Title: A proposal for Canada
DSSSG - October 4, 2004 01:15 PM (GMT)
Hello dear friends. I'm here today as Minister to suggest the following thing :
What Canadians think about joining the Diplomatic Wing of the RLA ?
The RLA is, for the ones that do not know, a political defender alliance. Political because it accept only left-wing regions. By Left-wing regions I mean socialists, communists, leninists, trotskyists, syndicalists, centrists, anarchists. We do not accept Stalinists.
I know that Canada is not so politicaly defined as TPC, but I also know that there are a lot of leftits on these boards.
I know that Canada do not wish to be with any side in the Defenders/Invaders issue but the Diplomatic Wing is not about that !
The purpose of Diplomatic Wing is to "facilitate discussion regarding diplomatic issues facing the world today and to train others to speak about diplomacy and to explain diplomacy to other groups"
Being a member of the Diplomatic Wing do not commit you to take parts of RLA's military actions because you're not a member of the RLA but of the RLA's Diplomatic Wing. It's a diplomatic forum for politics... A very serious and peacefull thing.
I direct you to this thread to read the charter of the Wing :
http://80.60.190.55/rla/index.php?showtopic=361Do not hesitate to post your opinion here, I'm ready to answer to any question !
Thank you,
Minister Soviet Sexy Girls
Checkers McDog - October 4, 2004 06:44 PM (GMT)
I thank you for the offer, but it will be discussed in Cabinet before any decision is finalized. :)
I'll let you know ASAP.
DSSSG - October 4, 2004 09:43 PM (GMT)
I understand. I'm waiting for Cabinet decision ^_^
MrPopo - October 5, 2004 04:42 AM (GMT)
I for one think the idea is sound, so long as TPC doesn't take the opportunity to then write down Canada in its list of "allies". I think Canada should start reaching out to the world, not so much as an ally in any way shape or form, but as a diplomatic third party to mediate dispute and fascillitate discussion.
Then we maintain our neutrality and become a larger world player. It's been suggested before, not sure if it's been discussed.
Carbanousa - October 5, 2004 09:56 AM (GMT)
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I think Canada should start reaching out to the world, not so much as an ally in any way shape or form, but as a diplomatic third party to mediate dispute and fascillitate discussion.
Then we maintain our neutrality and become a larger world player. It's been suggested before, not sure if it's been discussed. |
True impartiality and logic. I agree with MrPopo.
bweezy - October 5, 2004 12:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MrPopo @ Oct 4 2004, 11:42 PM) |
I for one think the idea is sound, so long as TPC doesn't take the opportunity to then write down Canada in its list of "allies". I think Canada should start reaching out to the world, not so much as an ally in any way shape or form, but as a diplomatic third party to mediate dispute and fascillitate discussion.
Then we maintain our neutrality and become a larger world player. It's been suggested before, not sure if it's been discussed. |
This is what I call the "Hudson Bay" doctrine. Hudson Bay was a great nation that left here just before Popo arrived. he was our first MFA, and always believed in diplomacy, but not entangling alliances. (He had a Thomas Jefferson quote about that - can't remember how it goes).
So Popo's view is consistent with our earliest foreign policy - one that I've always liked.
Personally, I'm not crazy about officially joining the RLA - we are not officially left or right wing, and therefore, don't like the idea of joining an exclusively left wing alliance.
However, it would be worthwhile, at the least, to see what kind of cooperative initiatives we could embark upon with the RLA.
Checkers McDog - October 5, 2004 08:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bweezy @ Oct 5 2004, 08:12 AM) |
| This is what I call the "Hudson Bay" doctrine. Hudson Bay was a great nation that left here just before Popo arrived. he was our first MFA, and always believed in diplomacy, but not entangling alliances. (He had a Thomas Jefferson quote about that - can't remember how it goes). |
Yup, loved HB's vision...it can be found
right here. (There's a George Washington quote there....that might be what you were thinking of.)
| QUOTE |
Personally, I'm not crazy about officially joining the RLA - we are not officially left or right wing, and therefore, don't like the idea of joining an exclusively left wing alliance.
However, it would be worthwhile, at the least, to see what kind of cooperative initiatives we could embark upon with the RLA. |
I feel the same. I don't like the idea of joining a group that is solely leftist, but it's still rather enticing seeing as it's a diplomatic venture, not a defensive alliance. (I still need to think about it more...)
DSSSG - October 13, 2004 10:36 PM (GMT)
Bweezy stated in his report that the invitation has been declined. But I've never been informed of such a thing. Is this confirmed by Canadian Government ?
Thank you,
Checkers McDog - October 13, 2004 10:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DSSSG @ Oct 13 2004, 06:36 PM) |
Bweezy stated in his report that the invitation has been declined. But I've never been informed of such a thing. Is this confirmed by Canadian Government ?
Thank you, |
No, it is not. No official decision has been made as of yet.
DSSSG - October 13, 2004 10:57 PM (GMT)
Thank you very much for the fast answer Checkers ^_^
bweezy - October 14, 2004 03:01 AM (GMT)
Oops. Sorry about that - I'll amend that in the ambassador's report - I must have misread the Cabinet Report and assumed a final decision was made. Appologies all around.
Almonaster - October 14, 2004 03:52 AM (GMT)
Firstly, can I stress that TPC and the RLA are far from synonymous. We are charter members of the RLA, and several of our members had a key role in setting up both the original military organisation and the new diplomatic wing. Nonetheless, we are but one of many participants, and the RLA will go its own way with or without TPC.
We had a lot of discussion within TPC while the formation of the diplomatic wing was under way. We felt that there was a need to clearly separate the military functions of the RLA as a defender group from the wider issues affecting relationships between regions. We intended that the wing should be a forum for all those who were prepared to engage in constructive debate.
As exponents of Socialism, we believe the weight of argument is on our side, but unless we talk to those who do not share our beliefs, this will remain unproven. We do not want to be (or to be seen as) an insular left-wing clique. We particularly wanted membership to be open to those who did not want military ties, or who would not consider themselves left-wing.
I obviously cannot answer for the future actions of the RLA, but it would be entirely contrary to my understanding of the function of the diplomatic wing if any claim of alliance were to be made based on participation in the wing.
I hope that you will come along and hear what we and the other participants have to say. I think that fits well with the Hudson Bay doctrine, and would urge you to accept this invitation.