Title: Yay, i have linux...
Description: ...need an ide!
IllegalEnzyme - May 9, 2005 09:38 AM (GMT)
i've finally managed to persuade my dad to let me load linux onto our family comp, so yesterday i installed mandriva special edition 2005, everything seems to work (except my modem which isn't compatible, d'oh!) and i can boot windows or linux, however i need a good C++ IDE, preferably one which doesn't need any extra libraries or compilation. Can anyone help?
Thanx IE
Nintendofreak88 - May 9, 2005 11:36 AM (GMT)
Well, you should try command line compilation with gcc and g++. It's easy and fun. But if you reaaaaaaaaaaally have to have an ide check out kdevelop (check if its on your system first; some distros come with it.)
IllegalEnzyme - May 10, 2005 08:31 AM (GMT)
i don't think i have it, but i've found the source and some compilation instructions so i'll have a go at compiling it.
dorto - May 13, 2005 04:50 PM (GMT)
you can also try anjuta. its always better if you select them at installation stage.
i too would recommed to learn to use emacs as an IDE with gcc, gdb, cvs etc used behind-the-scenes, especially if you have long term plans with C/C++ development on GNU/Linux.
if you can install java runtime in GNU/Linux, then Eclipse IDE is an excellent choice, nothing can beat it, not even emacs.
IllegalEnzyme - May 17, 2005 09:12 AM (GMT)
i tried anjuta but the home page wouldn't load (not a good start) however i've NF88's advice and taken up command line compilation using g++ i'm also using qmake to write makefiles from .pro files, NF88 was right it is fun!
Nintendofreak88 - May 17, 2005 11:46 AM (GMT)
See, I told ya it was fun! :D
IllegalEnzyme - May 19, 2005 01:34 PM (GMT)
you were most definately right,
also qmake rocks cos i was scared of writing my own makefiles.
Muphin - July 10, 2005 04:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (IllegalEnzyme @ May 9 2005, 09:38 AM) |
| i installed mandriva special edition 2005 |
Well theres your problem!
Mandriva, suse, fedora, they are all wannabe windows distros............. No security, you can't choose what you want to install, no manually set compiler options, no USE flags, and ohhhh the rpm files, horrible.
Switch to a distro that lets
you make your installation.
The greatest Distro Ever(I don't wanna sound like an advertisement or anything ;) I just hate mandrake)
Ch4r - July 10, 2005 10:14 PM (GMT)
Linux isn't secure out of the box, but a Mandrake system can be secured just as well as a Gentoo, Slackware, or Debian system.
USE flags are a Gentoo-specific concept, are they not? There are good distros out there that don't have USE flags.
Mandrake actually isn't a bad distro for someone who's fairly new to Linux and doesn't want to spend 1+ day(s) installing and configuring an OS. I tend to recommend Slackware for Linux-newbies, but Mandrake is fine for someone wanting an easy transition from Windows to *nix. I wouldn't necessarily rush a user into a tedious Gentoo installation, although I myself am a big Gentoo fan and user.
-Ch4r
IllegalEnzyme - July 11, 2005 11:55 AM (GMT)
i switched from mandrake to ubuntu recently - i decided i didn't like mandrake, i thought about gentoo but got scarded by the install process, lol!
Ch4r - July 12, 2005 03:00 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (IllegalEnzyme @ Jul 11 2005, 11:55 AM) |
| i switched from mandrake to ubuntu recently - i decided i didn't like mandrake, i thought about gentoo but got scarded by the install process, lol! |
Bah, don't be intimidated by it. It's just long and tedious, but it's worth it!
-Ch4r
IllegalEnzyme - July 12, 2005 10:58 AM (GMT)
possibly but i havn't got time yet
nontitle - July 12, 2005 08:01 PM (GMT)
Actually ALL Linux Distros Are Secure... at least compared to windows
Ch4r - July 17, 2005 11:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nontitle @ Jul 12 2005, 08:01 PM) |
| Actually ALL Linux Distros Are Secure... at least compared to windows |
Linux systems aren't secure out of the box, and if you don't keep your system updated and put a little effort into securing it, it won't be secure. It's as simple as that, and the same concept holds true no matter what OS you're on.
-Ch4r
IllegalEnzyme - July 19, 2005 12:09 PM (GMT)
I think what he means is they are more resiliant to viruses, mainly cos noone makes viruses that run on linux!
Gmakermaniac!!! - July 26, 2005 03:32 PM (GMT)
You would need to be signed on as 'root' for a virus to be able to do 'root' things right?
(side note) I wouldn't suggest Ubuntu because (as I've heared, never checked up on it though) it doean't come with GCC(!) I like slackware. It would be awesome if I had net in there, I'd never use windows again.
C00L - July 26, 2005 06:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gmakermaniac!!! @ Jul 26 2005, 10:32 AM) |
| You would need to be signed on as 'root' for a virus to be able to do 'root' things right? |
I am guessing so, unless it somehow knew your root password, or found some exploit in the system
myork - July 26, 2005 06:43 PM (GMT)
No.
Do a google on "Root Kit"
Incubator - July 27, 2005 07:07 AM (GMT)
http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.htmlhere you go, excelent tool, use it myself to check if my system has any vulnerablities
IllegalEnzyme - July 27, 2005 01:50 PM (GMT)
ubuntu does come with gcc, but it isn't ready installed you install it from the disk using synaptic
C-Man - July 27, 2005 02:15 PM (GMT)
damn i didn't know that , unbuntu might stil have a chance then :P
does it have xmms too ?
IllegalEnzyme - July 28, 2005 07:06 AM (GMT)
C-Man - July 28, 2005 07:14 AM (GMT)
X MultiMedia System it's kind of winamp clone for XWindows
IllegalEnzyme - July 28, 2005 07:21 AM (GMT)
i don't know, probably.
edit: it will be in the ubuntu repository if its not included
JPatrick - August 20, 2005 12:18 PM (GMT)
Ubuntu does have XMMS - but you first you must do this, tho I prefer amaroK :P :
http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositoriesI use KDevelop3 for all my coding. And the command line for compiling.
I find
Kubuntu nicer :D
Grassturtle - December 4, 2005 05:04 AM (GMT)
Does anyone have any suggestions about what to start c++ programing with and please try and keep the tech jargin to a min.
Grassturtle - December 4, 2005 05:08 AM (GMT)
FYI = i started origanally with mandrakes linux redhat 7.2 and c++ for dummies and that is not a good combonation.Mandrake installs easy as eating your favorite pie but there was no support outside of linux systems and i couldnot get the compiler to work...
Rmstn1580 - December 6, 2005 03:41 AM (GMT)
Illegal Enzyme, GIVE ME YOUR LINUX. I'll give you a biscuit? :)