If anyone has a spare UN nation, the NPO leader Francos Spain is attemptnig to take over the North Pacific himself, and they need your help.

I've moved there already, and endorsed Dilber and Galdago. If you can swing it, please do that same to avoid the ascension of a brutal dictator...

"The North Pacific"
or just
"North Pacific"?

Everyone has been ejected to the RR. GB somehow got his UN status back (and kept his 213 endorsements), and will likely remain in power, unless he cedes it to FS. No one else is left in the region with more than 6 endorsements. I've returned home.

I see it's "The"
Sucks nothing could be done.

So what's happening to the home-base of the NPO then (as in The Pacific)?

isnt that worthy of being ejected from the UN? Someone should report him

The pacifics have different rules - since you can't password protect the region, and new nations are always "born", the regions can't be killed off by griefing. As such, a delegate can eject as many people as they want without being punished. If he tried that in a user created region, he'd be deleted.

I just learned that piece of info yesterday, and it has changed my view of whether Canada should have anything to do with any Pacific conflicts, given that the rules are such as to encourage dictatorships in those regions.

I feel, and so does a majority of Australia, that we cannot just stand back and watch as the feeder regions are overtaken.

The fact that dictators cannot willingily evict nations if they were to take ove our regions and the fact that the game mods wish they could act againt Francos and so as user created regions we have little to worry about a take over lasting.

I feel we cannot let innocent nations be caught in this plight. we MUST fight for freedom and democracy.

I think that view is naive. The game mechanics are such that the Pacifics are meant to be auotocratic. There is not use fighting the inevitable. Instead of imposing democracy where it is not likely to flourish, we must instead concentrate and causing individuals to leave the "Wild West" that is the Pacifics, and move to regions such as this one.

fighting for freedom is best left to allowing regions such as ours flourish, at the expense of the Pacifics.

Also, you say the majority of Australians support your view. Care to post the results of any polls which confirm that?

I have to agree with this!

Perhaps the best method of dealing with the Pacifics is a pick and choose system. If the NPO were to allow it, or even if they were not to, Canada should establish an immigration-center type thread in the Pacific and the North Pacific. Half of immigration is knowing what areas are open to immigrants.

At the same time, I believe that regions like the South Pacific, and to a similar extent the East Pacific, are democratic enough to tolerate an open embassy cum immigration center. Furthermore, ways of co-operating with democratic regions, even democratic Pacifics, should be always sought and encouraged.

I understand that Canada's policy to this point has been one of neutrality. We do not sign pacts/agreements that would not offer an obvious benefit to ourselves, or ones that for some reason tie up our resources unnecessarily. This policy is obviously beneficial in that in case of an attack, our 'troops' are home, and can prevent a Francos type take-over. Furthermore, we do not make enemies involuntarily. Finally, we do not stain our reputation in that we do not renege on promises since we do not make promises/alliances.

At first glance, bweezy's proposal of an alliance of democracies, of a powerful, tangible, United Nations is an excellent way to rid ourselves of this either/or option of alliances. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that there are many regions like Canada in NS: democracies with a sizable number of active players. Furthermore, if many regions of this type were to be found, it raises the following question: why not merge/move to one democracy to consolidate the advantages of an alliance? It would be logical to say, from a purely defensive/democratic perspective, that one large non-feeder democracy is preferable to many middle democracies. I believe that this is the ultimate solution, and that Canada must move to become the "democracy of choice."

Although we should seek other democracies to seek co-operation with, our ultimate goal should be to recruit democratically minded members from ALL regions to our region. Just as in real life, there are many Western democracies who co-operate through NATO and the UN Security Council, yet, the United States of America remains the largest, most powerful, democracy of choice in the world. Somewhat ironic, but perhaps the Canada of Nationstates will become the United States of real life.

PS: As a Canadian, who is currently in Boston for the summer, I realize that the United States has many many many limitations as a democracy/country/culture. Personally, I think the USA is eerily becoming a "Gilead" (Margaret Atwood) type state....but for the sake of my above argument, I suppose I was refering to the idea of America that is only really in the imagination: one of a land of freedom, that accepts ALL immigrants.