Ok i was wondering what everyones opinion on beating kids is? When my parents beat me i swore i`d never do it to my kids.... well, now that i`ve gotten older i still don`t believe in it but i see some kids who need to be beat.

So this is my output on it.
I would only spank my child
I would never hit my child closed handed
I would only do it when my child deserved it, not if it was an accident
I would never go overboard on it

i believe that everyone needs discipline. A lil smack every now and then is good for ya. I hear people always saying spanking is wrong... i say F*@# them. My roomy`s uncle`s child is... well i call her the anti-christ. She is just plain evil, i try to be nice to her and i play with her, then when i stop shes get mad and punches my right in my nuts :( OUCH! I say she deserves a spanking. Her parents just started to spank her, but eveyojne knows its too late, she 6 now and she`s never been spanked, untill recently. Will spanking work for her... i dont think so. i think shes grown too much for spanking to work on her; u need to start early and do it not hard but to get the point across. I guess the only thing for her is to let her mature a lil more and then try to explain to her the difference between good and bad. She was too spoiled and this is what happens.

I was wondering what u all thought on this .

I hate the fact that parents beat their kids....
My GF has that problem with her dad, and i HATE IT :angry:
He gets mad at the smallest thing and calls her out and tells her to just stand there.
And then just goes off, then he kicks the sh*t out of the dog.... and so on and so on..... i cant believe that anyone would want to take out anger on someone younger than them... especially a kid.
Ive never been beatin, and my dad AND mom know that if they hit me once... ill be gone... after i fight back... If i ever really got hit by anyone, it would take a lot of people to make me stop fighting back...

My dad threatens me a lot, but only when he hasnt smoked in a while and/or his sugar is too low (hes a diabetic). but he knows ill leave them if they ever hit me.


O well, thats my veiw on it....

Beating is one thing. Spanking is another. Here's my definitions of them.

Beating: Unnecessarily hitting a child too hard.

Spanking: disciplining a child for bad behavior.

I don't think spanking a kid is bad as long as you aren't like actually hurting them. A little sting isn't going to kill a kid. I got spanked when I was little and I don't hate my parents for it. Beating is child abuse. Spanking is a discipline method...not the same thing in my mind. Some kids do need a spanking but most can be trained with simple time outs.

Personally, I think screaming at a kid is more hurtful than thwackin' 'em.

If I had it my way, I'd rather be slapped, beat, thwacked, punched, whatever..rather than yelled at or called names, etc..

Mental abuse has a longer lasting effect. I know from experience, sadly enough.

My Dad took a belt to me once. Once only, never again. Wanna know why? I was 4, and after 3 whacks with his leather studded police belt, I picked up a fireplace poker and lodged it into his foot, which then went into the wood floor.

Never again did my parents touch me like that. Basically, if the parents know the kid will fight back, they won't do it! Let your parents know that if they attack you, you WILL retaliate!

Threepwood...that sounds like something one bratty kid would do...lol. Not really a good thing to be teaching.


Kt is right. Mental damge can be much more scarring then physical damage can.

my parents didnt spank me much they had different methods...like force feeding me tabasco sauce

hmm, i had mental and physical abuse.. i`d sasy the beating was far worse than the name calling. I was taken away 6 times for child abuse, my parents would whip me with an instention cord, throw me ito glass tables, bust a broom handle on my head... so fourth, when i turned 16 my dad hit me and i hit him back then i ran away and got amancipated.

you`re probably wondering why i never hit them back... well if u see my dad u`ll undeerstand; hes about 350lbs and its not fat. That`s not someone u like pissing off. Why the state ever sent me back... i dont know; we had to see family councelors and all that crap... it doesnt work.

So i`ve lived on my own since i was 16 and i have no regrets, i make just under 6 figures a year and i`ve never gone to college yet. I do what i want when i want and how i want, within reason,

If your asking if i was aa troublesome kid.. No. I was adopted and i was the slave child. My 2 brothers could go out and do what they wanted and i had to clean our house and cook and do laundry. There`s nothing wrong with chores but when I`m the only one doing them while everyone else does what they want... thats a problem. I get along great with my brothers atleast ( not real brothers ) they would always stick up for me.

Because of this i tend to act carelessly but its all fun, the way i see it; i never had a childhood so im having one now. Anywho...... nuff about me ; i could write a book on my life, :lol:

ya it looks like you could, but how do you make just under 6 figures a year with out going to collage or universaty... (most of my family are rich people who went to collage or univercity)

i own my own business and i manage a club. I design websites and make comercials where i live. I never went to college but i went to "The Center Of The Arts" while i was in highschool.... basically its a school for talented people, i went there for website designs, gfx designs, T.V. productions, Theater (hehe this was fun), and photography. I had to audition to get in, but when people see i went there it`s easy for me to get business. I plan to go to college soon tho. I want to work in hollywood for special effects.

wow sounds exactly like what i want to do

@Jadestone: Wow. You could make a book about your life. See, THAT is abuse. I feel so sorry for you now.

ahh, who cares there are far worse cases than me. Besides im doing good. Also i hate it when people feel sry for me. :angry: Now i use my past as a joke for all my friends, everyone who knew me back in the day knew how my parents were, so it`s all a big joke now. :P

Well as long as your happy with yourself. O.k. I don't feel sorry for you anymore. Still though that was a pretty good example of child abuse.

I only believe in spanking. I don't think that beating a kid is right. Beating is too harmful, and I don't approve of it.

I think 99% of the time, spanking is a necessary part of raising a child. However, spanking should only be used as punishment when the child has delibrately done something wrong. Furthermore, while it should be painful, (otherwise there is no deterent), it shouldn't leave a lasting injury on the child.

People who have no creativity in diciplining children go to the old fashioned ideas such spanking, (or if pacifist, timeout). My opinion, yell at the kid. Show the kid who is boss, and dont let them forget it. I am a whole hearted suporter of "grounding" ... so long as it doesn't happen to me, i have way too much to lose.

I a perfect example... GROUNDING WORKS!

xD I believe you. I'm doing a research paper on this, and going to do a persuasive speech so you guys can help me, RIIGHT!?

Anyway, my opinion is it messes up a kid.
I solely believe what this guy said as well. People who have no creativity in disciplining children go to spanking. There're other least ... *violent* ways to do it. xD I don't want to say it's violent because it's not like blood splatters but I think it is. It's violent physically and emotionally.

Anyways, studies show that when a kid is spanked regularly, they believe that they always do mistakes. Thus, their self esteem becomes low. o_O

I was always grounded. ;_; And it worked for me.

Well, just what age group are we talking about, here? I mean, if we're talking school age, then yeah, I can see grounding being acceptable. But if we're talking really young (old enough to understand what's going on, but not old enough to be socially active), what's grounding going to do? I mean, until you're in school, your life pretty much revolves around what your parents are having you do anyway, so grounding is ineffective. I don't think the point of this thread was to say "Spanking should be your primary means of punishment up to the point where the kids move out and go to college.", but rather that spanking a young child IS a valid form of punishment.

Well yeah I'm talking about young kids. xD Who can go to a 17 year old and say "Okay, come over here so I can spank you." Or something.

It is possible to ground young kids for punishment, most can learn from it if you start early. >_> Is spanking valid? Hm...You know what, I don't think so. I'd like to say only for a last resort, but not even. You could make your kid not be so troublesome without laying one finger on them. As a parent, why don't you go that extra step for your child to look for that way if grounding doesn't work[it usually does.] Instead of risking your child's life psychologically. Some children may not be affected, but some are.

Well, I've never been grounded, but I have been spanked, and I would say I turned out fine. Also, most of the kids at the high school I went to were spanked as children, and a lot of them said they were better people for it (this topic came up in one of my English classes).

I'm not a psychology major, so I'm not going to try to refute the psychological claims, but I do find it a little odd that the physical punishment would cause psychological disorders, whereas the psychological punishment supposedly causes none. Then again, for me, I don't think grounding would have been very effective in the first place, since I never DID anything outside the house. I mean, to me, "confined to the house" would have just meant more time for reading.

Then again, as you said, you were grounded as a kid, not spanked. It worked out well for you. Therefore, you conclude that grounding works. I was spanked as a kid, not grounded. It worked out well for me. Therefore, I conclude that spanking works. Further, the people I have talked to about the subject were spanked, and it worked out well for them, so my mind validates my belief further. The people you have talked to about the subject were grounded, and it worked out well for them, so your mind validates your belief further. In this light, I conclude that neither method is necessarily better than the other, and that it depends more on the why, and with what attitude your parents punish you, rather than on the how.

Heh, my best friend's eighteen years old. Will be nineteen in may a month after I hit nineteen. The boy still gets grounded for f***ing up. Infact I determined he's grounded for five months out of a year total for either breaking curfew, underage drinking, backtalking ect. You'd think eighteen years of being told "no" would mean something. Pfft, you take a toy away from a kid it makes him want it back that much more to wave infront of you. You knock him one good and I bet you he thinks "f*** it, it ain't worth it."

I didn't get discplined too much as a kid (hell I got an NES at age two, what the hell do you think I did for most of my life?) but when I did mess up I got grounded, and when I did the same thing twice I got knocked one. And I promise you I didn't mess up a third time.

Now, my mother has ran a daycare for a good twelve years. I personally HATE children. At any age I hate them. Especially the ones now a days whining around about something and slapping at you to get it and no one want's to do any discplining. No spanking, No timeout, No yelling, just a soft and simple "no" and then three hours of hearing the brats hellish voice until they break in to the whiny kid and do what he wants. These are the kids I am so glad I don't put up with, because i'm certain by the end the day the child would no longer exsist.

Pshyical means are always helpful. It's like demonstartions, it's a lot easier to learn something hands on then by reading a manual. (This however should not be applied in nuclear phsyics.)

However, them switches. Those damned things should be outlawed. Anyone see one of them tree's just tear the thing out the ground and burn it. I tell you, those will straigthen you up when nothing else will.

"The Belt"...

My mom denies her ever running around with a belt, but I could've sworn she did because my brother was always like "The belt!!!" And we'd run away. But she never hit us with it.

Anyway, like I said,

I know people who've been spanked and just shrug it off, but there're those others that don't shrug it off. I don't know anyone who's been grounded and was "scarred" though.
But I think that's where my knowledge there ends because maybe there're people that have been scarred from grounding! ^^ And anyways, if there was... There would be a huge percentage difference of who's been hurt being spanked or grounded. Afterall, the question that most people are saying is "Is spanking your children right?" Not "Is grounding your children right?"

I think the reason people ask that question though has less to do with thinking spanking will traumatize their child, and more to do with thinking that spanking equals beating. But as far as scarring kids, I don't believe that spanking, administered properly, can do that. If someone was scarred, and they were spanked while they were young, I would say it was just correlation, and there was some other factor that actually did the scarring. For instance, when the parents spanked the kid, would they make it clear that it was only for what they had done wrong, and that they still loved the child? Would they try it only if scolding once didn't work? I think there are too many factors playing into this to be able to conclusively say "spanking scars kids". To quote the old statistics saying, "correlation does NOT imply causation".