View Full Version: Endings

Chrono Trigger Remake Project > Chrono Trigger > Endings


Title: Endings


neovulcan - December 24, 2004 01:42 AM (GMT)
I have seen all the endings (I think) but I'm wondering if I'm missing one that isn't on the walkthrough pages of listed endings. There is reference made to something wanting us to relive it's experiences (the thing creating the gates). There was another quote of something like "Lavos must have played an integral part in this entities life". Are these quotes leading up to a regular ending? Is there another one? If not, will such a conclusion be edited into this project (I just found it today so sorry if this is a dumb question)?

Hadriel - December 24, 2004 05:31 AM (GMT)
The line is from Glenn.

"Lavos playeth an integral role in the fortunes of this Entity..."

They say something about the Entity being at rest in the ending...then again, there hasn't been much detail regarding the Entity given in the series.

WolfPack - December 25, 2004 01:21 AM (GMT)
Over at the Chronoicles, we talked about that alot. Some people said it was the earth, some said nu, and some said lavos. Personally, i like the Nu theroy best, as it makes the most sense. Nu is in every age you visit. The only problem with this theory is that there are more than one Nu, as seen in Zeal. Who knows, it may be Earth.

Janus - December 29, 2004 01:39 AM (GMT)
Comon guys, YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THIS, the "entity" that they refer to is Schala , after playing CC you should have guessed it.
Think about it,Lavos played an important rol in the life of this "entity",In the incident inside the black omen everyone ends up being transfered to some other place,you find everyone,exept Schala.
Also remember that the power of lavos suposedly opened gates randomly whenever he was awakewed, with the fusion Lavos-Schala,she was able to use that power on her own benefit , creating gates in diferent time eras so that someone could find out about Lavos and stop him.Of course that she had to do this before being controled by Lavos itself.


i know i have a writting style that could confuse the smartes person you could ever know but...if you read this post carefuly you'll understand what I'm Saying and probably agree with me ;)


Happy Holidays to you all!
And if you see me down your block , you better run , cause I'm as evil as an ant! :P
See ya

P.S.
I think that you guys are smarter than what you have wrote earlier , so please , think it carefuly next time you try to understand something as important as this is ;)
"Be cool to each other and party on!"

SNES Fans - December 30, 2004 12:04 AM (GMT)
maybe he didn't play CC you know :blink:

I didn't play CC either cos it's on PS and I didn't know CC was out at that time...


Back to the topic... If it's the Nu... We defeated a Nu in ancient time though @@...
...defeated the ENTITY @.@"

Sir_Crono531 - December 30, 2004 03:21 PM (GMT)
yea, i havent played CC either, for some reason i just dont seem to want to play it y? dont know maybe cuz for a sequal its just bleh, but yea...hmm..... anyways, Janus , just to let u know, i understood u there bud B)
and yet i still have to see like 2 or 3 more endings out of what like 7 i think? i dun remember yea im playing CT right know, i had to start the game over cuz my dad did a system restore, which really aggrivated me muchly......yep

Alezunde - December 30, 2004 10:30 PM (GMT)
For some reason I got the impression from CC that the 'entity' was F.A.T.E.
I could be wrong though - it's been a few years since I've played CC.
I'm playing through it again... so I guess I'll be able to post back in a while with clear knowledge of the matter. XD

-Alezunde

WolfPack - January 1, 2005 03:36 AM (GMT)
Well personally, i think they didn't have an idea what the entity was in CT, so in CC they made it some combo of lavos and schalla. FATE battles the entity, which i believe the game sayed was the lavos or something.

Darktiminator - January 6, 2005 01:02 AM (GMT)
Nah, Lots of games have a secret unknown all-powerful entity.

And you never find out until the very last game in the series,
as to who or what this entity is, well at the rate squenix is going we will never know!

well that's just my opinion anyway

Alezunde - January 6, 2005 02:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (WolfPack @ Dec 31 2004, 07:36 PM)
Well personally, i think they didn't have an idea what the entity was in CT, so in CC they made it some combo of lavos and schalla. FATE battles the entity, which i believe the game sayed was the lavos or something.

Yeah... they sort of made up a bunch of random stuff for Chrono Cross. : /
It would have been cooler if they hadn't tried to explain the entity.
Or maybe if they made the idea of the entity more clear, and given it a larger role.

-Alezunde

Bitter Milton - January 6, 2005 03:21 AM (GMT)
I've gotten every ending, and the only time they talk about "the entity" is in the side quest where robo works in the forest and lucca goes back 10 years. After some endings they just say things like, "the entity must be at peace now," but nothing else is revealed. They also seem to talk about it before the final stage of lavos but after the second stage. THey say things like, "he has made all of all culture, we are grown like animals waiting to be slaughtered and harvested., etc" then glenn says, "we doth have free will!" i think killing lavos was like killing god, in a way.

Sir_Crono531 - January 7, 2005 03:31 AM (GMT)
i dont know i still think schala might be this "entity", because of in CT when after you get Robo back from working on Fiona's forest, they had that little meeting, and robo was talking about how that this entity wanted them to see all everything, and that how it wanted to relive its past or something like that, and that this "entity set up all these gates, well why in god's name would lavos set up time gates to lead to his own death? and another thing, schala dissappeeared soo yea i think shes still out there somewheres.

Bitter Milton - January 7, 2005 03:53 AM (GMT)
I've never heard the Nu theory, but the "All life begins with Nu and ends with Nu" passage in the secret room in Enhasa definately supports it.

WolfPack - January 8, 2005 06:33 AM (GMT)
That was one of the main arguments of it. But then it has has the flaw of their being more than one Nu.

Lashiec - January 9, 2005 06:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Janus @ Dec 29 2004, 01:39 AM)
Comon guys, YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THIS, the "entity" that they refer to is Schala , after playing CC you should have guessed it.
Think about it,Lavos played an important rol in the life of this "entity",In the incident inside the black omen everyone ends up being transfered to some other place,you find everyone,exept Schala.
Also remember that the power of lavos suposedly opened gates randomly whenever he was awakewed, with the fusion Lavos-Schala,she was able to use that power on her own benefit , creating gates in diferent time eras so that someone could find out about Lavos and stop him.Of course that she had to do this before being controled by Lavos itself.


i know i have a writting style that could confuse the smartes person you could ever know but...if you read this post carefuly you'll understand what I'm Saying and probably agree with me ;)


Happy Holidays to you all!
And if you see me down your block , you better run , cause I'm as evil as an ant! :P
See ya

P.S.
I think that you guys are smarter than what you have wrote earlier , so please , think it carefuly next time you try to understand something as important as this is ;)
"Be cool to each other and party on!"

Poor Schala... her existance is only to be a pawn of Zeal's plans and a tool of Lavos's actions.. so sad.

BTW, why isn't there a sad smiley???? you know, one with tears streaming down it's face?

Notiz Me - January 9, 2005 08:57 AM (GMT)
I seem to be mistaken, but I always thought that Schala and Magus where the same person.

Schala has been found by Ozie, and he grows up till he thinks he's strong enough to beat Lavos. That's also the reason why he was summoning Lavos when Chrono and the band pop up in his Castle.

But things turn out differently, and he's once again send into a time gate. Back to his own time, just before everything with Lavos started.

Because he already had seen everything happen, as little Schala, he can act as a prophetist (I don't know if this is correct English) and tries to stop Lavos again.

But he turns out to be wrong again, and he decides that he cannot beat Lavos on his own, that's why he cares joining the team.

Actually Magus is a good person, rotten by the influence of Ozie.


I'd very much like to know what you guys think about my theory. :unsure:

Sir_Crono531 - January 9, 2005 02:55 PM (GMT)
1. schala and magus werent the same people. they were brother and sister, hence that Magus was the prophet when he got warped back into 12000 BC, and he was talking about how the black wind howls and all that.
2. Notice that the lil boy (Janus) was caught in a time gate and got taken to 600AD where ozzie was and was raised up there.
Schala just simply dissapeared with Lavos struck so no one knows where she is.
3. Schala is the chick with the pendant that Marle also has. and yes shes a chick.
4Plus, If schala was the one who warped into 600AD, where in blue heavens did magus go?(Janus) so yea that wouldnt make any sence.
5. Schala and Magus are 2 people, never the same, went their own ways, Magus tried to get revenge for his lost sister so he was summoning Lavos in 600AD when the team showed up, and acted as the prophet in 12000 BC, so that he can get close to lavos again to kill him but failed so he joined the team

Do you get it know?

Notiz Me - January 9, 2005 07:30 PM (GMT)
sry, I had mistaken Schala and Janus :unsure:

Lashiec - January 10, 2005 11:56 PM (GMT)
yes, janus and magus are the same person. :D

WolfPack - January 15, 2005 03:55 AM (GMT)
Cause, this is a happy forum!

Lashiec - January 16, 2005 06:26 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (WolfPack @ Jan 15 2005, 03:55 AM)
Cause, this is a happy forum!

:blink: ?

WolfPack - January 17, 2005 02:25 AM (GMT)
wth, i didn't post that.

Marcel - January 17, 2005 09:59 AM (GMT)
Too bad, it was funny as hell :D

BrownMan - January 22, 2005 08:31 PM (GMT)
12 different ending right? please tell me 12...and nothing more :( !

Bitter Milton - January 22, 2005 10:34 PM (GMT)
12 exactly, but depending on what side quests you do and such the endings will differ slightly.

WolfPack - January 29, 2005 02:23 AM (GMT)
Well if you toss all the varibles in, you get like what? 17?

Bitter Milton - January 30, 2005 09:54 PM (GMT)
I dunno, i think you could have more than that.

Lets see, the variables are:

Whether you kill Magus or not.
Whether go to lavos through the bucket or with epoch.
Whether or not you save Luccas mom.

if you can think of more than please tell me.

WolfPack - February 5, 2005 03:58 AM (GMT)
Whether you get chono back or not

So its posssible to end up without crono and magus. Or anyone of those 4 combos.
W C/ W M
W C/ WO M
WO C/ W M
WO C/ WO M

Whether go to lavos through the bucket or with epoch.
Whether or not you save Luccas mom.



ummmm thats it for the main ending if i remember right.

Stoney - February 6, 2005 01:36 AM (GMT)
I don't know about you guys, but I always figured that if you played Norstein Bekkler's games repeatedly and got enough food for Crono's cats, the main ending with the Epoch would be different. After all, why would the cats run away into the time gate if they had plenty of food already?

Unless...they were running away for a different reason. Maybe Crono's mom stepped on their tails or something? Or maybe the cats pulled a 'Garfield' and ate all the surplus food in about 10 minutes? :lol:

The Mango - February 6, 2005 01:58 AM (GMT)
I've never really tried the cat food thing a bunch of times.. I might do that now :o

Marcel - February 7, 2005 02:50 PM (GMT)
Yeah I believe I actually managed to keep the cats fed the entire game (or enaugh anyway) to get a 'better' ending, but it must've been 5 years ago or more by now... :) don't you get the -=(SPOILER ALERT)=-

ending where they float away with them balloons?


-=(end of the actually not so big SPOILER)=-

WolfPack - February 9, 2005 03:58 AM (GMT)
Never did the cat thing... It doesn't effect the out come really does it? Just more cats?

GmMontex03 - February 9, 2005 07:09 PM (GMT)
actually there is a set number of endings, some vary depending on what you did and who you deat lavos with, but mainly what you did. I found this a few years back and dont know the site anymore, but i saved the info.

Normal Ending
This is the basic ending of the game. Beat Lavos at the end of the game via the warp bucket or the Black Omen.

Balloon Ending
A slight variation on the original ending. Travel to 1999 A.D. using the Epoch to get it.

Crono Ending
Beat Lavos using the warp bucket or the Black Omen, but do it while Crono is dead.

Marle Ending
Similar to the Crono Ending, this ending is found by using the Epoch to get to Lavos while Crono is dead.

Note that these four endings can be slightly changed depending on whether or not you killed Magus.


The rest of the endings are found by using the "New Game +" feature and fighting Lavos by entering the Lavos gate (a new gate that appears on Lucca's right telepod) at different points in the game.

Programmers Ending
For this ending, beat Lavos when you first reach the Millennial Fair.

Frog Ending
Defeat Lavos as soon as you get back from 600 A.D.

Nu Ending
This relatively stupid ending can be seen by beating Lavos right after you defeat Heckran near the village of Medina.

New Hero Ending
For this ending you must defeat Lavos immediately after you fight Zombor on the Zenan Bridge.

Character Scenes Ending
Beat Lavos right after you get the Hero Medal from Tata.

Character Stills Ending
This ending is shown if you beat the game after you get back from 65,000,000 B.C.

Frog vs. Magus Ending
To see this one you must beat Lavos after you give the Masamune to Frog in 600 A.D.

Reptite Ending
This end is shown if you do away with Lavos right after your victory over Magus.

Magus vs. Lavos Ending
Defeat Lavos immediately after Azala and the Reptites are history.

Slideshow Ending
As soon as you see Schala open a door with her pendant, go fight Lavos. You must do this at just that time or you'll miss this hard-to-find ending.

There is actually one more ending to the game, which is found in a unique way.

Lavos Ending(not the unique ending)
This is probably the easiest ending to get. Just fight Lavos and lose (not a happy ending)!

WolfPack - February 12, 2005 03:18 AM (GMT)
Mines alittle bit more complete ;) One thing i've noticed, in the game that DOESN'T effect the ending, when it should, is leaving robo at the temple after he plants the forest. If you never go back to pick him up, he still shows up at the ending. Quess they forgot about that one. :lol:





1. CONDITION: Beat Lavos at the beginning of the game, before going
to 600 AD for the first time;
OR defeat Lavos in 12000 BC when he is supposed to kill Crono.
DESCRIPTION: You end up at the End of Time. Here you'll find
a bunch of characters from the game. Talk to each one (they're
actually the development team for Chrono Trigger. Make sure to
enter all 8 pillars to talk to everyone, plus walk off the Epoch
dock to find a couple other, um...people :)
Once you've talked to everyone talk to the guy who looks like
Gaspar and you'll let you through the door that normally leads
to Spekkio's room. Enter the door, talk to the five people in
there, then enjoy probably the fastest credit listing ever.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

2. CONDITION: Defeat Lavos after returning from 600 AD the first time.
DESCRIPTION: You'll end up back at Lucca's telepad invention.
Everyone recognizes Marle as the princess now. When you reach the
bottom of Leene Square, Marle will suggest returning to the castle.
She asks the king what is the matter with the townspeople.
The kings says the found a 400 year old wedding album.
It ends showing a film of Frog and Queen Leene at the Cathedral,
and Marle screaming.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

3. CONDITION: Defeat Lavos after get Robo and going to the End of Time
for the first time.
DESCIPTION: A Nu and a frog-like creature run around while the credits
are displayed. Ends with the above two creatures and a Spekkio-like
creature falling asleep.
VARIATIONS: not likely.

4. CONDITION: Defeat Lavos after returning from 65000000 BC the first
time.
DESCRIPTION: Shows the credits along with pictures of characters
from the game.
VARIATIONS: again, not likely

5. CONDITION: Beat Lavos after defeating Masa & Mune, but before
getting the Hero Medal and going to see Frog.
DESCRIPTION: Starts with Robo appearing in 2300 AD. But since
Lavos was destroyed, the Day of Lavos never happened. Therefore
2300 AD is not in ruins. Robo is in Truce (probably Truce Dome)
right near Leene's Bell. Atropos comes out and bumps into Robo.
Then it shows Robo and Atropos sitting on a cliff looking out
into a valley.
It then switches to 600 AD where Tata the Hero is leaving the Guardia
Castle throne room. He goes to Magus's Castle and when he reaches
him, it turns out to be, not Magus, but Crono, Marle, and Lucca.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

6. CONDITION: Kill Lavos after getting Frog for the second time (after
getting the Masamune fixed.
DESCRIPTION: Starts with all the characters in Lucca's house. Frog
exits the house and goes to Magus's Lair, defeats his 3 henchmen,
and then reaches Magus. Then shows Frog lunging at Magus with
his sword drawn. After that it shows the credits. Ends with
a picture of a cloaked figure standing on top of the dragon
statue that sits on Magus's castle.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

7. CONDITION: Defeat Lavos after defeating Magus in 600 AD.
DESCRIPTION: The beginning of the game is replayed with the
credits rolling. The difference is Crono, his mom, and everyone
else are Reptites :) It seems without your help Ayla was unable
to defeat Azala, so the Reptites were able to take over and
rule the earth.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

8. CONDITION: Defeat Azala in 65000000 BC, then defeat Lavos.
DESCRIPTION: While the credits are shown, scenes of different
locales in the game are shown, all with one or more of the
main characters doing something. Ends with Magus (as the Prophet)
in the Ocean Palace saying he's coming for Lavos.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

9. CONDITION: Defeat Lavos with Crono dead.
DESCRIPTION: Wake up at the End of Time. The pillars of light are
about to close forever. Aylas splits for her own time, as does
Robo and Frog. Finally, Marle and Lucca go back to the present.
Back in 1000 AD, Marle is in the Moonlight Parade. After the
parade go to the top section of Leene Square. From this point
the ending changes depending on a few other conditions (see
variations).
VARIATIONS:
a) If the Epoch is destroyed (ie you flew it into Lavos), you'll
find all the characters waiting for you in the top section of
Leene Square. Try to talk to each of them and they'll run up
to where Lucca's invention is. A bunch of stuff will happen
resulting in everyone but Marle entering a time gate. Take
Marle down to where you'll find the king. Marle will end up
carried away by balloons. After the credits it'll show Marle
running off toward Crono's shadow.
a1) The above will change slightly if you have the C. Trigger
before killing Lavos.
a2) If Magus is alive (ie you had him join your party instead of
killing him) the above will change a little.
B) If the Epoch is not destroyed, you'll only find Lucca waiting for
you in the top section of Leene Square. Follow her up to Lucca's
invention. Lucca says they should dismantle the Epoch, then
a Gate opens and Robo, Ayla, Gaspar, and some guy with long
green hair comes though. Gaspar leaves though the gate, then
Robo and Ayla jump in. The green haired guy starts going towards
the Gate and Marle stop him and asks what's going on. The
green haired guy says the 'time egg' can bring Crono back.
Marle asks the guy who he is and then he jumps into the Gate and
it closes. "Could it have been Frog?" Marle and Lucca wonder.
They then decide to go after them in the Epoch.
The bit with the king and the bell presentation takes place,
then Marle and Lucca take off in the Epoch. Ends with Marle
running towards Crono's shadow like above.
b1) Changes slightly if Magus is alive. Frog is still in the
form of a frog so the bit with Marle and Lucca wondering who
he is doesn't happen.

10. CONDITION: Lose in the fight against Lavos
DESCRIPTION: Witness the destruction that takes place in 1999 AD on
the 'Day of Lavos'.
VARIATIONS: none that I know of

11. CONDITION: Beat Lavos with all the subquests solves and the Black
Omen destoyed.
DESCRIPTION: Crono's stay of execution is cancelled. Marle says he
hasn't done anything and the king drops all charages. Marle's
ancestors and descendants all come out (thanks to Lucca) and
they say how great Crono and company are. The Moonlite Parade
takes place then you are free to travel around the fair grounds.
Go up to where Lucca's invention is and your team will go back
to their own times. What happens next depends on other conditions
(see variations).
If you get this ending you will have the NEW GAME + option
when you reset the game.
VARIATIONS:
a) If you saved Lara (Lucca's mom) she will be standing instead
of sitting.
B) If you didn't let Magus join your party he won't go back to
his own time (obviously).
c) If the Epoch has not been destroyed Crono's mom will chase
Crono's cats into the gate and then it closes. You're then
told to find the king. He reveal Nadia's bell, then Crono,
Marle, and Lucca enter the Epoch to look for Crono's mom.
(The more cats you have the more Crono's mom will chase into
the gate).
c1) If the Epoch is destoryed it ends with Crono helping Marle
place Nadia's bell and Crono & Marle flying away with
some balloons.

GmMontex03 - February 12, 2005 04:23 AM (GMT)
That is a little more complete. I think there is one more ending, but for some reason noone can find it. I've hurd of it, but im not sure how to get it.

WolfPack - February 13, 2005 02:26 AM (GMT)
Whats the ending on?

GmMontex03 - February 13, 2005 05:08 AM (GMT)
i dont know, its there, ive hurd of it, people have said they have got all but that one. im thinking it is one of the ones that we already said, but i could be wrong

Lucid - February 13, 2005 09:49 AM (GMT)
My favorite is the ending with crono dead.

And the most of an effect out of the catfood that I've ever gotten... was a black/purple cat. It's pretty cool, but useless.

WolfPack - February 15, 2005 12:41 AM (GMT)
Alfador? or a cat looking like it?

GmMontex03 - February 15, 2005 03:46 AM (GMT)
If you read the cronology you will find out that the purple cat is cronos last cat.




Hosted for free by InvisionFree