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Mention cigarettes on TV nowadays, and get slapped with a lawsuit

Wtf. Stupid old fogey commercials >.>

Lol.

I can't imagine smoking not being a big deal. Because IT IS. >____> I think I heard somewhere that about 20 people die a minute because of it although it's one of the curable diseases known in our world. Isn't that terrible? You can cure it but people choose not to do anything about it.

Who's to say smoking is not wrong for you? Of course it wasn't a problem 50 yrs ago, the amount of people who died from it wasn't as much as today. :rolleyes:

XDDDDDDDDDd
20 people a minute XD
it's like that "every 5 secends a house is broken into" and my brother count to 5 secends and say dumb ass to the loosers that have been broken into XD

fucking gay comercials and their "every (insert time here) this many people (insert thing here)"

anywho...WTF!?
P.S> sweeeet lawsuits


oh..and i say something....2ed hand smoking is gay
my friend and his weirdo brother have been secend hand smoking all their lives and the only thing differant is that he is..well...HUGE! and his brother is super freeking annoying for his age! ...and nothing true about what they say :P (but he's lucky...like with that 18 inch bass....*still angery*...STUPID 18 INCH!)


^sould shut up

I agree. Its the smokers fault that they are dying and they don't want to quit because they are addicted.

sometimes it's not just beacuse there addicted sometimes they do it beacuse it makes them feel good or happy.... mabey they have a bad family life and smokeing lets them escape from it for a short period of time.... i know this beacuse i used to smoke.... and the majority of my friends do it

The smoking laws are to discourage what has come to be realized as a habit dangerous to one's health. Part of the reason cigaretts are so expensive is the heavy taxes put on them, again in an effort to deterr use by the general public. 50 years ago smoking was no big deal because frankly no one thought it all that harmful. The same went for a lot of things, like smoking marijuana and using lots of table salt. People just didn't know any better.
I think it's kinda good we have them...shows the government is at least doing something responsible.

First thing, i am a smoker.

Personaly i`m sick of all the "Truth" ads and all the anti smoking crap. Smokers know the problems that they inflict on themselves and choose not to listen to it. I used to hate smokers then when i went into the military i picked it up by parting all the time and well now im addicted to it. I`d say its more of a bad habbit than an addiction tho. I dont crave the nicotene (lol terrible speller here) its the puffing on something that gets ya. i`ve tried to quit and i did for 6 months but after you quit its really easy to go back to it. I got started back up on it because of stress, nothing feels like a cig when ur stressed out.

Do i like it? no but i dont care to stop, the way i see it, 10 outta 10 people die, i die my way, wether its cancer a car accident alcohol whatever. People who bash smokers are just kids, and i treat them as such. In reality it doesnt matter what anyone does, smokes or not, and how these kids are whining about second hand smoke.... well the only way that will actually mess you up is if u r around it the majority of the time. Just walking by someone whos smoking is not going to affect ur health. As for "truth" u can tell by the adds these r only kids. They have facts and i cant argue about that, but they handle it so immaturly it makes me laugh when i see them. Its like kids in school, they believe they know everything cus they learned it in school and they like to act how they are gods gift. Then when they stop living off mom and dad they finally realize that,what they thought was the world was far from the truth. I see this concept works with just about everything smoking and alcohol, sofourth. What most people dont realize is that when u see all the effects that are caused by smoking you dont know the history of the smokers (drug problems, family health issues, weak immune systems...) There are people that have smoked for over 50 yrs who are in better health then most 30yr olds....

since when did i decide to write a essay?..... omfg, i cant type anymore, anyways you get my point :lol:

Smoking is a risk as anything in life is. noting u do is good for u, fast food, alcohol, sex, working out even! everything u do has a risk even driving a car, there is no garuntee u will be here tomorrow. Smoking is just an easy target to hit that most people can agree with, next it will be alcohol

just some food for thought

you know man your right, nothing feels better than a cig when your stressed out, but i have been off cigs for about three months now, but let me tell you when you try and get off something like cigs something makes you want to go back to them, like just a couple days after i first quit, i was feeling preaty good about my self, so i asked out a girl i realy realy liked (her and and i were preaty good friends), and she waited a few days to tell me her answer, but the day she chose wasent the best, the day she chose was right before a weekend and that weekend her me and a couple of our friends were spending it in a different town, and take a guess what she told me... she said to me "i am realy sorry but i have to say no... i just dont want to ruin our friendship" god damn that fuc*** pissed me off and to make me more stressed out she told me that she liked me 50-50 you know half as a friend and half more.... but any way enought about my life and back to smokeing... that's what got me started the second time, but eventualy i got off of smokes again and i havent had one... as i said before in three months.

damn my fingers hurt :blink:

no more typing for me

>.< Smoking is one of the worst things you could ever do to your body. You shouldnt mutalate your body, and over time smoking thats what u end up doing.
My dad started smoking when he was 9, 9 FRICKIN YEARS OLD! He hasnt stopped yet. He smokes around me when we go out, but tells me to never tell my mom. Not like she doesnt already knows...... I hate it.... i really do...

Its killed so many people , and is still killing...

Death is Inevitable, so why urge it one even further?
EXPLAIN WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THIS!
and saying that your addicted isnt enough. and peer presure isnt good enough either. Thouroughly explain why people smoke, it makes not sence to me........

havent you read the posts before mine it's not just that your addicted or anything it's that you have a shitty life or your constantly stressed out, or mabey someone you love is dieing or is in great pain but isnt dieing... i think you do it beacuse it's a way to excape the pain, i know i started beacuse i had just got dumped by someone i cared alot about, and it hurt so much that i just thought "what else is there for me to lose" and after my girlfriend dumped me my mom got a desiese that makes you hurt so much that you can barly move, so i started doing it beacuse i needed a way out of my life.. even if it was only for a few miniuts.. but i stoped once i started to put my life back together... but once i got off it something bad happend and it brought me back to it... but i got over that bad thing and got out of smokeing

That's right, kids, just addict yourself to this particular brand of cigarettes, and animated chicks will appear under your arm!

Damian, being stressed isn't really a good excuse. Its still not good for you. (I'm glad you aren't doing it now. And it seems to me that the girl does like you but she's probably afraid or something.)

Jadestone....nevermind.

KageM....riiiiight...lol.

To me, smoking is for the weak people, which causes me to pity them and not be mad at them. ^_^

Wow, I sounded bitchy there but it's true.

There's alot more things you could do with your life though. If everyone smoked because they got hurt everyone in the USA would be smoking.

I'll agree, it is kind of immature to tell those people who smoke every now and then "Smoking is bad for you." Well, DUH. >_> I'm pretty sure the people who're 13-up are aware of what smoking will do to you, so to those people, I don't think you should tell them "Don't smoke." I think they know already. It's like being told how to do addition. For those people who are under 13 though, you should tell them.

So, either way, whoever smokes, I pity them. If they're 13 and down, they just simply didn't know. If they're 13-up, their excuse usually is "I'm stressed." "Family problems." "Family thing" or peer pressure or just something that's avoidable. Or .00000001% of the time is because they were like "What can it do to me anyway." Those are the people that never watch tv or go to school. xD

No flamey me. ;_;

i agree with ya, i`m not saying it was peer pressure or cause of stress, that was after i was addicted to it, i got started when i was drinking... i would rag on people who smoked then i decided hey WTF ill have one, then it became more.... hehe

yeah i`m planning on quiting, i just need something else to do to keep my time, so im waiting on my weightbench then im going to quit... As for the smoking for the weak.... hmm, you can pity them, but they dont deserve it, i dont believe its for weak people, well, maybe some smokers are. I dont see smoking as anything to me, its neither bad or good, i`ve never been turned down cus i smoke, nor have i turned down someone who smoked. As for someone saying smokers are weak ( im not flaming u or is this directed towartds you) i think thats just an excuse for someone who can`t understand the mental process behind the problem, that or they are just way to simpleminded to understand the complex of an addiction. Smokers are weak and almost all smokers i know want to quit, the only ones i`d say are weak are the ones who always try to quit but never can. For the most part id say smokers are ignorant. Me... im ignorent and i know it :P Ill quit soon, i know i can i did b4 its all a mental process, ill do it when i`m ready..... say about 1 week when i get my bench <_<

Before I start, let me just say that this isn't meant to be flaming, but will probably come across as flaming considering the situations I've been in.

As I see it, if you need to rely on something that can eventually kill you to calm your nerves when you're stressed, you have to be pretty weak.

My mom smokes, and it pisses me off. My brother and I used to get on her about it saying "When you die, all you'll have in your will is a lighter and an ashtray."

My dad smokes also. He fell asleep one night with a cigarette in his hand and almost burnt our house down when I was 3. His habits of smoking and drinking caused my mom to kick him out of the house when I was 5, and I haven't seen him for 10 years.

Smoking takes people you love away from you, and smoking also endangers the people around you.

My opinion: If you're gonna be weak and smoke, do it, but stay the hell away from me before I kick the shit out of you for the even deadlier second hand smoke your stress-relieving cigarette is giving off ^^

(Yeah Kt that did sound a bit flamey but I agree with you) I don't believe that smoking means people are weak though. Its usually more of a decision. Alot of people don't want to stop smoking. Some don't even care about their bodies because they feel so hated they don't believe anyone cares about them. This brings about a "No one else cares about my health so why should I" type of attitude.

Hee hee, I agree with you Jadestone.

Saying "Stressed out" may be an excuse but you know what? It's the truth. I actually don't smoke that often, just when I'm really pissed off, awesomly excited and needed to be calmed down, or worried as hell for some reason.

Other than that, not that much at all. O_o

How about we agree to disagree? I know there are a lot of people on here that are really pretty straightedge, and a bunch who aren't. I myself never liked the smell of cigarette smoke and have seen how my mother's bathroom develops a brown film over the paint as time progresses and she smokes more in there. Frankly, it just ain't my thing (same for a bunch of other stuff, but we won't get into that).
I do understand casual smoking. Hell, I do it with caffene. If I'm stressed, Starbucks is there for me. And as long as I don't excede three cups a week, science tells me it's ok. From a psycological point of view, this practice isn't so ok, but I can understand wanting something...anything really, to make you feel better when there's just a little too much crap to deal with. However, I have seen many, many addictions around me, from smoking, to weed, to drinking, to even sex. Saying you can quit whenever you want isn't all there is to wether you're addicted or not...if you can't go a few days without craving it, I think that's real dependancy.
But what really matters here is we all have our own brain and our own body and therefore can make decisions for ourselves. Even if it frustrates you that someone you love is doing something you hate, I've learned time and time again you can't make them do anything. It's not your call. It's theirs. So, for those who chose to smoke, I hope you are informed enough to know what you are doing, because knowledge is key in making a real decision. If you do, there is nothing I can say except that I myself chose to pass. It ain't my body.

Lol, this is entertaining now. i can`t believe because someone smokes people have the nerve to call them weak, or say they are going to kick their ass cus of second hand smoke. From what i see, the only ones that have a problem and complain about it are just kids in school, who still believe everything they read and what the school tells them. Or because their parents were idiots and smoked in the house fell asleep and almost burned down the house (this may seem directed toward u but this isnt the first ive heard of that happening) Its not that smokers are stupid, there are just lots of stupid people in this world, hence we have warning labels on basically everything we own. I`m personally sick of how you are trying to say smokers smoke because of issues they have , feeling hated or what not. Obviously some people cant understand that not all things people do have a reason. It could just be simply fun to them. Smoking first of is overstressed about how dangerous it is, especially SHS. SHS is only bothersome if u grow up around it, so for a certain amount of ya this will effect you. I can`t really get upset about this, because when i ws in highschool i hated smokers too, i had these same ideas. wether it was maturity or experience i understand for the most part there mostly isnt a reason for it, people smoke just because.; not cus they are weak or had a troublesome life, those are just excuses, because its just a pain in the as to explain to non-smokers why we smoke. This thread is a prime example why.

(Lol, glad your so entertained by this debate)

So the reason people smoke is basically because it makes them feel good. Am I correct? Otherwise there would be no reason to smoke, unless you were really not very smart and just wanted to put your life at risk.

again u cant understand, there isnt always a reason to smoke. You realize we can go at this all year :P I dont smoke cus it makes me feel good or cus i have problems. In fact i have a very happy life, and i have no problems and vion has a lil insight on how i live. Basically when u are saying smokers are weak, you are calling me weak. I`m not going to let people who really dont understand life or are ignorent try to bash all smokers. There are weak and stupid people everywhere smokers or non; so if any of ya could grasp that concept this would make this debate a lil easier. lets stick to the basics.

1) smoking is not healthy
2)SHS is only a problem if its a long term issue
3) not everyone has to have a reason to do anything

these are the 3 things im just trying to get across. Not to be rude but this really isnt a good site to have serious debates on, the majority of this site are kids and just cant understand a debate and need to resort to name calling to get their point across, tho some people did have something good to say. Mostly all i saw was name calling, mostly because their parents smoked and screwed up or they heard something in school. When u get older ull understand that school was a scare tactic and that almost all the info they gave u on life issues was way over stretched and far fetched and mostly irrelivent. Im not bashing everyone here just the ones who are stubborn as hell and have to act immaturly with pathetic attemps to bash smokers. Personally i was intrigued with everones feedback on this topic, it was just disappionting that the mojority of the debate was "smokers are weak"or "smokers are not smart" Who are you to decide? You can do whatever you want to your body and nobody has the right to say any different. (as long as its legal) Now we are just going in circles and this debate seems to be more of a pissing match then anything else. This is all fun and games tho, so please, dont get offended this is just a bunch of clashing views on one subject. :huh:

Actually I'm pretty sure that most of us are too old to be classified as kids. Most people would call 14 and up young adults.
I wasn't saying that smokers weren't smart either however I really don't understand why anyone would smoke for no reason. This has nothing to do with me being too young to understand. It has to do with me not comprehending why you would want to risk your own well being just because.
Another thing I'm homeschooled so I don't beleive the statement

applies to me. Although I do agree alot of "public" schools don't really teach things right all of the time.

(I'm not.)

hmm that could make another good debate..... public schools, private schools, and home schools.

man i shur do cause a lot of contraversy when i open my mouth...er... i mean to say vouce my opinion

overall this was a good debate.

This sort of reminds me of Dave Chapelle when the guy that smokes crack was like,

"Do you know what dogfood tastes like!? It tastes just like it smells!...Delicious!" xD!!

But yeah, sorry. x_x I hope I didn't offend you Jadestone, it didn't mean to.[What I said.] But I understand where you're coming from, and I don't think people who smoke are stupid anyway, but I'm still believing in that weak thing. But then again, maybe my opinion shouidn't really count, since I've never been in your position. Taking into the fact of the matter, that I've never smoked. I've only known people that smoked.

But when I say smokers are weak, I don't think they're the only category of weak people anyway. I would also consider those people that say "Don't smoke!" But aren't very forward with their opinion weak too. Actually, everyone's weak. It's just everyone has a different way of venting out their stress. It just, unfortunatley, had to be smoking for some people. [blinks]

Don't feel that way. This is just a debate its not really your fault if the debate gets heated. Which, by the way, it hasn't and you shouldn't worry about it.

Sadly, I know people who smoke excessively. I've learned to deal with it basically

Personally I don't smoke but I've grown up and continue to hang round with people who do and as such I've learned to respect their choice.

What does annoy me on the other hand is all these stupid adverts where they have blatant actors portraying termiunally ill people who talk about how cigarettes have stopped them breathing properly.

Not only does it have completely no effect on the amount of people that smoke, it is blatantly obvious that they are second-rate actors doing a third-rate job which annoys me as much as a jude law film.

I apoligise for somewhat trivialising your debate :P :D :P

i dont like jude law too much, my ex was obsessed with him

^(that was spammy)

In my opinion it would be so much easier if smoking became illegal. Although that would cause alot of people to revolt and it wouldn't be pretty.

It would be impossible to ban smoking now, it's too-well integrated into society. did you know that in elizabethan times rich children were taught to smoke pipes as part of their education.

I'm sorry but you're just gonna have to get used to it....

ya i dont think smokeing will go away no matter how hard you try

I never said I wasn't used to it. I just don't agree with it. I don't hate smokers in the least but I don't approve thats just my opinion is all.

The funny thing is how the hell it ever was legal in the first place.... I mean here in D.C people get locked up everyday for smokling or selling, crack,weed,dope,heorwine.

But hell you got cops that smoke...

Well tobacco started as a source of income. People didn't know it was harmful at first so it was just a regular thing. By the time people realized it was dangerous it was probably to late to stop it since it had become such a booming product.

Damn those colonists........

ha ha ha
it's only elegal for people under age to smoke not adults