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Title: Delegacy Contention
Description: Statement of intent


Parrrrtay - March 5, 2007 03:47 PM (GMT)
Right now I am above 60% of the Delegate's endorsement count. I have no intention on becoming the Delegate of Canada. I will do my best to drop below the 50% mark or leave the region for one update to clear all my endorsements.

Please let me know which action I should take.

Jack_Tarr - March 5, 2007 05:01 PM (GMT)
DON'T LEAVE US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Redundancies - March 5, 2007 08:51 PM (GMT)
Speaking as an individual (and not in my capacity as a Minister), I would advise folks above 50% (who don't want to run) to try to drop endorsements rather than leaving to reset them to 0. I'd feel a hell of a lot better with trusted members of the region having, say, 49% of the PM's endo count than having 0%.

Carbanousa - March 5, 2007 09:09 PM (GMT)
I agree with our esteemed Minister of Justice.
This is a new venture for Canada and as it is early days should be - in some ways - felt as we go.

Ess - March 5, 2007 09:47 PM (GMT)
If a person has more than 60% and has been in Canada and on the forums for a long time and are a trusted member - Shay, who is also MoD - isn't it best to let them have more than 60% as a security for the region?

QUOTE
5. Any nation that states that they are not interested in becoming Delegate yet continues to gain in endorsements above sixty percent of the current Delegate's endorsement count may, according to the Canadian Ejection and Board Suspension Guidelines, be considered a hostile force and immediately be ejected from the region.


:unsure:

Carbanousa - March 6, 2007 12:37 AM (GMT)
Speaketh the truth, dost Ess.

Parrrrtay - March 6, 2007 12:42 AM (GMT)
I just want the members to know that I am above the 60% mark and if any of them feel threatened I will leave to remove my endorsements.
The law requires anyone above 50% to post their intent. I have posted mine.

Ess - March 6, 2007 01:03 AM (GMT)
I am not interested in being delegate.

:no:

Boreal Tundra - March 7, 2007 02:06 AM (GMT)
Since you have no intention of being delegate and you're a trusted member of the region, I would say you shouldn't need to worry. If you get really close and in danger of taking over (or if you accidentally succeed) a quick message to a few of us would get you back under the limit without resetting to 0.

As Ess said, I'd rather have trusted members of the region really close (even 90%+) to the delegacy rather than unknown over 50%.

Ritzistan - April 19, 2007 05:56 PM (GMT)
This is Ritzistan. I've hit 49 endorsements, and as our delegate has 99, I am stating that I am NOT looking at being a delegate. I suport our Delegate, and am glad to finaly be in a region where delegates do not change day by day.

Parrrrtay - April 19, 2007 06:57 PM (GMT)
Ritzistan,
I appreciate you posting here to let Canada know your intentions. I am glad you like it here in Canada and hope to see you posting more and become involved with us here on the forum.

:cananim:

Ess - April 19, 2007 07:00 PM (GMT)
What ^ said! :D


j delight - April 19, 2007 10:08 PM (GMT)
Couldn't someone just leave the UN if the endorsement level was a problem, instead of leaving the region altogether?

Old Ogastein - April 19, 2007 10:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (j delight @ Apr 19 2007, 05:08 PM)
Couldn't someone just leave the UN if the endorsement level was a problem, instead of leaving the region altogether?

yeah, but you don't get ur UN vote. Personally I think leaving the region would be the easiest. However, I'm not close to 60% so I don't know if my view on this issue is too good.

Parrrrtay - April 19, 2007 11:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (j delight @ Apr 19 2007, 05:08 PM)
Couldn't someone just leave the UN if the endorsement level was a problem, instead of leaving the region altogether?

Either way would work

j delight - April 20, 2007 01:56 AM (GMT)
I see. Thanks.

Judith Gap - April 22, 2007 02:43 AM (GMT)
If too many trusted members leave the region to drop below the required number of endorsements, wouldn't that weaken the delegate's endorsement count? (and make the # to reach that percentage lower)

Omnivorous - April 22, 2007 01:55 PM (GMT)
:yes:

But we want that to be a resounding :no: for leaving

I'd think leaving the UN would be better as that way you keep your place in the Listed Nations :P If I hadn't left accidentally I'd be up on the third page :(

Roveria - May 10, 2007 12:02 AM (GMT)
Hello from Roveria!
I'm here responding to e-mail in the game from Almonaster asking if I wanted to try for the delegate or drop some votes. I have to say first off I don't exactly realize what I've having to decide between.
I don't want to rule the region as I have no time to devote to chatting and banning people and the like. Nor do I particularly want to start sending e-mails to people to ask them to withdraw a vote for me.
I've been in Canada quite a long time and as I just checked it looks like I'm about the ninth voter in the list for Carbanousa and around 80+ people came along after that to vote so just a thumbnail estimate I've been here a long time compared to the turnover of players in this region.
I'm also bothered to learn there is a rule about not being allowed to have 50% of the votes of the delegate. That doesn't seem like a very sensible rule or one that is based on anything other than an arbitrary number snatched out of the air. At the moment I have 49 votes and am told to stay at 47. I don't think those 2 votes is a big deal.
So, can I say I want to run for delegate and do nothing and not gain any votes and go back to my life in Canada without anyone checking up on what percentage my votes are of someone else's?

Higsantium - May 10, 2007 04:50 AM (GMT)
I'm relatively new to the region and originally moved here solely on the country's name. I grew to realize that there's a diverse group of people from many nations occupying this great region. The region's name has grown less of importance to me compared to how the region is 'governed' and quality of people that I see here.

After looking over many regions, I've yet to see any that use democracy more than this one. The delegate votes according to member votes on the forum. Expulsions of other nations are discussed. As are the rules running this region.

I would think that a country having 50% of the delegate's endorsement is a little over cautious to ensure our very capable delegate's reign. Carb has 95+ endorsements, so to be safe a 20 endorsement margin should instead be encouraged. Wouldn't a simple message at the Civil headquarters requesting a number of people to withdrawal their endorsements until requester's endorsements reach, for example 70 to 75.

We are a democracy, so if we like our current delegate, we should ensure we keep a healthy distance from our approved delegate's current count.

Again, this is an awesome region and I'm glad to be part of it!

Higs

Parrrrtay - May 10, 2007 11:42 PM (GMT)
Roveria you can read the Delegacy Contention rules here in The Canadian Constitution

QUOTE (The Constitution)
2. Any UN nation that gains fifty percent of the current Delegate's endorsement count shall be notified by the Canadian Minister of Regional Affairs that a statement of intent must be posted on the on the Canadian forum in the Prime Ministers section of the forum.

3. The said nation will receive no less than two personal messages and telegrams in a twenty-four hour period explaining that they must state their intent. If said nation stays below sixty percent of the current Delegate's endorsement count and remains silent or declares their intention, they shall not be ejected.


Canadian Minister of Regional Affairs lets you know at 50% you are getting close to the 60% limit and that a statement of intent is required. Reading Article V - Delegacy Contention will give you a better understanding.

Roveria - May 11, 2007 01:09 AM (GMT)
Ok, that's helpful.

I guess things are fine with Roveria as is then. I'm under 60% and not expecting that to change likely. I'm not lobbying for votes just wanting to be left alone actually.

My nation is working out really well and I have superb in Civil Rights and Political Freedoms and a very healthy economy.

<wag>
Roveria

Parrrrtay - May 11, 2007 05:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Roveria @ May 10 2007, 08:09 PM)
My nation is working out really well and I have superb in Civil Rights and Political Freedoms and a very healthy economy.

:yay:




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