Title: End of the World
Shawn Michaels - January 31, 2005 11:31 PM (GMT)
I thought it was so funny when I scared my friends in science, though I didn't mean to when I said the end of the world is coming in 2020. I believe this and I told them, "Please don't hate me after I tell you this, and don't blame me if you're scare...Actually, I won't tell you." And they got mad and said I was bluffing so I said bluntly, "The end of the world is coming 2020."
I do believe this by the way. >_> Scientists have been saying it forever! And yes, I'm religious and all but...I'm not saying the whole world is going to be like abolished. It will go down, slowly.
I warn you though, if you get scared easily don't read this. >_> My brother told my family[including me, a-dur!] during dinner so I had no choice. xD I couldn't sleep at all, it's just scary!
Different theories of what will happenThe Climate ChangeI believe in the climate change the most. o_o My other friend was saying how it's true, but is true later, not in our lifetime, but our childrens lifetime.
If that's true, I'm not having kids. xD That's so horrible.
And for those people who don't believe, YES, I'm very gullible.
Satone - February 1, 2005 01:13 AM (GMT)
That's kind of funny.
Even if the world doesn't end in 2020, seven years later, the Earth will come mighty close to one of the Apollo Asteroids, and that could destroy the Earth as well.
By the year 2020, I believe I'll have lived my life to its fullest, simply because I'll be 32 years old.
But then again, the world will have to end some time. If not the Earth, then the human race, and if not the human race, then the Sun.
Sanosuke - February 1, 2005 01:23 AM (GMT)
I saw something similar when I was watching Poiempii
Treya - February 1, 2005 05:21 AM (GMT)
Silly Shaydah. You shouldn't worry about the future because no one knows for sure what will happen in the year 2020. You should just think about the here and now and relax. You're gonna worry yourself to death if you get afraid of silly things like that.
Bill Gates - February 1, 2005 08:43 PM (GMT)
Treya - February 1, 2005 09:28 PM (GMT)
Oh yes and one other thing. Remember the year 2000? I know alot of people were worried about that too. Well we are all still here so these things are just theories that people make up in their attempt to discover "the end of time".
Sanosuke - February 2, 2005 04:12 AM (GMT)
Yeah the whole y2K thing.... what a load..
Kiefer Sutherland - February 2, 2005 08:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Treya @ Feb 2 2005, 05:28 AM) |
| Oh yes and one other thing. Remember the year 2000? I know alot of people were worried about that too. Well we are all still here so these things are just theories that people make up in their attempt to discover "the end of time". |
If you are referring to the Y2K thingy...that didnt apply to humans getting wiped out...that was supposedly a problem with computer software and stuff shorting out because the date would supposedly revert back to 1900 which is before computer technology was even heard of...however, obviously this was utter bullshit...
Quite frankly, so is this...let me explain...
Global Dimming - Lets see here...the guy who discovered this is from...SWITZERLAND!!! Come on people...the country is in an area that gets very little sunlight throughout the year compared to other countries...think about it...if you lived in an area which was either overcast or in night for the majority of the year, would you notice that the sun slightly dims each year...and we're not talking about a reasonable amount here either...the value would be so small that it really wouldnt make much difference...besides...if this claim that the sun's getting brighter is to be believed...well...I'll let you figure that one out...
Supernova - Ok, since when did stars drift? Stars dont drift...if they did there would be no definate clusters or galaxies...because each would be moving...so this balony of a star 'drifting' into Earth millions of years ago is utter hogwash...firstly because of the lack of drifting these stars do, but also, if there was a supernova that occured here, it would have also wiped out Earth as well...or at least a fair chunk of it...
Climate Change - Its called El Nino...and its been around for yonks...they were talking about it back in the 70's...yet nothing has happened...and if it has, then its not been noticable...and quite frankly, I dont think climate change would cause global warfare...also on that point, can someone else see the problem with this quote?
"The report warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a Siberian climate by 2020."
I hope they dont mean the sea is going to rise because of the poles melting...I mean, whoever thought up that theory has to be the biggest moron on the planet...everyone knows that the poles are made of ice...which is simply frozen water...and you dont have to have a degree in rocket science to know that when ice melts in water, it doesnt raise the water level...it decreases it...and if you dont know why then I'll explain it...its due to the ice being denser than water, which means when it melts, it takes up less space...
Nuclear Winter - This is very unlikely unless we get some complete moron in any form of government with nuclear capabilities...and the only countries with such capabilities are the US, Russia and China...Korea has such a pidly amount that it really doesnt matter...anyway, the fact of the matter is...if it does come down to nuclear war, no one will survive to see a Nuclear Winter...both the Russians and the US have enough Nukes to wipe out the world 9 times over or something...so thats a waste of time worrying about...
Doomsday Bug - This is pure speculation...no one should worry about this til it happens...which I doubt will be anytime soon...mainly because we havent heard anything about this virus that removes HIV and AIDS...besides...you'd have to get this 'bug' around the entire world...which isnt exactly easy, even if it is contageous...Im not saying it cant be done...just saying it isnt likely...
Environmental Ruin - Who the hell is this Aaron guy? Why should we believe him? I dont think we should...I mean, first of all, this comment is totally stupid and pointless:
"He claims the last living human is alive today"
Everyone dies...and there will be at least 1 person born tomorrow...or even now for that matter...its a non-sensical comment...I also wonder what he means by the "very near future"...what is that? Like tomorrow? Even if we cut down the trees and stuff, so there is no way to stop pollution and stuff, then it would still take months to take effect...and we're not cutting down the trees are we? No...in fact we're still planting them...we're even in a postition where we have the luxury to argue about WHICH trees we should keep...oh, and the thing about the flies? I think someone has been watching a few too many sci fi movies...
Let me also point out that in the other article, there was no confirmation of any document by any pentagon reperesentatives...also...WTF?
"A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer..."
WTF is that? How the hell did the Observer "obtain" a secret government document? Either its a fabrication or some moron likes leaking shit to the press...
Anywho...believe me or not...but it aint happening anytime soon people...
Shawn Michaels - February 2, 2005 07:53 PM (GMT)
Well, one things for sure. The bananas are going to die out in like 50 years or 100 since they can't reproduce themselves. ^_^
Archangel of Death - February 6, 2005 09:41 AM (GMT)
Nice argument Neo. I fully agree. But a little misinformation needs fixing... for some reason... I guess...
Ice is less dense than water. Thats why it floats. Which supports your statement, so I'm guessing it was just an error.
But I remember hearing that if the polar ice caps melted, sea level would raise about 200 feet... I'll have to look into it, initial thought patterns are suggesting it may have something to do with some of it being on land, and possibly how much floating ice displaces. (Walks off mumbling incoherent physics)
And the US and Russia don't have enough nukes to wipe out the whole world 9 times. Your way off. The US only has enough to do it 22 times and Russia 20 times, IIRC. :rolleyes: :D
One last thing... No! Not the bananas! :(
Kiefer Sutherland - February 6, 2005 01:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Archangel of Death @ Feb 6 2005, 05:41 PM) |
Nice argument Neo. I fully agree. But a little misinformation needs fixing... for some reason... I guess... Ice is less dense than water. Thats why it floats. Which supports your statement, so I'm guessing it was just an error. But I remember hearing that if the polar ice caps melted, sea level would raise about 200 feet... I'll have to look into it, initial thought patterns are suggesting it may have something to do with some of it being on land, and possibly how much floating ice displaces. (Walks off mumbling incoherent physics)
And the US and Russia don't have enough nukes to wipe out the whole world 9 times. Your way off. The US only has enough to do it 22 times and Russia 20 times, IIRC. :rolleyes: :D
One last thing... No! Not the bananas! :( |
Uhh...sorry...something doesnt quite work out here...Ice is a solid correct? Water is a liquid...Solids are ALWAYS denser that liquids due to the molecular construction...there is some reason why ice floats...but it is definately denser than water...which leads me to the point of it being on land...any ice that melts, whether it be on land or not, will always become smaller in volume due to it losing density...and even if it was on land, there would be some that would be absorbed into the ground...unless it was rock...but thats not the point...
Oh...and about the nukes...what the hell ever...you can only destroy something once...so trying to figure out how many times they could destroy it over makes no difference...
And...if banana's cant reproduce, why are they still in existance...if they couldnt then you prolly wouldnt have heard of a banana...
Treya - February 7, 2005 04:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (NEO_SEPHIROTH @ Feb 2 2005, 08:59 AM) |
| If you are referring to the Y2K thingy...that didnt apply to humans getting wiped out...that was supposedly a problem with computer software and stuff shorting out because the date would supposedly revert back to 1900 which is before computer technology was even heard of... |
Thanks. I remember that now, I couldn't remember at first what it was about but the point was it was just a ridiculous theory that was wrong.
All I'm saying is the world will end in its own time, worrying about it is simply pointless.
Metal Sonic - February 8, 2005 03:01 AM (GMT)
I think that the world will end when the sun becomes a red giant...and that is millions of years away. By then, I'd be frozen and regenerated a few dozen times(if the technology is developed)... :rolleyes:
Archangel of Death - February 8, 2005 04:43 AM (GMT)
It is true that solids are normally denser than their liquid state. But when water freezes into ice, it forms a crystalline structure (because its polarized, so it only bonds with other water molecules in a certain way) that actually lowers density when compared to the liquid state at the same temperature. Thats why it floats. Its also why when you freeze water bottles they tend to burst.
Canitoch - March 5, 2005 05:42 AM (GMT)
Um...
the world is goina end some how
we are all goina die anyways..>.>
damian - March 9, 2005 12:08 AM (GMT)
who cares if the world is going to end, that just meens that i should enjoy my self a little more(booze for all)
Blaze - March 10, 2005 02:30 PM (GMT)
I wouldn't mind the world ending in my time,but I would hate to have my children go through something like that. If I'm strong enough,I'm gonna defend my kids from anything life threatening that comes their way. But the whole nuclear winter wont happen, the people of this world have smart people like us,and I know I wouldn't let anyone start launching nukes carelessly. I'm hoping that the world can see until the sun becomes a red giant, 'cause by that time,the human race will be long gone from this planet.
Stairway to Heaven - March 12, 2005 05:21 PM (GMT)
the world ending would be a nice thing to see think about to live to see the end of your species maybe sad but its beutiful seying nature take its coarse to all extents id love to see the end witch is why im thinkin about cryogenic freezing (scientist are very skeptic about it actually working but im goin for it) the end is a wonderfull thing becouse after the end is a new beggining nature talking its coarse i hope the end comes soon couse ill be smiling all the way until im gone dont be wrong ill be scared out of my pants but a good fear
Batman - March 30, 2005 02:02 PM (GMT)
a Good Fear??
The Fact your content with your own demise is not very promising, sure its great that you accept death but its just not something someone at such a young age should consider, live young one, its all you can do right now..
Certainly the end of the world would be quite an amazing sight. Just depends what happens though, Will we destroy ourselves and forfill our destiny or will mother nature step in and eradicate us from the face of the earth. I personally would prefer to live and die before the end of the world, not somefin I'd care to stick around for. I mean once you see it you'll die anyway so its kinda redundant to actually witness it, because whats the use; you can't tell anybody about it once it happens, can't pass on the experience to a younger generation and you wont be able to ponder about it afterwards.
Blaze - March 30, 2005 09:31 PM (GMT)
Hmm,good point. ....I WANNA LIVE!
Hugh Laurie - April 2, 2005 01:08 AM (GMT)
I didn't read into the other entries so I can't really say if my opinion's like that of the others.
Basically, I don't believe in the end of the world. Everyone said year 2000 was the end. Yeah I think I scanned through NEO's explanation that it only applies to computers but isn't that we depend on computers so much as it holds bank records, personal info, travel documents, etc. If we were to lose all this, wouldn't that mean chaos? I know it's unlikely that people will freak out over lost personal info but what about the money? I don't think it's literally we'll be obliterated but something like gradual death. The world will come back as it were 2000 years ago. Well, that's my perception for end of the world and that's how I understood the problem with Y2K.
However, I don't believe it will ever happen. Sheesh. People are easily panicking over what one person said and what one book *cough*bible*cough* without real basis proclaims. It's all rubbish. We should be more aware of our time to die. That's the end of the world for you. It won't be some sort of mass suicide because a comet or asteriod fell. <_<
Kiefer Sutherland - April 2, 2005 07:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Elza @ Apr 2 2005, 09:08 AM) |
| Basically, I don't believe in the end of the world. Everyone said year 2000 was the end. Yeah I think I scanned through NEO's explanation that it only applies to computers but isn't that we depend on computers so much as it holds bank records, personal info, travel documents, etc. If we were to lose all this, wouldn't that mean chaos? I know it's unlikely that people will freak out over lost personal info but what about the money? I don't think it's literally we'll be obliterated but something like gradual death. The world will come back as it were 2000 years ago. Well, that's my perception for end of the world and that's how I understood the problem with Y2K. |
I wasnt trying to point out that the Y2K thing couldnt have been a big disaster...what I was trying to point out was that it was a load of absolute bullshit...it was never going to happen...it was a classic example of the media and big business giving the people something to fear...you can speculate all you want about what could have happened if it did occur, but the simple fact of the matter is, it didnt...and it was a stupid concept in the first place...You would have though that the creators of all electronic equipment that used a clock or calendar or whatever would think that stuff through...and they did...but people were led to believe...to be honest, if anything like that is going to happen, its gunna happen without any prior warning...
Hugh Laurie - April 3, 2005 02:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE ([...Neo_Sephiroth...] @ Apr 2 2005, 07:46 AM) |
| I wasnt trying to point out that the Y2K thing couldnt have been a big disaster...what I was trying to point out was that it was a load of absolute bullshit...it was never going to happen...it was a classic example of the media and big business giving the people something to fear...you can speculate all you want about what could have happened if it did occur, but the simple fact of the matter is, it didnt...and it was a stupid concept in the first place...You would have though that the creators of all electronic equipment that used a clock or calendar or whatever would think that stuff through...and they did...but people were led to believe...to be honest, if anything like that is going to happen, its gunna happen without any prior warning... |
Yes yes. I think I would have known if I actually read your entry but I merely scanned it so I apologize for that. I definitely concur with the fact that it didn't happen and how it was all a ploy to panic people I'll explain what I mean by that in a while - so let me deal with you first. My explanation was merely so I can clarify a few things but if you've already done that in your entry then I apologize again. :blink: So much for laziness.
Anyway, as I was saying about the (Y2K) 'ploy'. I've read/heard from somewhere that this in fact was brought about to really just panic people. I think it was also because so the people's attention is focused elsewhere. Now if I can just remember what the government was trying to get overlooked, I would justify my answer. All I know is, yes indeed, we were so concerned with what might happen if Y2K was real, that we may had missed something. :rolleyes: I'm probably not making much sense but I just thought people would know that - if they don't and if no one has mentioned it. :unsure:
G-Man - April 5, 2005 12:25 AM (GMT)
The world aint gonna end. Mankind is too smart. The majority isn't, but some are. We arn't gonna die, by the end of the world i mean.
(hild_0f_g0d - July 26, 2005 09:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Elza @ Apr 2 2005, 01:08 AM) |
| However, I don't believe it will ever happen. Sheesh. People are easily panicking over what one person said and what one book *cough*bible*cough* without real basis proclaims. It's all rubbish. |
Okay, first, I remember you saying in another topic that you're catholic, in which case aren't your beliefs based on that very same "rubbish" book? Also, The bible has a good bit of historical support, such as outside verification of the facts it states by non- jews/christians, geographical referencing, such as the depth of Jacobs Well, old Jeruselem, the locations of all the cities and the paths taken to journey through them. The bible really has a TON of real basis, much more than other historical books of its age, or even many younger ones.
If, however, you mean the prophecies about the end of the world, roughly fifty different prophecies were fulfilled about Jesus (rather specific ones, too, such as how he would die, where he would be wounded, the nail-holes in his limbs, and where all he would live). Over fifty of the "Apocalyptic Prophecies" (ones dealing with the end of the world) Have been fulfilled in just this last generation. If the book has a trend/habit/history of being right and fulfilling it's prophecies, i'd say it's worth it to trust it, especially when most other theories are just based on short-term observations, as compared to thousands of years.
Shawn Michaels - July 27, 2005 01:47 PM (GMT)
Don't let the bible brainwash you thoroughly though.[brainwash meaning in a good or bad way.] There're some people that take the bible literally, when it really is symbols like 75% of it. Just like prophecies made, like Nostradamus "2 balls of fire will hit a mountain" 9/11. ^_^
Anyway, I do agree though from the bible this ... When the apostles were saying goodbye to Jesus, and asked when he would come back he said that he didn't know, only God knew. So maybe the prophets are going to be wrong. They've been wrong for awhile you know. I've been hearing it's close to the end of the world for hundreds of years. What makes this generation any different?
(hild_0f_g0d - August 8, 2005 02:21 AM (GMT)
Jesus said it wasn't for them to know the hour. later in the bible, in 1 Thessalonians, It says that "The day of the lord will come like a thief in the night...But you, brothers, are not in darkness that this day should surprise you like a thief."
Also, most of the prophecies were in the old testament, made by the same men who prophecied about the coming Messiah. There aren't any recorded false prophecies made by them, and a lot of the prophecies are coming true. It's kinda creepy, really... like "weapons that can turn men to dust" (atomic bombs) and some looser ones like "The people will cry out 'peace and safety',but destruction will come on them suddenly." I think it's something like 48 prohecies have come true in the past 60 years. all of the fulfilled prophecies were just supposed to be warnning signs, like the big orange construction barrells five feet before the collapsed bridge, lol.
Shawn Michaels - August 8, 2005 03:51 PM (GMT)
True, some prophecies have come true, but most haven't... Oh well, we were all going to die anyway, just means we need to go out and do more stuff! ^_^
(hild_0f_g0d - August 9, 2005 02:29 AM (GMT)
I dunno, fifty or so prophecies made hundreds and thousands of years before Jesus coming all being fulfilled in one man still kinda gets me. But heck yeah, we gotta do some serious STUFF-ING! w00t! XP
Bruce Lee - August 9, 2005 12:51 PM (GMT)
Actually, most of the 'prophecies' remind me of those psychic shows that ask who had a father called Jim or Jack. They're very very general and can be put to a lot of situations. When something happens, no doubt somebody looks through all the 'prophecies' and sees which one/s fit the situation best. Like with 9/11, another 'prophecy' that fits to that is "two brothers are torn apart. The third great war will begin when the city is burning" which turned out to be wrong anyway cause the third great war didn't begin :)
Aaaanyway, long story short, anything that says the world will end ain't true, so chill.
(hild_0f_g0d - August 10, 2005 02:33 AM (GMT)
I think the difference between biblical prophets and TV psychics is that the psychics and "I'm talking to the dead" guys have to hedge their prophecies. They are vague and some of them even make two prophecies that are completely contradictory. However, in the bible I've never seen that, and someone would have pointed it out if they were; a lot of people would love to see the Bible disproved, sadly.
The biblical prophets weren't vague, quite the contrary; They said he would be a jew from the tribe of David, which narrows it down to only 1/12 of all the jews, who have a history of being persecuted and are one of the smallest culturally diverse races in the world. Why not pick a common blood, one of the more prolific peoples?
Then they said he would come from three places; Bethlehem, Nazareth, and Egypt. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, lived in Egypt to escape Herod's attempt to kill him, them moved to Nazareth with his family when he was two and was known as Jesus of Nazareth.
Multiple prophets then described exactly where his side would be slit with a sword, killing him, but no bones broken (swords at the time of most of these prophets were way to large and clumsy to manage that, so it was a pretty crazy claim). Then they all told about how his hands and feet would be pierced with nails and he would be hung on a cross. (Again, a totally foreign idea in the prophets' times)
The prophets described how the sun would be darkened when he died, and there are tons of accounts of this happeneing, all from areas so spread apart it couldn't have been an eclipse. They went on to describe about fifty more things that would be part of the Messiah's life, All of them fulfilled in Jesus.
Really, though, the reason I personally trust the bible's prophecies is because I obviously believe in God and am fully convinced Jesus lives, and loves me. I've felt him in my life, so I have no reason to be distrustful of the bible.
Bruce Lee - August 10, 2005 04:16 AM (GMT)
I wasn't really talking about prophecies from the bible but i see your point i guess. However there's really no right and wrong opinions in these debates. If the battle between Science and Religion was won by a side, there wouldn't be any arguements anymore.
Let's just say that if i get into hell (cause it seems like everyone will, if every religion is correct in saying that people not joining their religion go to hell ;)) then i owe you 10 dollars.