Former Governor admits seeing "The Phoenix Lights" 10 years ago

Just for one instance ^

Are they out there??

:unsure: :ph43r:

Yes, Ess, every country has its own loopy politicians. :lol:

But, that's just one instance and he was a gov. and in the airforce and a lot of other people saw it, too. :unsure:

We are like the tiniest speck of sand on a large beach when it comes to our size in comparison to the universe. I tend to believe there is somthing out there somewhere.

I haven't started wearing a tinfoil hat to protect myself from their mind reading rays yet though. :P

So, you like their mind reaing rays, eh?!?

:ph43r:

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:shrug: As a die-hard SF nut, I'd love it to be true, but it just doesn't seem likely to me.

All I can say is "I don't know."

:shrug: indeed!

:)

"The truth is out there!"

Some would say there wouldn't be much to detect! :P

Those who like to be prepared might want to look here.

:rofl:

I do have a tinfoil hat. It a simple design with small, lady-like horns.

I keep it in my van.

I also once had a balloon hat - mental profilactic

I'd like to place an order for a Chaplin, please!



B)

There's probably another planet--lots of other plantes, even--that have intelligent life.

Unfortunately, the likelihood of being contacted by an alien race seems rather low to me. Somehow they'd have to solve that pesky "can't exceed the speed of light" thing (or go around it) if they planned to take a voyage here, or spend several of our generations doing it.

Are there other forms of life in the universe? My guess is yes.

Have any of those life forms visited earth? As much as I wish it so, my guess is no.

Is there any intelligent life in the universe? Perhaps but not in our solar system.

In closing, I would like to order one of those balloon hat models as seen earlier in this thread please. :devang:

right on

I've heard some people say that the brain is the most complicated object in the universe. That would be incredibly sad if true. Just this lonely rock with filled complicated brain-tissues.

I don't know, I think that life is pretty strange. It's this run-away self-propagating chemical reaction, and it seems exceedingly unlikely. Intelligence also seems pretty unusual, but conditioned on the already strange event of life, I would imagine that it's probably just an eventuality given sufficient time. Intelligence is an evolutionary advantage, and as such I would imagine that if a planet was stable enough to support multi-cellular life (you need a solid rock / liquid planet, fairly narrow temperature range and free of radiation, nutrient-rich atmosphere/ocean, etc.), it would eventually produce something resembling our kind of intelligence.

Of course, the distance argument probably means that we would never see them. I think that the best that we could hope for is a remote probe from a long dead civilization. Still, any artifact of an alien culture would probably have a vast and profound impact on the way that we view ourselves and our priorities as a species.

This pretty much says it.

IMO, the chance we're alone is minuscule, the chance we'll ever know not much higher.

Hey! That would look really cute with my silver jewelry!

I have read some articles which claim the speed of light HAS been exceeded. I make no claims as to the truth or falsehood of these claims.

I just can't see mankind evolving to the point of space travel at warp speeds because our species is far too flawed and will probably self destruct long before achieving that.

:yes:

Google Search brings up this for instance.

There's all sorts of theories about faster than light travel. The one that intrigues me the most is the one related to gravity.

Acceleration due to gravity can be calculated by the simple formula acceleration equals 9.81 meters per second squared, where gravity = Mass times the gravitational constant of the universe divided by radius squared. There is no theoretical limitation on how fast an object will travel given unlimited "falling distance." (and in a vacume to negate terminal velocity resistance) Therefore, to calculate thte distance needed to fall in order to reach the speed of light and beyond, all you have to do is play with the numbers. So it works on paper, but various aspects of relativity tell us that it is not possible in practice.

Simple physics

You're using Newtonian physics. Those laws break down at high speeds and energies.

I'm not a physics person, but I think that the more appropriate formula is:

E = (mc^2)/sqrt(1 - (v^2/c^2))

Where E is the energy of a moving body, m is mass at rest, c is the speed of light, and v is velocity.

We see that if v = 0 (object at rest) that we get the celebrated E = mc^2
However, as v approaches c that sqrt(1 - (v^2/c^2)) approaches 0, and so E approaches infinity. That means that it requires an infinite amount of energy to approach limit speed.

I think there is a counterbalancing effect in that the mass rises as you approach C (from both observers POV). It still doesn't get you past the limit, but using external gravitational acceleration is a good option.

this isn't remotely scientific, but I agree with it:
I once heard it said that the surest sign that there's intelligent life out there, is that it hasn't tried to contact us.

:lol: Too true!

:yes:

Of course we can travel faster than light speed. Our failure to believe in this renders most science fiction futile. :lol: