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Title: New resolution at vote
Description: Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act"


Carbanousa - December 27, 2006 06:05 PM (GMT)
There is currently a motion to repeal the resolution "Fair Sentencing Act". If this is passed the resolution "Fair Sentencing Act" will be stricken null and void. The attached poll will be open until Friday December 29th when I will cast my vote based on the result of this poll. Please remember that you can only vote once, no matter how many offsite accounts or nations you may have in Canada.
A proposal to repeal a previously passed resolution

Category: Repeal
Resolution: #180

Proposed by: Imperfectia

Description: UN Resolution #180: Fair Sentencing Act (Category: The Furtherment of Democracy; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The United Nations,

AFFIRMING that due to different circumstances different criminals may warrant different sentences for the same crime and such each case should be judged individually, and;

COMMENDING UN#180 in its attempts to encourage member states to provide oversight to their judicial systems to examine trial and sentencing practices, however;

CONCERNED that the second article gives nations the license to use capital punishment too freely;

CONCERNED that individual states may use capital punishment for ANY offense they so choose including, but not limited to shoplifting, illegal drug possession, trespassing, and adultery;

BELIEVING that an internationally recognized standard practice regarding the use of capital punishment is in every member nation’s best interest in order to keep the peace;

HEREBY repeals UN #180, “Fair Sentencing Act”

The current vote stands at 3,113 for to 2,822 against.

Carbanousa - December 27, 2006 06:11 PM (GMT)
Here is the resolution that being voted on for repeal.
QUOTE (http://www.nationstates.net/88715/page=UN_past_resolutions/start=179)
Fair Sentencing Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Gruenberg
Description: The United Nations,

Reaffirming its intent to ensure for all those accused of criminal acts fair legal proceedings,

Believing that all those tried for criminal acts deserve the right to sentencing by a competent judicial body, whether judge, jury or other, able to consider the specific conditions of the case,

Realizing that in many cases, there may be extenuating circumstances, whereby individuals with similar offences may require different sentences, and therefore full consideration of all relevant factors is needed,

Recognising that different societies treat crime and punishment in different ways, and adopt different attitudes to which sentences may be appropriate:

1. Requests that member nations ensure their legal processes are fair and just;

2. Declares the right of nations to determine for themselves the sentences for violations of laws committed within their jurisdictions;

3. Calls for the creation of independent and accountable bodies capable of overseeing and reviewing sentencing decisions;

4. Recommends that nations devolve sentencing powers to the level most capable of taking into account all relevant considerations.

Votes For: 9,597
Votes Against: 4,066

Implemented: Tue Oct 10 2006

Imperfectia - December 28, 2006 01:46 AM (GMT)
Greetings Canada!

As the author of this resolution and the Prime Minister of a region with whom you have diplomatic realtions with, I just wanted to come by and offer to explain any questions you may have with this repeal attempt. I'll be checking back by soon.

Hope everyone had a merry Christmas or whatever holiday you do or don't celebrate!

~ Imperfectia
UN Delegate of Aberdeen

Slim_TG - December 29, 2006 08:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Imperfectia @ Dec 27 2006, 05:46 PM)
Greetings Canada!

As the author of this resolution and the Prime Minister of a region with whom you have diplomatic realtions with, I just wanted to come by and offer to explain any questions you may have with this repeal attempt.  I'll be checking back by soon. 

Hope everyone had a merry Christmas or whatever holiday you do or don't celebrate!

~ Imperfectia
UN Delegate of Aberdeen

Offer to explain any questions?? If the repeal was so important why wouldn't a discussion be formulated to describe why there was an attempt to repeal the resolution in the first place? Maybe I am just new at this, but why post something like this in our regional forum without substantiation... we need sheep emoticoms.

Aside from that, since when does a regions diplomatic relationship dictate our stance on any policy? I love our democratic method of deciding resolutions :fonz:

For those who haven't done so, vote. The establishment of legal rights rests in the balance here. If you don't know how you want to vote, I would recommend voting against the repeal. When we go to jail for public drunkeness we have more rights and freedoms if this resolution is kept.

Thanks :blush:

Imperfectia - December 29, 2006 01:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Slim_TG @ Dec 29 2006, 03:11 AM)
QUOTE (Imperfectia @ Dec 27 2006, 05:46 PM)
Greetings Canada!

As the author of this resolution and the Prime Minister of a region with whom you have diplomatic realtions with, I just wanted to come by and offer to explain any questions you may have with this repeal attempt.  I'll be checking back by soon. 

Hope everyone had a merry Christmas or whatever holiday you do or don't celebrate!

~ Imperfectia
UN Delegate of Aberdeen

Offer to explain any questions?? If the repeal was so important why wouldn't a discussion be formulated to describe why there was an attempt to repeal the resolution in the first place? Maybe I am just new at this, but why post something like this in our regional forum without substantiation... we need sheep emoticoms.

Aside from that, since when does a regions diplomatic relationship dictate our stance on any policy? I love our democratic method of deciding resolutions :fonz:

For those who haven't done so, vote. The establishment of legal rights rests in the balance here. If you don't know how you want to vote, I would recommend voting against the repeal. When we go to jail for public drunkeness we have more rights and freedoms if this resolution is kept.

Thanks :blush:

First, yes, my appologies if my conductd was out out of order. I was not trying to tell the citizens of this region how to vote, only offer an explaination of my reasoning if they requested one. Again, I was not trying to dictate your region's policy and so refrained from making any arguments in my first post. As to how my action may have looked, again my appologies. :(

As to the "why" of the repeal my reasons were as follows:

1. FSA really only says that nations have the right to sentence criminals as they choose.
2. The "Requests" and "Calls for" in the frist and thrid article CAN be ignored by dictatorial regimes. They are not mandates or requirments, only requests.
3. Since the majority of nations WILL follow those requests, it is with the 5-10% of natisn that will simply ignore the requested oversight by FSA that is of primary concern, leading to possible human rights violations
4. There are plenty of nations who would love to try and draft some UN legislation to prevent arbitray and what most would consider unjust sentencing by these unreasonable nations.
5. However, with FSA on the books, stating that a nation has the right to its own sentencing standards, any resolution that attempts to set any kind of standards is automatically illegal and tossed out of the UN.

That is my reasoning behind this.

Again, thank you Canada for your votes on UN legislation and your concern for the larger international NS community. I also thank you for your time and for the thrid time wish to off my regrets for my perceived meddling.

Happy New years! :yay:
~ Imperfectia

Carbanousa - January 1, 2007 06:06 PM (GMT)
The resolution "Repeal "Fair Sentencing Act"" was defeated 5,517 votes to 5,157.

I cast my vote AGAINST this repeal motion based on the result of this poll.

Thank you to everone who voted.




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