I am Agamemnon Mustang, Black Cardinal of the Ordo Hereticus, currently residing within The Pacific.

I wish to speak with whomever oversees your foreign affairs concerning one of your ambassadors.

Thank you.

-Agamemnon Mustang
Black Cardinal Lord

Oh nooooos a scarey skull thinghy!!!

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Canada holds no formal diplomatic relations with The Pacific, so I'm not quite sure what ambassador you are talking about. Do you have the right region?

If there is any way I can help you in this matter please don't hesitate to send me a personal message.

ParrrrTay
Minister of Defence, Canada

Yes, I am sure I have the right region. Out of respect, I am not naming the ambassador or the region he's assigned to here.

Thank you for your PM response, I assure you that cabinet will be looking into this matter.

On a point of order, I'd just like to point out that Canada does not currently hold diplomatic relations with either Equilism or The Pacific. Much less am I the Canadian ambassador in Equilism.

Perhaps you should have had an admin (if you can't yourself) remove the "Ambassador from Canada" title.

Agamemnon Mustang, I can categorically assure you that Canada has no formal relations with The People's Republic of The Pacific. We do not hold an Embassy within or Diplomacy halls which, in itself, is testament to not holding relations.

I can, with all certainty, assure you that this was not being spoken on behalf on the Canadian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and that these opinions in no way reflect Canada.

I am, if wanted, willing to converse with yourself and dignitaries of both Equilism, The Pacific and the now recent former Cabinet member to alleviate any tensions that may have been created by these unsanctioned actions.

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From the Cabinet Forum and Canada6's resignation thread:

Yes, I know that The Pacific does not have diplomatic relations with Canada, and I realize now that Canada held no embassy with Equilism. I had assumed Canada6 was representing Canada due to the title he held on the forum "Ambassador from Canada."

However, I have explained to Parrrtay in PM that the issue did not occur in sovereign Pacifica, but I felt compelled to note this person's conduct despite it.

Thankfully in Canada we don't have a history nor have we ever made a point of registering on other forums to complain about other nation's opinions. The NPO has done this twice on our forum.

When we in Canada, have a problem with an opinion, we debate the opinion.

Furthermore this has absolutely nothing to do with Canada. If I had been able to continue as a Cabinet Minister it would still have nothing to do with Canada. My comments in Equilism were made as a resident nation (albeit without official citizenship status) within Equilism and in defence of Equilism's interests. The same way these comments now are being made as a member of Canada, in Canada and in defence of Canada's interests.

In order to clarify the issue, this is what I was vocally opposing in Equilism as a(n aspiring) citizen of Equilism.

1) You are not a citizen of Equilism. Your title labeled you as Ambassador from Canada and you were masked as a visitor. You had no business getting involved in that discussion, especially after myself and Tse Moana asked you to back out. Though I liked how you applied for dual-citizenship after I asked you to leave the thread the first time. Either way, you are no citizen of Equilism, and the fact you hold a nation in Equilism does not make you a defacto citizen.

2) There was no debate with you. You ignored posts you did not agree with and went so far as to defy a senior Equilism official. Sadly, the only way to make you see your place was to make your government aware of your diplomatic misconduct. And the problem wasn't your opinion. The problem was you sticking your nose in a place where it didn't belong, and then ignoring the multiple requests for you to leave.

For there to have been a diplomatic misconduct, there must have first been a diplomat present. I am not presently nor was I at the time of the comments, a diplomat of any kind.

The discussion in question should stay exactly where it is. In Equilism. It's the only place where it actually makes sense to those reading about it. I'm sure however you feel you were mistreated will have no bearing on my reputation here in Canada. The members of Canada do not require your aid in recognizing my strengths and shortcomings, virtues and vices. I've been around here for a while.

Nor have I ever required any assistance from anyone in 'seeing my place'.

Thank you but no thank you.

Feel free to drop by any time you like. Enjoy the Water Cooler. We've spiked it with insane root.

And yet it was you who decided to bring up the discussion.

As I said, perhaps you shouldn't have lead everyone to believe you were an ambassador. You certainly didn't do much to discourage such a line of thought. Will it please you if I change it from diplomatic misconduct to "misconduct of a citizen of Canada in a foreign region?"

And I could careless about your reputation in Canada. I could careless about your reputation anywhere. You aren't important for me to keep up with you. I care about sticking your nose someplace where it doesn't belong.

Obviously not. Perhaps you should invest in some sort of self-help book, or maybe even a tutor. You obviously don't know what to do when a senior official tells you to backoff. I'll give you a hint, it ISN'T keep doing what they say not to do.

May ADMIN have mercy on your soul.

No, I didn't create this thread. You did.

That is a partial and intellectually bleak assessment. I did nothing to encourage it. My comments had nothing to do with any possible diplomatic stance with Canada. It was your assumption possibly fueled by a misleading and incorrect and outdated user title, which had gone until now unnoticed, and is out of my control.

And yet you've opened this thread when it has nothing to do with Canada. Sticking yourself and your personal misgivings with me where they don't belong.

Actually I'm a devout pastafarian.

Except I made no mention of who the "ambassador" was or what the problem was. I took care of that in a PM. It was you who decided to add in the specifics. Nice job.

I didn't say you encouraged it, I said you did nothing to -discourage-. I certainly believed you were a representative of Canada, but I made clear that it was because you continued to hold the title (something you should have had fixed when you weren't in the job anymore).

You are a citizen of Canada, are you not? Then I apologize if I've brought this to the wrong government.

Yes, it involves Canada, why? Because you are a citizen of Canada. Well, more specifically it involves the government of Canada. You are not a citizen of Equilism or else it would have stayed there. You were obviously not going to listen to the Equilism officials, so I had no other choice but to go to your direct superiors. *sighs*


Really, eh? I'll make a note of this region when we're distributing the Holy Missionaries.

Is that a threat?

Not at all.


Unless a Missionary is threatening to Canada?

I believe it is, yes most definitely.

I am a citizen of Canada, but my comments in Equilism have nothing to do with Canada. Much less have they anything to do with the government of Canada. Since when is the government responsible for the free individually expressed opinions of it's region's members?

It's obvious there are issues between us. None of them concern Canadians enough for this to warrant a public discussion. I have no intention of carrying this on any further. I'm going to have to let you have the last word. I'm done with this.

Then I am sorry that you are such a paranoid person.

A government should know if one of its citizens is causing trouble. Since you so blatantly defied a senior Equilism official, I believed that it was pertinent for your government to know of your insolence towards her. It's obvious to me that you weren't going to respect the orders of the senior official.

Besides, I originally made this thread when I believed you were an ambassador. A government definitely should know if one of its ambassadors are not acting properly.

I let you had the last word but I wasn't expecting an insult.

I've been called worse things by better people, frankly. The rest of your post is risible at best.

I think it's time to follow some of your own advice and I quote: "I suggest you wander someplace where you actually have business."

Wasn't really much of an insult. I, therefore, apologize that you believe a missionary is threatening to Canada.

And since your reprimand has been issued by your government and I've thoroughly cleared up your misconceptions, perhaps you are right for once. Hmm.. there's something I thought I'd never say.

Either way, I'll take my leave now. Good day, Canada. And my.. condolences on your recent resignation from the cabinet, Canada6. I hope I didn't have anything to do with it.

:devang:


My ADMIN bless you.

Between my Aunt passing away tragically in a car accident and you... I think it's safe to say you had nothing to do with it.

Get lost. Quickly.

Oh...

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My sincerest apologies. That's what I get for not fully reading the resignation post. I honestly did not realize that a tragedy had occured for you.

You and your family will be in prayers. I am, again, sincerely sorry.

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As much as I'm certain that the NPO would have loved to be responsible for the resignation of a Canadian Minister, that just ain't so. I announced my resignation in the cabinet sub-forum two full days before the controversy in Equilism broke out. I hope that cabinet corroborates this by presenting the time and date that I had resigned in Cabinet. I no longer have access to that information.