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Title: Radical Dreamers
Description: 3rd Chrono Game


XxKenjiYamaguchi - February 29, 2004 06:24 AM (GMT)
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Chrono Break was a Title copyrighted by Square in like 2001 or something. I just found this out recently my self. If squarenix is smart they will continue on with the series considering that both Cross and Trigger were big sellers. (even though I didn't like the way they linked the two... They killed LUCCA DAMMIT!)


Whatever happened to this game? Radical Dreamers.

Extremely hard to find, but was actually the game to connect Chrono Cross & Chrono Trigger, was released in Japan around the time of Chrono Cross's US release.

Knives101 - March 2, 2004 09:41 PM (GMT)
;) Radical Dreamers takes place in the begging of Chrono Cross during the Viper Manor Area, though it tells it a little different. Its like an action book really.

I believe you can get it for an emulator, and it is translated. Try www.Cherryroms.com.

Master01 - March 9, 2004 05:21 PM (GMT)
radical dreamers is a game only published in japan, got 7 endings, i belive that his perpuse is to.. clear some parts up... like... what the conection betwine schala and kid, and (but every body knows that one) the fact that lucca and kid was sister (who ever sow the end of the chrono trigger in anime, she was that little girl with the zeal's pandent), what happend to the chrono heros after trigger, and, but ofcurse, majil, the 3rd name of magus (didnt officaly prooved, but there is a discreption of them both, and its the same), the "brother" of the muasmune, and, most importent of all, kid's measurence :lol: .

WolfPack - March 20, 2004 05:47 AM (GMT)
Finding the roms isn't hard, you can get the translation patch for it a demiforces site. I myself, was hoping it would clear up some of the odd things in CC, but it looks like the creation team was on lsd or something when they made it.

Alriightyman - March 26, 2004 03:07 AM (GMT)
actually i have the rom if u want it i can e-mail to you

WolfPack - March 27, 2004 09:26 PM (GMT)
Just about everyone has they rom, lol. It's being able to read it thats the problem.

GalaxyFalcon - March 28, 2004 12:01 AM (GMT)
LOL Yes. That is why demiforce did what he did..

WolfPack - March 28, 2004 01:37 AM (GMT)
Hail! Demiforce!

Chosker - March 29, 2004 08:05 PM (GMT)
Radical Dreamers is NOT Chrono Break/Brake, so I believe this thread doesn't belong to this forum :)

anyway, (the story I know about it, correct me if I'm wrong) Square started working on Radical Dreamers as a sequel to CT (you know, not a direct sequel, just as Square usually did till FFX-2), and made it for some japanese SNES addon
as they were working on the game, they realized the power of the playstation, so they just "finished" the project (they kinda just make it work so they could release it), and moved to work on that CT sequel for the Playstation

but note, the happenings of radical dreamers are not true in the CT/CC story!
in RD Lynx is some human aristocrat who has the frozen flame and kid wants to steal it with the help of Serge and Magil (supposedly Magus)
in CC, Lynx was a human (can't tell who without spoiling) that was corrupted and turned into a panther (serge's worst fear), and Kid doesn't find about the frozen flame till later in the game, and Lynx doesn't have it; and Magus doesn't even appear

I don't even think it was a game to connect CT and CC, I'd consider it more like a side thing, that has little to do with CT/CC besides using some of CC's characters

Nocturnal - April 12, 2004 01:09 AM (GMT)
As far as I remember Radical Dreamers isn't connected to Chrono Trigger/Cross plot. I heard that events that occurs in RD are a subspace, one of houndreds of dimensions that may happened but haven't. Also there's another specualtions about Magus who, as shown in the Chrono Trigger ending sequence, jumped in time gate because he wantd to find Schala and ended up in this dimension. Disguised as Magil he joined Serge and Kid to find something about frozen flame(don't know if it was related to his sister, don't quite remember storyline of Radical Dreamers now)

Blarg - April 12, 2004 05:47 PM (GMT)
I tried playing into it a little.... but it is so stupid. I would only want to read it to see what the basic story is... but you get into all this shit about "you are attacked by bats. What do you do?" And it's so pointless because it get's into an hour of text and choices when you're attacked by bats. I don't care about bats!!!

For those of you who beat it, is it CLOSE to the same? I mean, do you have to get the Chrono Cross and free Schala from the TimeDevourer?

Nocturnal - April 12, 2004 06:15 PM (GMT)
Ha, I see you don't like reading. Radical Dreamers at this point is a true RPG. I like this kind of enterainment alot. You're imagination is running at top speed, the center of whole game isn't placed on the screen but in your mind. You're the creator of main character looks, you're seeing with your mind what they're doing right now, how they're acting, what their mood is and also only by reading text you can imagine what they're doing right now. Add a great atmosphere that comes from awesome music and you get a great game. It's not always all about the graphics you know

As for connection to Chrono Cross, as I said before it's just a subspace of one of houndreds possibilities that could have happened. Whole storyline is about Kid who wants to retrieve frozen flame from a demi-human aristocrat called Lynx(who haven't got any connection with CC Lynx)

Blarg - April 12, 2004 06:34 PM (GMT)
Actually, I think a game also needs fun gameplay. Maybe Squaresoft shoulda released a book called the Radical Dreamers. Hell, I would read it. And I would read the game Radical Dreamers too, if it didn't go into those pointless text about the battles.

On another note... is it like a choose your own adventure book?

Nocturnal - April 12, 2004 07:02 PM (GMT)
It is fun to play. At first when I started playing whole sotryline attracted me so much that I spent most of my free time playing it 'cause I was curious about what will hapen next, why Kid holds a grudge against Lynx, what's behind her past that she don't want to talk about it and how will all end. Battles should be there too because you'll get easily bored by reading only what characters are doing and you would already know that there'll be only a happy end 'cause they wouldn't fight anyone. Well, they're breaking in the manor at night so why they wouldn't meet a sentinel or other person who's guarding the frozen flame? It's a big manor, that's first so it has a big security and, what's more, there's a very important artifact inside it, so there should be someone around. And hey, if there was only a text to read in square's product then it wouldn't be called a game then :]

Em, I don't understand what you mean by "my own adventure book". Sorry, I'm not that good in English

Blarg - April 12, 2004 07:15 PM (GMT)
Well... to put it this way... how many different endings are there? Just one? Or more? And I don't mean endings as just some humorous touch depending on when you kill Lavos. I mean endings as in different paths you can take. If there is only one, then it is not a choose your own adventure book.

On ANOTHER another note: Is the word "Lavos" mentioned once in Radical Dreamers?

Nocturnal - April 12, 2004 09:30 PM (GMT)
There are seven different endings in Radical Dreamers as I remember correctly. They're just an addon to the story but they're just bonus scenes that don't tell anything important or are just for laugh. On second thought there's one where(spoiler) you can kiss Kid, be killed by her or kill her. Heck, there's even a scene where Magil/Magus is ending with little thief the same as above(only kiss) so you have multiple choices(/spoiler).

As for Lavos, well they're not mentioning about him but there's a piece of him that main characters are after from the whole game. Frozen flame. Still, when you enter the library and search books on the shelves you can find an information about Neo Epoch

WolfPack - April 13, 2004 03:41 AM (GMT)
Ya epoch was cool. That was about it tho, like i said, looks like the whole game was on LSD though. Kid and the sunflower just topped it off. lol.

Blarg - April 13, 2004 07:26 PM (GMT)
Was Radical Dreamers originally the same world as Chrono Trigger? Or did they just take that story and decide to connect it with chrono trigger later (in Chrono Cross)? Because they could have just said Frozen Flame was some random legendary item, and then DECIDE to make it part of Lavos when they added that story onto Chrono Trigger.

Nocturnal - April 14, 2004 10:04 PM (GMT)
Well, all I know is that the story of Radical Dreamers was originally meant to be in Chrono Trigger game but Square didn't had time and planned that they'll release firstly CT and then Radical Dreamers where they'll add ideas that wouldn't fit in Chrono Triggers storyline. Square while making RD got the idea about making much bigger sequel so they quickly finished this text game and started working on Chrono Cross which is the real second game about time travelling(what I've heard. This could be false of course).

This could be true, cause they didn't mention anywhere in the game that Frozen flame is part of Lavos's shell. Kid is just hungry for the fortune that she could've made by stealing this artifact

WolfPack - April 24, 2004 10:08 PM (GMT)
If you ask me, the whole thing was just a little weird. And personally, it left me very empty after waiting all those years to play it, only to have it turn out like it did.




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