The topic of abortion is widely debated, and I'm surprised it wasn't created here yet.

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Abortion --
n.

1a) Termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or of a fetus that is incapable of survival.

1b) Any of various procedures that result in such termination and expulsion. Also called induced abortion.

2) The premature expulsion of a nonviable fetus from the uterus; a miscarriage.

3) Cessation of normal growth, especially of an organ or other body part, prior to full development or maturation.

4) An aborted organism.

5) Something malformed or incompletely developed; a monstrosity.

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Either way one looks at it, it is the termination of an organism, in this case, a baby. Mothers across the nation are rallying for the banning/allowance of abortion. But, onto the juicy stuff. I'm neutral in this argument, so I will bring up points to support both sides, and eventually, I'll come in to thrash some arguments to pieces.

Anyway...debate abortion.

Well, I stand by the Pro-Life argument.


Simply put, most abortions involve giving birth to the kid, anyway. As far as I know.

I'm very, very glad they banned partial-birth abortion. That's just disgusting.

Now, as for itself:

I say there's no real point in killing a baby who's only fault was being conceived in the wrong womb at the wrong time.

If the pregancy is going to kill both the mother and the baby, or one of them, then I think it may be okay to abort.

But for anything else, it's murder. There so many better things that can be done. My little cousins are a testament to this. While they weren't necessarily in risk of being aborted, they were adopted. It's not that hard. :angry:

If there is really no alternative...


...Nope, that's a lie. I mentioned when I thought it would be either necessary or up to the discernment of the mother. I stand by that.

Choice?

Hah!

Like the fetus has a choice?

I agree with banning abortions but then I kind of agree...

If a woman is raped by somebody I could see her wanting an abortion and I think it's okay (I knew this girl who got an abortion because her dad raped her :( I can see why she got one). But if a woman who sleeps around gets pregnant and wants an abortion I say screw her. There are such things as birth control. It's her fault and her responsibility.

I heard that this chick got an abortion and the baby was still alive when they took it out :( It's sad.

In all truth the way i see it is if your old enough for sex then be prepared and an abortion isnt proper.

But

if the baby is a product of Rape or endangers the mothers life then I believe abortion should be considered! Not nessasaraly a definant thing except for the mother possibly dying from the baby (ie the mother is 10 years old and to small to carry a baby safely!)

I sort of disagree with that description/meaning. How can you say that it's already incapable of survival when you're giving it up just before it is born?

Or am I being to literal on this?

So probably it's a bit obvious what side I stand on this. I'm Pro-Life all the way. Abortion is just wrong any way you look at it. Yes, even if it's rape. Do you think it's the fault of the child for what happened? The conception of a child may it be caused by rape or consensual sex is still a conception of life. Killing it therefore would constitute to murder wouldn't it? Just remember, it's still a living human being.

I know it may be harsh especially when you're raped but still, won't you consider at all the chance for this child to live?

What else are you going to say? I'm too young for this. WELL, if you actually thought about that when you were about to let someone's *ahem* get into you (to put it bluntly), you wouldn't be in that position now, right? Take the responsibility.

As for those whose lives are endangered and may need abortion. I guess I would have to say make it your last option. If there's a will, there's a way. I don't believe in miracles but when you see someone who tries to keep even the sickest of people alive, don't you feel inspired?

It's all a matter of choice either way really. Don't make your naivety an excuse. :rolleyes:

Ah a challenging debate! interesting

ok first point. if you have an abortion when very early in the pregnancy when its just a fertalized egg, is that murder? If so humanity is full of murderers. Everyone is one. because we kill off eggs and sperm all the time. The egg isnt a thinking breathing being with emotions. Neither is sperm. And if you catch them at a stage where they havnt fully created such a being then all your doing is killing sperm and an egg!

And second point is that at an early age the dangers of pregnancy can kill the carrying mother. And the chance of the babies survival is small as well do to the undeveloped mothers body! And so there is a very large possibility that both may die. 1 life is better then none!

Good point. However, this only exists in the form of the morning-after pill (a contraceptive similar in chemical composition to the birth control pill but is taken AFTER intercourse to cause the egg to be expelled as if it were unfertilized - used most often for rape victims or in the instance of regular contraceptive failure and is effective if taken up to 72 hours after intercourse).
If the morning-after pill is not taken and the pregnancy is begun, normally by the time a pregnancy is detected, the fetus has developed to the point where it has developed a beating heart (considered to be one of the first signs of life).

I don't know where I stand anymore. I have several adopted friends who could have very well been aborted, but weren't. Yet, I saw one of those friends impregnate a girl and pay for half the abortion, even though prior to this he was pro-life, due to his own situation. It makes me wonder what was right, aborting a child they knew they could never deal with having in any sense (physically, emotionally and financially), or carrying it to term in hopes that it will have some semblence of a good life. It confuses me to the extent that I give up trying to decide my stance. All I know is I personally choose abstinence till I am able to handle sex and all possible occurences as a result of it.
And that's my view.

Very excellent point!

Fact is Abortion cannot be debated. There are to many variables to take into consideration and to many times people loose there whole quality of life because of a child being born to early in there life.

Who are we to say its wrong or right?

Well, there are those who still believe it immoral to kill an unborn child and who equate it with infanticide. To claim that we are unable to pass judgments is not an argument that can truthfully be made, because there are some who have. Also, due to it's state as a both heavy and contravercial topic, it is something heavily debated by both sides who, clearly, have already decided for themselves wether or not the practice is immoral.
I can see that there are those that view abortion as a right that they wish protected. There are also those who view it as an abomination that should be universally discontinued. Just because I chose not to participate in what has become a war of morals dosen't mean I can't see the necesisity of such an argument, nor the points of both sides.

Ah but im not saying its not something that should be debated.

Just that nobody can be right! its morality we question. and no 2 people have the same morals!

Elza, it was the definitions from Dictionary.com. Disagree with them.

Blood God, plenty of people have the same morals. Not every single moral is the same, but there is no possible way that in a world filled with human beings no two beings have the same morals. It simply isn't as genuine and original as DNA.

As to whether abortion is debatable or not is simple, and this explanation regards almost everything:

If there are two different sides, there are two different choices, and two different opinions. Notice, there is always at least two choices, which means there are always at least two sides, and at least two different opinions.

Moralistically, it can be argued upon, though you can't argue over facts. It's a debate that gets one into the entanglements that broaden one's horizons. It brings about the inner-workings of theology, socialistic ideals, and everyday environments that fuse together to form a point of view for every person. It can be argued. You may not get anywhere with it, but it can be argued.