Title: Question.
Ms. Jack - October 4, 2008 05:50 AM (GMT)
Can I have access to the writing help forum?
lugiablaster - October 4, 2008 05:51 AM (GMT)
Writing help forum? What is it that you need help with?
Ms. Jack - October 4, 2008 05:52 AM (GMT)
I can't, it seems, even with the help I'm getting.
I need help with comma usage. Preferably a long lesson divided into short posts, so that way I can question the sections of it. People are telling me things and trying to help me, its just the fact that my mind does not seem to grasp what they are saying.
lugiablaster - October 4, 2008 06:01 AM (GMT)
Well, I read through your registration just now and noticed that you seem to overuse commas a lot.
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| But it needed more, so she traced along parts of the outfit with red, and white. |
The comma you put after red's unnecessary. Since you're only listing red and white, you don't need the comma. I saw that problem a bit.
You're also trying to put together too many divided thoughts together with commas. One of the ways to avoid this is to either make them into separate sentences, or to create a new sentence with conjunctions.
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| Flyfar was the name of the company, the company which makes billions every year, through plane travel, and through selling their planes. |
For the above part, you're putting commas where they're unnecessary. A correct way of saying what you did would be as followed:
ex. Flyfar was the name of the company. The company which makes billions every year through plane travels and through selling their planes.
Ms. Jack - October 4, 2008 06:07 AM (GMT)
I thought a comma went after you added multiple things. So that rule doesn't apply to two.
And its bad to add divided thoughts into a sentence with commas. I think I'm starting to understand. Is there anything else?
lugiablaster - October 4, 2008 06:11 AM (GMT)
Commas do go after you add multiple things, but only if they're after over two items, like you said.
It's not bad to add divided thought into a sentence with a comma, it's normally good, but when you add too much without it being nicely done, it begins to feel extremely choppy. There technically is no rule on how many commas you use in a sentence, but just make sure it flows well. You don't need a comma after every single thought. I have no idea if that made any sense...
Ms. Jack - October 4, 2008 06:17 AM (GMT)
So your saying add divided thoughts sparingly.
And that you don't always have to use commas?
lugiablaster - October 4, 2008 06:23 AM (GMT)
1. Well, it depends on what you mean by divided thoughts. If you mean appositives, words or phrases that describe the noun it follows, then those are fine.
2. In your case, you're just adding too many commas into places where you don't need them. Like the sentence I previously mentioned, you didn't even need two of those commas.
Ms. Jack - October 4, 2008 06:26 AM (GMT)
Is it okay to add commas before and? I'm not sure on the rules of commas as my school is a terrible one.
lugiablaster - October 4, 2008 06:31 AM (GMT)
This will, again, be something that depends completely on the situation. In lists, you're suppose to.
"I bought apples, bananas, and oranges."
There, since it's a list of three, you add the comma before and.
"Lately, I've been needing more sleep and coffee."
There, you don't use the comma because there's only two things.
There are also more complicated examples involving "and" without lists.