QUOTE (Biyah @ Nov 3 2005, 11:24 AM)
If you have any questions, this is the place to ask!

Before you do though, let me answer some of the basic ones.

1) Yes, we're under martial law
2) No, it will not last forever
3) No, we're not becoming invaders
4) No, we're not going to be a dictatorship
5) No, we were not smoking drugs at the time (I got that five times)
6) All alliances EXCEPT ADN/Nasicournia are under review right now.
7) Yes, we are going to continue our liberation work.
8) No, the articles of martial law havent been released yet, they will be soon. The temp government will be in place shortly. We won't answer specific questions regarding policy -until- they are released

What are you going to do about this issue because well all know this isn't Democratic. This is TWP.

You are not up on current events PJ.

Well ... to be a little more helpful as a Cabinet member, I will say this.

Phil Jackson - I thank you for bringing up your concerns. I am glad to see a member active in questioning what is going on.

As far as your questioning, what happened in TWP was an isolated issue. Once Canadian Cabinet got wind of what was going on, we closed our Embassy with TWP and discussed what we would be doing.

It just so happens that the martial law that TWP was held under was a very short incident that has been rectified since. In fact, things have been so properly remedied that as of this morning, Canada has re-opened our ambassadorial agreement with TWP.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask politely.

I thought he was polite enough...

I wasn't meaning to question his politeness.

Just re-iterating that politeness gets you places.

That is so true. Just because I totally disagree with most of what he says and feel the need to push back (sometimes in my role as MoJ) doesn't mean I don't want him to express himself. Attempts to destabilize the region are of course a whole other matter.

PJ does add a certain amount of spice to the general debate, which can be enjoyable. However, like any spice there are limits as to how much one can handle at a given time but it's usually fun up to that point ;)

I don't the PJ is attempting destabilize the region, but with all bureacracies, change usualy moves slowly.

I'm not sure that he was either. Tough to say, as he never really answered the question he just withdrew.

You know ... frankly this brings up a topic of discussion to me.

Is it really fair or nice of a cabinet member continually dogging someone about something that isn't even known as a fact?

How many times can you say that he was trying to destabilize the region before he gets completely defensive and pissed off at your constant accusations and actually *does* or *tries to do* something to destabilize the region?

Maybe you might want to look over your sentiments and possibly issue an apology for the constant insinuations that seem to be baseless.

I know I personally don't feel comfortable as a regular member, let alone a fellow Cabinet member, when a person holding a power position continually accuses someone of doing something without ANY proof or facts to back it up.

Speculation is TOTALLY different than reality.

First as clearly as I could, I said the matter was closed. Refering to a event that has just recently happened is hardly "continually accuses someone".

I was just echoing your statement that he is free to express his opinion and added that his outlook enlivens the region. Which is basically the opposite of dogging the guy, I was hoping to make him feel less pressured. (and maybe even missed him a tiny bit)

As for an apology, that might have been forth coming if it turned out he was only RPing and he didn't know that by posting in a slighlty different location and manner he could have launched an actual recall. But he has never explained himself.

Was he just playing or was he serious and only backed off when he saw he had little support? I don't know for sure and frankly neither do you. Unless you are Phil. But who knows, I could be Phil and I was really bored and started posting with myself. Or maybe your me, and I just like giving myself a difficult time once in a while. In a vitrual game it is almost all speculation. :P

HB's a bot!

:o

I knew it.

Damn - now that I've been discovered, I'll have to turn off this little toy you call the universe.

If only no one had ever connected the dots.

* reaches over to pull out the power cord.....






man - if only I had a little program that would pop up a completely blank screen after reading this - that would freak people out :)

This sounds just like a RL government.
No one really knowing who anyone really is.

Well, no matter what, I was just provided with 5 minutes of entertainment...so thanks!

Where else can you get five minutes of entertainment for so little expense!?

East Hastin...

*notices that there are minors around*

Nevermind.

Yeah, thanks.....even without the minors :P

What? There is just a really good falafel stand there. :huh:

I'd never be able to spell 'falafe' without looking it up.

Number one i'm not tring to destabalize the region i'm just bring up issue it seems the government does not want to talk about. so i would like if the MOJ would stop this campaign off personal destruction he has launched against me.

Hey I missed you - glad you're back.

I don't claim to have a complete grasp on history but I think it is very rare that a government brings up the topic of removing all it's members with nothing to replace them. Perhaps you can give us an example and while you are at it, perhaps you can share with us how that's a totally benign request.

Where to begin...

1) How is anything I posted "personal"?

2) Where have I called for your "destruction" or even any action against you other than enforcing the rules? (Which is my job after all. Though I'd be happy to stand up against the complete removal of the cabinet even if I wasn't in it.)

3) I think describing my responses to your posts a "campaign" is a bit of a stretch since I've never asked for a particular result other than an explanation if you felt like providing one.

Rock On Phil!

you've stated that i'm tring to distrupt this region, by questioning the government, you also said my actions were an act of treason.

That was in regards to only one action. I have also admitted that it is possible that you have never read our constitution so you didn't really know what you were doing. It could be a form of RP which was my initial reaction.

I listed what I thought might be possible charges since it was (and still is) unclear what you were attempting to do. For the record I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Just in case it's not clear, I will defend the region against any harmful actions intentional or otherwise. In or out of cabinet...

btw -

I've said it and others have said it, questioning the government is not only okay it's desired. No where have I challanged your questions.

At the risk of sounding patronizing, I'm just going to peak in and reveal one observation. My thought on this matter is that PJ is merely a 17 year old boy trying to find a role here.

I suspect that he's chosen the role of "devil's advocate". I'll agree that some of his decisions do not appear to be overly well thought out (i.e.; calling for the entire recall of cabinet on little or no basis only two weeks before scheduled elections, coupled with making an issue out of martial law in another region that ended several weeks ago).

While it is prudent to be vigillant, it is also prudent to be supportive. A responsible opposition character is always healthy. Once he learns the processes in place in this nation (UN polling, etc.), and learns to pick his spots more carefully, PJ may fill a useful opposition role, one that, to be quite honest, has been lacking in this region lately.

Alright ... let's bottom line this, as I am seeing some people like to use their eyes as decoration more than objects to see and experience with.

Phil - the government never talked about this, as during my stint as Acting Minister of Regional Affairs, I had some serious personal issues to deal with and was unable to post a regional report that discussed the TWP issue.

This is absolutely my fault and I accept that, no matter how many people tell me RL things come first. The internet is part of real life the way I look at it, thus it is a responsibility.

The report was posted late and you can find it here.

You may read up on what the Cabinet has done regarding the TWP issue and other issues as well.


Now - as for HB ... I toldja so.

I know you might not think that you're dogging him, but this isn't the first time that you have directly and initially insinuated that someone is doing something to shake up the region/cabinet/way things work and even when things seem fine, you have issues dropping the argument.

I think you quite need to look at some of the recent posts you have made regarding this issue and try and see if you cannot understand where any of this backlash is coming from.

Logistically, as I've said before, if you can't step outside your own mind and see how other people might comprehend the things you say, then there is no point in me ever trying to help you figure it out ... but I really think you need to re-evaluate the way you lead your cabinet position.

All I see out of you is someone with an agenda - and that agenda is to make as much drama as possible.

I just want to say that that is totally out of step with my personal opinion of HB.

420, from my perspective that is way off base.

That's fine. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions.

To me, when someones first and immediate reaction to anything slightly askew is "OH MY GOD - the region is in trouble!" can be more harmful than helpful.

While I definitely do not have any issues with HB as a person, I find his ways of communication and discussing things to be quite off base.

On the one hand there is a grain of truth to what you are saying in that I may be giving PJ more credit than he is due (time will tell).

However, you have knowingly and willfully chosen to remain ignorant of not only PJ's history and pattern of actions but the entire security and intel landscape for Canada. You have referred to these activites as too militaristic. So if you know you don't know the whole story and don't want to know, why would you call me to task on matters you have only limited knowledge of by your own design?

Phil kinda reminds me of mr pipey from the ASE board. only he actualy knows what NS is.

Consider me humbled, effectively put in my place and apologetic for basing accusations off of incomplete knowledge.

You've brought up a really good point and I retract my previous statements.

Cool - thanks - hopefully we can move on...

I think he's confusing HB with me...