:huh: Yo I managed to get the pictures online, these are the heros of the story, I haven't finished any villian pictures yet, but will get them done eventually I'm working on a uber powerfull Dalton at the moment.


Grim the WARHORSE
Sevant Daughter of the original Knight captain
Medina the Blade Maiden
Tata the hero
Better Slash picture, he's holding both slasher1 and 2


still work'n out the kincks of the story, trying to keep it as close to continuity as possible, it takes place in 610 AD 10yrs after the war with the mystics, and during a new war between Gaurdia and porre, lets say I want to explain how Porre went from nothing to a military continent, then nothing and back to a military continent... I always hated how that was never explained in CC, in ct it just looked like a one village island with a busted up castle.. well I plan on explaining that.

Holy cow! Just... *whistles* Those are pretty awesome.

/Galidan

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good, but you need some improvements on some of them. I like tata the hero lol

Lol, I think all of them are awesome. That pic with slash with a moustache still cracks me up. :lol:

:huh: Tata is my fav. I know I need improvements, I've always had serious problem with over shading... but whats done is done. I know medina looks like she needs improvenments but if I could get a better scan of her you see that her torso and legs are coverd in spiral tatoos. and her face isn't at all like the others cause she's not from the same planet, I was going for alien elf like, think the only other problem I had with my other drawings were that slashes legs don't look toned enough, and tatas eyes are a little odd looking.

Brillant sketches Knives101, I especially like your Sevant Daughter of the original Knight captain sketch particularly that blade/spear weapon, it looks like it would deal some serious punishment ........ Best of luck with the fanfic ...........

Cheers,

VAsh

:huh: Actually I had a interesting style of fighting thought up with it, I was going to have it be her use the halberd blad only to clear the area around her, but if she had to fight one on one, it would be a defensive weapon, she would stick hte halberd blade in the ground and use the spikes and hoof blade at the oppisite end to deflect blows, while she got in close with the steel claw on her right hand... yes that is a claw on her right hand, another screw up curticy of bad photos and to much erasing... and a little accidental spilt blood on my part.

Story and concepts have come to a screeching halt, haven't been able to think of a good pose for dalton, and what his rapiers would look like.

i think you need to study the female figure a bit more...

Smaller armor (and bodies) for the women? Could that be what you meant, Almighty_Gir?

I think Gir just means overall, not just a specific body part...

:huh: why I thought the two girls came out great, not to busty, not to skinny. If your talk'n about medina she looks weird cause she is supposed to, she's a alien.

busty or not, females are curvy.

:huh: :angry: CRUVY, Dude ones in full knight armor, and the others in a heavy ceremional cloak. Do you mean cause I gave the girls muscles and tone, well ones constantly wearing heavy armor that should be a no brainer. And medina isn't supposed to appear healthy she's actually suppose to be a little animic... curvy what the hell are you talk'n about, and please don't compare me to MMs latest drawing, I know he is way out of my calibur and draws with a completely different style.
I don't like to draw miss perfect, because nobody looks perfect.

there I vented I'm done.

*sigh*

even in robes, women still have curves, even "fat" ones doo. the most notable part is the face. plus her whole stance, even in action, women have elegent movements. never draw a female with straight lines, always curves. ALWAYS. plus, if your going for an anime style, which it looks like you are, your even more wrong about how to draw females. and as for the armour, if your not meant to see the curves, why is she wearing fitted armour?

tip of the day: no matter how much you dont like someones advice, never throw it away.

:huh: thats not true, not all wemon are cruvy, infact most are fairly bony. I wasn't throwing it away, I just don't draw like that. And i wasn't going for a anime style, I got my own style, the only drawing I strayed into that form was Grim, simply cause I needed to mod the form of one of the original creature types.

uhm, no offence to YOU, but you made me remember to say somethin.
That's for everyone who says things like "anime style"..
ther IS NOT such a thing like "Anime-Style" or "Manga Style"! if SO, there has to be all the famous mangakas, drawin the same style! but like we all know, there's an Akira Toriyama style, Masakazu Katsura Style, Clamp Style.. bla.. and much more.. So, if you say you are NOT drawing Manga style, and if that's right, you MUST be drawing US style, or something and not ur own style.. and thats bulls.hit, there IS no Manga style or US style coz these things ARE no styles, they're something else.. uhm.. dunno, wether there IS a word for these two, or more? I, for my opinion, can only differ between these two things.. or it can be Manga and ALL other comics in the world. so maybe it's not even US comic. It's manga and comics from all over the world. (help me if anybody knows more than these two)
So nobody can say, that I have no own style, if I'm drawing Manga and you HAVE coz you're not drawing manga. get what I mean? So when I draw manga, it's my own style AND manga. and yours is YOUR own style AND no manga. I'd say that's the right description.
sorry for offing da topic. but I think, that's a description mistake, what's unfortunately done by too much people. and it can't be said too often..

Notice he said "a anime style", not just anime style. He was referring to all of the different styles, including the ones you mentioned, KingH. That must be one of your "pet peeves". :D

haha ^^.. lol.. allrighty, sorry knivey :P ..
but nevertheless, it had to be said. ^^.. so it wasn't for nothing ^^..

:huh: sorry? I don't even know what you were griping about, I said I have my own style. Almighty grim was the one that said I was going for a anime style(manga style, however generalized you'd like to look at it). I was just drawing..

methinks this thread has gotten a bit violent...

Knives, as with any advice you ever recieve, it needs to be taken with a grain of salt, in the end that's all it is, advice. You can choose to ignore it if you want but please try to stay civil and refrain from ranting like your first reply. I can understand why you may not like what Gir said but still no need to go on rant. I've had my fair share of (poor) critiques but you have to remember that, most of the time, people critique to help you in your progression with art. If you don't agree with something just say so and why and as with all netiquette refrain from using all capitals unless they blatantly come out and insult you, your artwork, your family, etc.

If you do not want to read to see what I think of what is posted then you'd best not read on.

[Starting Moogle Man's Critiquing Procedures]

(This following is based on "Sevant Daughter of the original Knight captain")
I, personally, have not made any critiques because I do not think the quality of the image posted would allow me to make an intelligent, informed critique (digital camera images are never awesome to make a judgement from). But, of what is posted, I can see where Gir is coming from; from what I do see of the image, from a technical standpoint, I don't see too much trouble in terms of actual drawing technique. There are some basic problems present though:

• Her right arm/hand does not appear correct
• It appears her right shoulder begins too low based on the location of the shoulder pad
• The Legs appear a bit too long

Once again, these are my interpretations and may be wrong due to the poor image quality it may be distorted when you took the picture due to the angle at which you took the picture.

While a female does not necessarily HAVE to be curvy, they should appear at least with a feminine touch (again the image is blurry at the head so I may be incorrect in my interpretation) but the head does appear to be somewhat masculine in it's appearance.
I understand that women need not be curvy, however, with your picture of the female should be muscular and not bony, therefore there should be a bit more emphasis on curvature.

Now with "Medina the Blade Maiden". I will not comment on her basic structure too much, as apparently it is another race. One thing, her right forearm connecting with her elbow appears odd, might want to work on that. The clothing around her breast area... I'm not too sure about. If she is wearing robes they would flow off of her breasts and not sink back in to show the lower curvature of her breasts (unless she is wearing fitted clothing to emphasize it like "seven of nine" from star trek:voyage). I see you like to draw wrinkles in, that's good, wrinkles can show depth, flow, size and maleability of the clothing. However, it does look like you are overdoing it a bit, particularly on her left arm, the top wrinkles appear to be stretching or a pull on top from side to side, however then below it you draw in a flowing wrinkle to show that it flows downwards with slack and finesse. Now, this can work out, but you drew the two differing types of wrinkles in in opposing directions which does not work. I'm not even going to try to analyze the lower half of her due to the very poor image quality of the lower half.

[Ending Moogle Man's Critiquing Procedures]

I mean no animosity towards you, but that is how I see it and when I set out to do a critique I like to be very serious about it and once more my interpretations are likely not accurate due to poor image quality.

:huh: <_< eh I'll admit I'm a little protective when it comes to my art. You may be right about some of that. But it would be pointless to make adjustments on the drawing cause of the way I draw, big think dark lines don't erase well with a basic eraser.
I ain't perfect theres a lot of things that I didn't like about how my drawings came out, though your seeing things I didn't nessecarly have a problem with which is what gets to me I guess.

okily dokily.. XD
but ME, too, never said, that YOU said it.. ^^..
I just explained the whole situation.. oky ya? ;)

seems to me like you just cant take criticism properly. you should work on that.

:huh: Thats a possibilty. <_<

It's not that I'm bashing your style or anyone else is, there's jsut a difference between anatomy out of proportion and a unique style...and it just looks weird o_O

lol, yeah XD.. ME likes the anatomy of Johnny Bravo XD...

I was the concept they used for that character! Not funny!

:huh: oui...anyone else...

lolwhat? XD..
you mean, you have that short legs and huge torso? XD...

I think Mango is only referring to the hair.

/Galidan

Back from the dead...

I think your style is awsome, as long as you pave your own path and use tips that are helpful to you, you should reach the level of the big dogs eventually.

I'm not good at giving tips, but I know one tip I can give and it never fails; PRACTICE :D !

:huh: heh thanks, I have a hard time practing, I'm one of those people who will get interested in something, dive into it full force and then quickly ring it dry till I'm disinteresed in it again, rinse repeat, so ya its a little hard for me to practice. Haven't draw'n anything... or finished anything at least since the picture of Grim, and that was more than a month ago.


heh thanx everyone for your input, I know I can be a putz about it, and flip out at the littlest criteauqe... but ya thanks anyway... ;)