell me, is it something like...this? [Uzume uses Move] Is that the power you're talking about?
JENNA: That power? Lady Uzume?
UZUME: It's not mine alone. Kushinada and Susa possess it as well.
KUSHINADA: This is the power we possess. I assume you have something like it yourselves?
(YES OR NO)
YES - KUSHINADA: So you call what we do "Psynergy," and you can do it, too?
NO - KUSHINADA: I thought so. Only those who can wield the power can see it. And you did see it, didn't you?




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