I propose to create a Security Council of nations from all over the Balkans to join and discuss and control matters of security.

We realize there are principles in place, and there is the confederacy, but there is no regionwide enforcement agency of these principles. What i propose how this council would work

1. 7 nations that are elected and that have veto power and sit on the head of the council (to create permanent, prominent members much like the UN)
2. unlimited number of nations without veto power and have to get re-elected every 4 months real time, can also sit on the security council.
3. All requests to move troops and send forces and such actions must be passed by the security council votes
4. Matters of security such as sudden increases in nuclear weapon production in certain nations can be reviewed and enforced, like telling the nation to cut down on certain weapons production and such matters of regional security.
5. Control a significant armed force, with soldiers from every nation to leagally move in and contain and control civil unrest, and hostile or terrorist actions if needed.


This is my proposal, i seriously wish this would happen, so nations aren't left to their own devices, and prevent misconduct and re-enforce the principles of this region. I know there is the confederacy but they only deal with confederate nations and sure nations each submit troops if they want too, but its un-organized as no one is commanding all those troops and co-ordinating the actions properly and co-ordinating authorized relief actions. I hope this organization can be put into place and not just leave it up to an honor system of having nations promise they wont do anything bad, but having something concrete and active i think is a good step in complete regional security. Thanks, this has been my proposal.

Excellencies: I note with alarm that two nations collapsed. Zahumlje was prepared for the collapse of Spaghetti-O, and the government has acted immediately to move in humanitarian aid and security forces to make sure that things stay calm. The government of Zahumlje is now at it's limit for foreign involvements. Some work in relief has been done by local voluntary and non governmental associations, particularly in Perussia, but between Perussia, the Land of the Alans and Spagetti-O the capacities of Zahumlje are at their limits. Someone else needs to step in in the situation in Good Morality.
It is to be hoped that other Nations are not in an unstable status.
Best Wishes
Dr. Nura Hodzic
Interim Chair BAHHB


It is situations liek this that the UBN (United Balkan NAtions) security council can help prevent. It will ease the economies of nations and government relief spending as it is controlled by a semi-independant body, not leaving all the work to one nation, thus relieving it and not pushing hte nation to its limits, it willl also substancially increase the amount of relief workers and foerign aid available while not taxing the individual governments. also it will have a formidable force in terrorist situations and heated tensions, not relying on a simple request or plea for other nations to help out. I think this is a good idea and is in best interests of the region to put this organization into effect.

Excellencies: This is not a bad idea actually, I think it may have been tried in the past without much sucess. My own Nation of Zahumlje has been somewhat involved in the past with ad-hoc military peacekeeping, Edessia is not the first Nation to propose such an idea. This is not the appropriate venue for this discussion, because BAHHB deals directly with housing and direct relief in various circumstances. The best thing is to start a discussion in General Assembly a seperate discussion. I'm sure in view of the changes in Edessia, you'd get at least fair discussion. Baseing it on the Security Council is not at all a bad idea.
Regards
Nora Hodzic
Interim Chair
BAHHB

oh thanks, ill definately inquire about that alter in the General Assembly, but one thing id like to know, it looks as if Edessia has been elimanated, although our tournament record is 1-0-1 (1 win, 0 ties, 1 loss), it doesnt make much sense, or are those the teams that have adnaved to next week? and ill be notifyed for the week later?

The "security council" proposal is worthy of region-wide discussion and this topic will be moved to General Assembly.

good to hear, thanks for moving it for me.

I have another small request to make, and that is regarding the fact that im going on vacation on the 22nd. Thats on sunday, this sunday. I wont be back until the 30th, but then i have business to take care of for a while after i return, then on Tuesday i should be able to get on a for a little bit. Can we resume discussion on the UBN security council on Tuesday the 31st of Augest? Thank you for reading my post.

The Queen of Everlasting snow thinks it's a good idea the creation of a UBN security council, so when the talks will be resumed op the 31th, we like to join in them.

ah good to know havent heard from you Everlasting Snow in a long time.

Excellencies; This was one previous mention of such a concept.. not sure if yevgenistan is still existant as a Nation but here is the discussion anyway.

http://invisionfree.com/forums/Balkanic_Un...p?showtopic=528

Regards
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister Zahumlje

i dont know.i left the nationstates UN for the simple fact i didnt liek a bunch of nations telling other little ones what to do with their country. i think that if a real crisis ever evolved enough nations would be able to send aid or whatever to help in whatever the situation is. even if one nation invaded another enough other nations would come to its aid that it woudl jsut be silly. as of right now i jsut think another council or membership or board or group of leaders is jsut pointless and frivilous. thank you.

Excellencies: In a certain sense CKIJ, you are correct. In this region it seems that if there is a Real Problem people do jump in and do something. Personally I can think of only one instance when this did not go at all right. That is not a bad avrage, all things considered.
1. Arguments for such an organization have been well articulated recently and in the past, arguments against have mostly been on grounds of preserving National Sovreignty, which is essentially Zahumlje's primary objection.2. A secondary objection is the process of mobilizing a joint effort can get VERY cumbersome. The U.N. is very cumbersome, to the point of often being useless. While I think this is less likely on a regional basis, it's not impossible.
Where Zahumlje is in favor is that let's face it, peace keeping does in fact become necessary. No one nation should bear the entire burden, no small group of nations either, for a couple reasons, 1. A nation could be bled dry and over-run with refugees while taking on peace-keeping. 2. NO ONE seems to consider this one...If a nation is not bled dry, and integrates the refugees well, then what happens is that nation can become a real power broker and potentially upset the balance of power. 3. Unilateral action isn't brilliant just on G.P. 4. A nation which ends up doing most of the intervening can become hated. Better to have a joint effort.
5. Zahumlje has found sensitivity to ethnic sensibilities and tensions to be a key factor in successful peace -keeping and humanitarian relief operations. A joint effort is more likely to result in a sensitivity to these issues.
So like my esteemed ancestor, I must say 'You are right!' 'You are right' 'You are right'.
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister Zahumlje

A security council without military forces will be powerless. One of the major problems with organizations like the UN is that most nations are not inclined to have their military serve under the command of foreign officers. At the same time, emergency situations require unity of command in order to be successful. Unless this question can be answered in a manner acceptable to the majority of Balkan nations, this proposal will never suceed. Past humanitarian efforts have been extremely uncoordinated with the forces of each nation acting independently. One solution would be to have rotating command of the peacekeeping forces with willing nations contributing forces for a set period of time. We in Srpska Kosovo are willing to be included in the ongoing dialogue concerning the creation of a regional Security Council.

Sincerely,
President Karonovic

Excellencies: That is a good proposal from Srpska Kosovo and the reasoning behind it makes sense. Zahumlje is glad to see Srpska Kosovo involved in the discussion.
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister Zahumlje

Excellencies: I am concerned that the discussion of a UBN Security Council has stagnated. We think that the issue should be moved forward.
So I am asking which nations would like to be directly involved, and what precisely can each nation contribute, militarily.
Humanitarian aspects need to be the concern of BAHHB or the Bank for Reconstruction.
This agency should be solely concerned with peace- keeping and policeing operations.
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Ministry
Zahumlje

The FDR of The Bulgarite would like to be directly involved in the creation of a UBN Security Council. As for what we can contrbute, it depends on the numbers that would be agreed upon when the Council is officialy created. We are ready to contribute all the forces that the Council would request, as long as they are within reasonable numbers.

Excellencies: One idea that could be tried is a sort of Joint Chiefs of Staff, with comand authority to rotate at two year intervals. The actual forces could be specially recruited in each Nation of the Balkans for three years service contract and would be under DIRECT UBN Security Council command rather than under comand of individual Nation. The reason for having them under direct UBN command instead of having them under the command of their nation of origin is to avoid several difficulties the U.N. faces.
1. Timely deployment.
2. Command responsibility conflicts between Nations who are not getting along well just at the time that forces may be needed.
3. It would come the closest to guarenteeing total objectivity and neutrality
4. This concept would allow for much more uniformity of training and equipment.
5. Each Member Nation would contribute equipment, in good condition out of it's own available surplus,
6. Each Nation would make available facilities to recruit personel .
7. Each Nation would if necessary place exceptions to any prohibitions to serving in a foreign military force specifically for the UBN Peace Keeping Forces.
8. No Nation will actually be contributing directly from it's own military forces designated for national self defense.
I think this will result in greater responsiveness, flexibility and neutrality.
I am gratified to see the willingness of our neighbor Srpska Kosovo to be helpful, it is my hope that other Nations besides Slavpo, Edessia, and Srpska Kosovo will be willing to join in.
Regards
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister
Zahumlje

Although myself and my nation have only recently become a member of this region, I believe that a unified security force would provide everyone with the ability to feel safe and be assured that help is available.

Gurich would be happy to send military forces on rotation to serve in such a force, regardless of the command structure. Due to our compulsory military service, we have more than enough troops to spare for such an endeavour.

The Republic of Srpska Kosovo would like to thank all the nations that have expressed interest in the formation of a UBN Security Council. In response to the points brought to our attention by Zahumlje, Srpska Kosovo has several concerns.

1. Recruiting individual personell instead of accepting entire units from member nations would not be effective. These new recruits would have to be trained ( a minimum 6 month process in our opinion) while existing units are available for immediate deployment. Secondly, utilizing existing units guarantees unit cohesion and effectiveness. (Srpska Kosovo is prepared commit 1 brigade (approx. 5000 men) to serve 12 months)

2. Units should be assigned to 12 month periods of duty instead of 3 years.

3. A Security Council consisting of appointees from member nations is a good idea, but a single Military Operations Commander should be elected to serve on a rotating basis (perhaps a period of 2 or 3 months real time). The Security Council would be responsible for deciding when and where troops were deployed while the Military Operations Commander would actually command all forces deployed. (And be responsible for RPing the operation and posting updates.)

4. The Security Council should be known as the BSC (Balkans Security Council) and the military branch should be known as BaSeFor (Balkans Security Force).

5. BaSeFor will need transport aircraft, helicopters, medical, transport, communications, military police, and civil affairs units. These specialized units are arguably more important than traditional armored or infantry units. These requirements should be considered as nations consider providing troops.

These points are not meant to appear critical of Zahumlje or any other proposals. Please consider them. We look forward to continuing to work with our neighbors in order to secure a more prosperous future for all the Balkans.

- Dragan Karonovic, President of the Republic of Srpska Kosovo

The Historical Empire of Ancient Races' Airforce, strongest part of our armed forces, would be happy to provide militar assistance to the UBN Security Council!

Ecellencies: Several of the points that Srpska Kosovo raised are well taken. This is a very rough draft, put out to get the discussion moving. I still think I'm right that Peacekeepers need to be under BSC command not individual national command. I have a compromise idea, for the time being, until the forces can be properly trained, eaach member nation should contribute forces, according to ability and equipment according to ability. In the mean time an appropriate force can be recruited and trained. The idea behind Zahumlje's proposal is that the Balkans is an area where ethnicity has been a point of cohesion until it is not a point of cohesion. The idea is that a force be not of any one ethnicity, not of any one nation, but trained together. The unit cohesion would come as a result of training and shared experience. I don't know about Srpska Kosovo, but Zahumlje has regiments rather in the British sense, and this usually works well, in fact it has worked well in peace-keeping operations in the past. The idea is to remove too much national identity from this particular force.
Zahumlje has had a lot of experience with peace-keeping, and we know what can go wrong. So these ideas are meant as remedies in the longer run. Believe me we've learned something about unit cohesion over the course of history, and many factors are a basis for unit cohesion. Srpska Kosovo is right that being trained together is one very key factor. Srpska Kosovo is correct that there does need to be a force in place right away.
So it is my proposal that for right now each nation contribute troops from it's own forces,that each nation supply equipment and have these troops ready. that we elect the first Chief of Staff and the other members of the oouncil. The time of service in office is acceptable to Zahumlje at at least. A more careful reading of my previous proposal will show that the principle of rotation is acceptable to Zahumlje, and we have no fundamental objections to the length of time.
The reason we think a three year tour of duty is good is that once the troops are trained we don't want to waste the effort of training these people, too short a term of service is a waste of that effort. Perhaps three years is too long, but it should be longer than a year. perhaps a year and a half with a good 're-up' bonus. Srpska Kosovo is correct that there are many functions such a force must fulfil, civil policeing military policeing, etc. The correct level of training for this is not cheap, but is certainly worthwhile.
So my proposal is we go with Srpska Kosovo's basic proposals for the time being and work towards a force that is not part of any single national force, but is a specific BSC force.
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister
Zahumlje

To the honorable representatives of Zahumlje, what force structure do you propose? Creating a force with enough flexibility and resources to respond to multiple emergencies at the same time may be cost prohibitive. In order to respond to multiple situations a force of 100,000 troops or more will be required. That is a very large army to be sitting around the Balkans. Additionally, several hundred aircraft and ground vehicles will be required. Thus far, four nations have expressed interest in the creation of the BSC and BaSeFor. Srpska Kosovo is neither able nor willing to foot 25% of the bill. We in Srpska Kosovo are beginning to think that the plan as outlined so far, may be overly ambitious to implement. We are not prepared to abandon the issue, but we believe that much more work needs to be done. We encourage all nations of the Balkans to contribute their ideas. Sincerely, - President Karonovic

Overambitios you say? I say not so. My military is willing to immediately front a full devision of our fine military, that is an even 80,000 men, I do not believe it is beyond all possibility that the other nations interested in this arrangement could come together with a total of 20, 000 men, do you?

Do not be amazed by that 80, 000 number, due to our compulsory military service we have a total of 14 divisions in the Army and National guard alone. Gurich has a strong interest in peace and prosperity in our region and is happily willing to sacrifice one fourteenth of our land forces to such a cause.

Troops from our other military branches are of course available, but we are willing to put forward one division immediately.

As for the administration of said organization, Gurich can offer little help there. We will elave that to the more, diplomatic, nations in the region.

Good idea on that the BSC shoudl command the forces not individual nations, conflict of interest may rise,a nd whats the point to a UNIFIED security council if each nation directly commands their forces, that is a staggering number, but seeing as how Gurich is a military oriented state, thats not suprising either. Edessia hasnt been talk much even though we proposed the idea, were really sitting back and watching the neighbouring nations keep talking and watching this evolve, occasionally jutting in to put our 2 cents in. Were doing this because, this is for the region and were letting the region jump in at any moment, i say we should however impose a minimum military presense by each nation to submit a division of at least 12500 which to us is the standard by which most roughly democratic nations hold per divisions. That is also the size of one USMC division, i know the US isn't involved but i liked that number, its significant, yet not to overwhelming, letting even the smallest military powers contribute their piece. As Gurich said, they wanted to put in 80 000, they can put in 80 000, but hopefully no more then 100 000 units of combined corps, such as armor/infantry/air/naval/special things like this, this would be logisitcally quite taxing on the nations, the commanders, and think of the refuelling and resupply costs it would cost the council? if every nation brought to the table what they wanted? and it may also cause security council domination, making more militaristically powerful nations have more influence. Thats my 2 cents.

I do not think that the council should pay for maintenance of said united forces, my proposal is:

1. Troops in the unified force are stationed i ntheir home nations, acting as though they are normal military troops.

2. The forces shoudl be on call for duty in emergencies. If there is trouble in a nation neighbouring, say Gurich, we would be called to send troops to assist there rather than keeping them in a central location.

3. Because of this setup, troops should be under the command of local officers but the head officer (whatever rank that may be) should be under the command of the security council.

This leads to nations being able to put whatever forces they may want on reserve for an emergency as well as keeping any nation from developing too much power due to their military strength, they would only be called to nearby emergencies. so they couldn't dominate. It also alleviates the pain of foreign command and leaves the rotation of troops on call up to the home nation.

I hope these ideas will help us come to a final decision on the matter.

Excellencies: Srpska Kosovo does raise a valid point that it is difficult to have a large military force sitting around the Balkans at any one time. Zahumlje has ended up with a very large army, this is because even though we've stayed away from conscription, people still like the concept of serving their country, and join of their own free will. In Zahumlje a time of service in the military helps a young man on his resume and it's increasingly popular for women to join up too. It's seen as a nice break between secondary school and university, and a nice way to get the money without incuring debts. Many Zahulmljani have religious and philosophical objections to dealing in interest, so the Soldier Stipend comes in very welcome.
Some Balkans nations do have conscription. There are already a lot of large military forces sitting around doing nothing as it is. The idea is that peace keeping could be an alternate form of service, so you'd be from each nation recruiting the most idealistic, willing and fit young people. The conflict of interest thing matters a lot really. We saw that conflict of interest on the part of foreigners made the difficulties of our own Civil War far worse!
So here is what Zahumlje hopes to see
1 a true rapid response force
2 a totally neutral force unaffected by national interest of any one nation.
3 a well equiped force
4 the need that it needs to be capable of responding to more than one emergency at a time is a fact.
I don't think these are unreasonable goals to set. I do not expect they'd be met immediately, but ultimately I do not think them unrealistic. What is unrealistic is to leave things as they are, with no agreed procedure in place.
I do think that there are clear choices for this region, either have unexpected ad-hoc peace keeping operations, do nothing, or do it RIGHT.
It costs to do things right I know, but it costs to ignore the reality that nations fail, and civil disturbances can break out. The unexpected expense to any given nation is bad, and so is the potential for ill feeling if a nation steps in, without a procedure set in place. We've been damn lucky that it hasn't led to war actually.
I'm really glad to see everyone discussing this important issue. In a day or two we can look at what ideas have developed and perhaps the best course of action will reveal itself.

Thanks to all the Nations who are contributing to the discussion!
Regards
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister Zahumlje

Government of Zahumlje: The way I see it, all of the goals you have laid out are easily achievable with my proposal, with perhaps a few small amendments. I shall explain further:

1. By giving the responsibility of response to the nearest nation to the issue we can ensure speedy response due to the nearness of the two nations. Also because the chief officer of each nation's force is commanded by the security council, the council can set standards for readyness and perhaps even perform inspections of forces that are suspected of being unprepared for the call.

2. Once again, since the commanders of the security forces are commanded by the council (or a representative of the council maybe?) they would not be able to participate i na conflict of interest simply because if they did something they were not ordered to do by the council, they are removed from command. Simple. There could also be extra checks on a commanders 'loyalty' to the council with advisors from the council that could, well, spy on the commander.

3. Standards could be set out by the council to the force commanders for equipment that could be inspected regularly by council inspectors.

4. The need to respond to multiple emergencies is solved by using the nearest nation, whoever is nearest sends the force. If the same nation is nearest to 2 emergencies, then the next nearest will take the emergency that started second.

You're right, those aren't unreasonable goals and I think that my proposal for a basis of troop deployment isn't an unreasonable proposal either. I don't know how well it could tie into whatever plan of administration you fine ladies and gentlemen come up with, but it seems to work well in theory.

I hope I have helped to explain myself in more detail and perhaps to help us come to a decision, but I do know that something must be decided upon soon. We see more nations every day falling into bad times, look at all the nations that have fallen apart recently. If we have a better solution for handling such emergencies then perhaps they will not be so severe the next time and the next time and so on.

The Republic of Srpska Kosovo supports the continuing dialogue concerning the formation of the BSC. We believe that the make-up of BaSeFor should reflect approximately equal numbers of personel from each member nation in order to prevent any one particular nation from dominating. We oppose the creation of a trans-national standing military force. We suggest that each nation place one or two brigade size elements (approx. 5,000 to 10,000 men) at the disposal of the BSC. These forces will remain in their respective nations unless called to action by a majority vote of the BSC. They would then serve as integral units of the multinational BaSeFor under the command of a military leader elected by the BSC, yet serving under their own officers within the unit. Our proposal for the BSC chain of command:

1. a nation collapses

2. the BSC convenes and votes to intervene

3. the elected military commander deploys needed forces from those made available (w/o needing to obtain permission from each individual nation as providing the forces in the first place is acceptance of BSC control - the military commander will keep all BSC nations notified via telegram, pm, or forum post and solely post the events of the intervention for the entire region)

4. as soon as a replacement nation is found or the territory is ceded to another Balkans nation, the BSC will order the military commander to return all deployed BaSeFor troops to their respective nations

We believe that this system would be simple, effective and cost-efficient. With continued hopes for peace and prosperity, - President Karonovic

I LIKE that plan. It works well, it's simple, it resolves all of the issues that have been previously discussed, though I'm sure that new issues will arise but then we shall continue discussing. Regardless, I think that this plan is the simplest and most effective of all. I applaud you President Karonovic for your obvious ability to see the simple method of achieving the goals. I sadly lack the same talent. Though in some ways I like to think I do.

A good idea and well done.

I can think of one flaw right away. If we want to have an effective force, we must train the units of this force trained to work together. When will they train if they won't even leave their countries. I think it would be best, if the units are stationed in several key points in order to be able to respond to crisis in every point of our region. Such key points are the far east, west, south and north as well as the centre of the Balkan peninsula and Mala Asia.

In response to the Bulgarite's concerns over unit training, we believe that there are two possible solutions.

1. periodic multi-national training exercises with the units then returning to and remaining in their respective nations

2. selecting several military bases as suggested to station the forces

One concern is the question of how such forces will be transported to areas of need. We would suggest that each member nation be responsible for the deployment and transportation of their own units. We would also like to thank all the nations that are contributing to this ongoing effort. We are hopeful that even more Balkan nations will join in this dialogue. - President Karonovic

I concur with President Karonovic. All nations should provide the logistic support for their own units.

The Shogun will be pelased to provide military to UBN Security Council.
I agree with Srpska Kosovo about the military training and bases.
If the council is in need it can ask The Shogun for help,he will be pleased.

Excellencies: Srpska Kosovo has proposed excellent ideas for the immediate future! The only change I propose is that the unitis be moved around from country to country. Zahumlje can immediately commit two brigades. Because we are such a large nation we are able once things are settled one way or the other in Former Tyrinn, we can contribute a total of two brigades of ground forces and two from ZRAF who can take on transport duties. I think forces should be rotated periodically so that Zahumljani are stationed in say Gurich, Gurich guys are in the Bulgarite, and Srpska Kosovo forces in yet another place. At a minimum of once a year joint training exercises involving a minimum of half the total BSC forces should be conducted. These exercises should bring everyone up to speed on all equipment, procedure and doctrine. The exercises should include things which not only increase the technical competency of the forces, but which increase the cultural competency of the forces. The training should include a lot of social interaction of a non-military nature. That's right, I'm recomending that the troops get to know each other personally. Each nation can do an 'adopt a BSC soldier' dinner, so that the home of a soldier from Zahumlje is familiar to a soldier from say the Bulgarite. This will be very useful in ending the concept of 'foreigness'. It can all be worked into the program.
Srpska Kosovo is right that there are some troops already trained present in the region, we can make them all work together better in the short run by some of the ideas I suggest.
The reason I suggest that troops be moved from nation to nation is to make sure no nation has a conflict of interest in intervening in a neighboring nation. I agree that troops in the nearest nation physically can do the intervening, but it means that say a problem arizes in Srpska Kosovo, it is not Zahumljani who will intervene, but troops who actually come from say Gurich, or if it's a problem in Edessia the troops will come from the land area once known as 'Ice Wolf'. This way no situation between imediate neighbors crops up.
We welcome Daimyo Oda, the Bulgarite and Gurich to this discussion. We thank the other nations who have been participating from the start.
Regards
Imam Hodza Nasrudin

Posting troops in various nations as Zahumlje has suggested has obvious benefits but will also require more organization of the part of the elected BaSeFor commander. (It is my belief that only a nation that will commit the time and energy required to post and roleplay the humanitarian missions should serve as commander. Also, do not get upset when the commander roleplays using your forces - that is part of the sacrifice of contributing troops to a UN like operation. At the same time the commander should be considerate enough not to post something like "Zahumlje brigade suffers 90% casualties in Tyrinn". I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but these are things to consider.) It is my fervent hope that whatever decisions are made concerning the creation of the BSC and BaSeFor will be agreed upon by a consensus of all nations that are willing to contribute ideas, resources, or both. Sincerely, - D. Karonovic

The troop rotation scheme is fine and wonderful IF we can organize such a thing and IF we can afford to play this giant game of musical chairs. Moving troops around costs money. Lodging them in another nation costs money. The benifits are great, our soldiers can come home with stories about other nations, it could bring down general national rivalry among the pea... I mean citizens fof our nations! But there's the IF again.

I really do hope that this can work out. But the IFs are pretty large ones.

Excellencies: We've seen the IFs of NOT trying it. Hej we try it it doesn't work we can do it another way! it costs to respond in any case. It costs whether the troops come from next door or six countries away. I still think it's worth trying at least, because the benefits would be considerable if it works.
The situation in this region in the past was that it functioned fine without any sort of Regional Security Council, well that was then this is now.
We have an unprecidented level of Nations collapseing in this region, too close together, and there are issues, but hej we can always just leave it like it is too. So far we have seen consequences before when someone made allegations about a prior peace keeping mission. You don't want to know how p****d off was the Queen that time. Here Zahumlje did it's best some other country decides that it's not good enough and where was the back up from Zahumlje's friends? Let me tell you...no where!
So for a time Zahumlje did not do peace keeping. Before that Zahumlje and Soviet Colonies (now fallen) both decided enough already. No one nation should have to take that kind of g****! So either lets do this right, have everyone on board, try doing it right, or maybe forget about it and let whatever is going to happen happen.
All this dithering is stupider than any idea that has been come up with. All this dithering can cost lives.
Think about it.
How do we know can it be organized if it is not tried?
Anyway the money the way we look at it in Zahumlje money is like blood, if it stays moving it stays good, if it stays in one place no good!
Regards
Imam Hodza Nasrudin
Foreign Minister Zahumlje

I fully back the general concept of the BSC, it needs to be done and decided fast, I understand that absolutely. But we must also remember that a nation without money kills as many if not more people than a war-torn nation. Think about it. Money IS a concern, we need to consider that if this plan is to carry on into the unforseen future will our nations stil be able to sponsor our soldiers to essentially go on vacation to other nations? It is a cause fo concern, but I agree, we must decide on something NOW. If that means implementing the troop rotation scheme then hey, let's go, if that proves too difficult to support, it can be dropped. But in any case:

Something must be done.

Excellencies: I favor doing the troop rotation now, and arguing details later. Zahumlje can supply space for a base on the coast, that would be smart actually because sea transport is still fairly cheap and in the Adriatic and Mediterranian still relatively cheap. We invite any non neighbor nation to set up there for now. They can intervene anyplace close to Zahumlje, if needed. As far as money goes we Zahumljani really believe that stagnant money is as dangerous as no money. That is perhaps a counter intuitive thing to say but how did Franklin Roosevelt get the U.S. out of the Great Depression? The answer is military spending did it for him, because in Europe WWII broke out. The money spent on the war spread around, because people who worked in the weapons factories had to buy goods and services. Besides the earlier mentioned reasons that Zahumlje has always had a large army is is the reason that whether or not there is a war, military spending tends to boost the economy. Each nation supplying these needs for an international peace keeping force is going to actually come out ahead financially. The soldiers being rotated around are going to buy things and go out once in awhile to have fun, like go to the beach or to taverns or to go hang gliding, and they will spend money. When they are needed they'll be there, and it's all good.
Regards
Imam Hodza Nasrudin

You're on the right track Zahumlje, let's just get the ball rolling and solve any issues we have with the system as we come to em. I have half of the promised division mobilized, that should be more than enough for a rotation.

Be advised that my entire Army branch is on call to assist any nation that needs it in the extreme case that none others are available. I wish to make sure the system, if it fails has something to fall back on. So we are ready for anything.