Title: POLL: Read All Bills Aloud Before Voting
Bored383 - November 20, 2009 06:55 PM (GMT)
Should all bills up for a vote in Congress - be it in the House or the Senate - be read aloud to all members prior to voting?
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/68777-k...-saturday-night TrojanMan - November 20, 2009 07:04 PM (GMT)
Not sure if this is a serious question. It's already a requirement that is only suspended by unanimous agreement.
If you want to be outraged by anything, look into how the DNC is buying Louisiana's vote by shoveling $100B to the state in "disaster relief" in this bill.
Bored383 - November 20, 2009 07:09 PM (GMT)
look at the spin in the article
Murf the Elder - November 20, 2009 07:30 PM (GMT)
I think there needs to be a requirement that any and every bill brought up for a vote have a footnote naming the article and section of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do whatever is in the bill.
Yeah...that'll never happen.
cockerpunk - November 20, 2009 07:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Murf the Elder @ Nov 20 2009, 02:30 PM) |
I think there needs to be a requirement that any and every bill brought up for a vote have a footnote naming the article and section of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do whatever is in the bill.
Yeah...that'll never happen. |
interesting how this would effect so many things - abortion, gay marriage, undeclared wars, torture ...
they are all just authoritarians with different hobbies.
Bored383 - November 20, 2009 07:56 PM (GMT)
yes CP . . . I do believe you are starting to see the light
cockerpunk - November 20, 2009 08:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bored383 @ Nov 20 2009, 02:56 PM) |
| yes CP . . . I do believe you are starting to see the light |
maybe murf will soon.
the only thing you can do is vote for the hobbies they support, but the mentality and philosophy is the same.
TrojanMan - November 20, 2009 09:04 PM (GMT)
Now I'm going to give CP the "not sure if serious."
It seems as if he's agreeing to an aderence to the Constitution but that doesn't quite seem his style. CP generally loves it when government "solves" problems. Whereas, the Constitution is a solution to the problem of too much government. So it seems paradoxical.
Will stay tuned for more info.
Murf the Elder - November 20, 2009 09:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (TrojanMan @ Nov 20 2009, 04:04 PM) |
| Now I'm going to give CP the "not sure if serious." |
I'll do it. I've had this sitting in Photobucket just waiting for a chance to use it anyway. :P
cockerpunk - November 20, 2009 10:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (TrojanMan @ Nov 20 2009, 04:04 PM) |
Now I'm going to give CP the "not sure if serious."
It seems as if he's agreeing to an aderence to the Constitution but that doesn't quite seem his style. CP generally loves it when government "solves" problems. Whereas, the Constitution is a solution to the problem of too much government. So it seems paradoxical.
Will stay tuned for more info. |
interesting how you are dead wrong ...
how many times have i explained my political science and philosophy to you TM? and you still get it wrong every time, falsely associating me with all manner of things i repeatedly have stated i do not agree with.
wispaintstyle - November 21, 2009 01:17 AM (GMT)
Its a sensible idea, but I'd rather that they just all go home.
brokenzipper - November 21, 2009 04:35 AM (GMT)
voted yes. just want them to hire the speed reader guy again. maybe they can call it one more job created using stimulus money. :D
Bored383 - November 21, 2009 04:14 PM (GMT)
Chemical X - November 21, 2009 07:37 PM (GMT)
Torture works CP.
Sure put some stipulations on its use but not not what is allowed.
TrojanMan - November 23, 2009 03:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (cockerpunk @ Nov 20 2009, 06:32 PM) |
| QUOTE (TrojanMan @ Nov 20 2009, 04:04 PM) | Now I'm going to give CP the "not sure if serious."
It seems as if he's agreeing to an aderence to the Constitution but that doesn't quite seem his style. CP generally loves it when government "solves" problems. Whereas, the Constitution is a solution to the problem of too much government. So it seems paradoxical.
Will stay tuned for more info. |
interesting how you are dead wrong ...
how many times have i explained my political science and philosophy to you TM? and you still get it wrong every time, falsely associating me with all manner of things i repeatedly have stated i do not agree with.
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Well, that's why I said it seems contradictory. (emphasis retained)
Quick question for you, then. Choose one:
* The government knows better than the people.
* The people know better than the government.
Disclaimer: Political issue not stated nor required. Power not addressed. Ignore exceptions and overlap (e.g. when the people in question are the government). Ignore party lines and assume "government" to be any authoritative entity - federal, state or otherwise. Ignore individuals involved with government and focus on overall policy rather than rhetoric.
ofs - November 23, 2009 03:43 PM (GMT)
I voted no.. who the hell is going to sit there and listen to it? certainly not a lofty congress man.. i think there should be a test! like.. 50 questions.. if you are going to vote on it you have to get like 30 correct. to prove you read it. im tired.. you get my drift..
