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roosters05 - July 12, 2005 02:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (westspanthers @ Jul 12 2005, 10:33 AM)
Braith Anasta to the Roosters. How good is it they don't have a salary cap!

we do have a cap as well.

Consider the quality of players we have lost in recent years:

1. Brad Fittler
2. Luke Ricketson (at the end of the season)
3. Bryan Fletcher
4. Michael Crocker (at the end of the season)

and many more. with the loss of Fittler, Ricketson and Crocker recently, we must have free'd up a fair bit of cap space.

chriswalkerbush - July 12, 2005 03:40 AM (GMT)
Crocker was in a pissy contract, as was Cayless. Ricketson was basically exempt, due to being a ten year serviceman. Fletcher left something like three years ago.

The Roosters benefit immensely from under the table recruitment.

roosters05 - July 12, 2005 04:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (chriswalkerbush @ Jul 12 2005, 01:40 PM)
Crocker was in a pissy contract, as was Cayless. Ricketson was basically exempt, due to being a ten year serviceman. Fletcher left something like three years ago.

The Roosters benefit immensely from under the table recruitment.

ah, the age old jealousy bug. If you can't beat them on the park, try and rubbish them off it. Have we been found guilty of breaching the cap? No! Will we be investigated closely like every other club...Yes! We have lost a lot of talent over the years, just like Parramatta, and are benefitting with a host of younger players, the likes of Soward, Wing, Finch,Minichello, Soliola, Tupou and co.

mickyj - July 12, 2005 04:58 AM (GMT)
But then add Mongahan, Roberts, and othjers that have come in.

chriswalkerbush - July 12, 2005 05:22 AM (GMT)
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ah, the age old jealousy bug.


Jealousy? I'm pretty sure the Broncos (Hussey) and Manly (mickyj) are well above the Roosters at the moment. I guess inconsistency is something that all genuine premiership contenders aspire to...

Hell, even though my team's last, we've still won more premierships in the last twenty five years than Sydney. I can't see a lot to be jealous of.

westspanthers - July 13, 2005 01:26 AM (GMT)
hahaha Jealousy? Yeah I am so jealous, I mean when the broncos have won 5 from 5 premierships, how jealous could you be of a club that has won only 1 premiership in 30 years and choked more then Greg Norman. You are kidding yourselves, the Roosters were the 1st ones to complain about the Broncos when we set a precident for Professionalism in clubs, now the Roosters are the same way they go on about how the brought a new professionalism in. Bullshit! They just wanted to copy the Broncos way of life because it is so successful, they are now the NRL's boyfriend and get whatever they want. Lucky Ricky is dicking David Gallop hey. Poor Harrison is going to be caught up in there shit again, Mick Crocker was smart enough to leave them. Wake up to yourselves Roosters supporters, your club is crap. Making Grandfinals is worth jackshit when you do not win them. ;) And by the way you basically won it by default the 1 in 2002. Everyone knows the Dogs probably would have won it. :lol:

MarkF - July 13, 2005 01:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (westspanthers @ Jul 13 2005, 11:26 AM)
Mick Crocker was smart ...

Doubt that sentence has ever been used before :D

mickyj - July 13, 2005 02:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (westspanthers @ Jul 13 2005, 11:26 AM)
hahaha Jealousy? Yeah I am so jealous, I mean when the broncos have won 5 from 5 premierships, how jealous could you be of a club that has won only 1 premiership in 30 years and choked more then Greg Norman. You are kidding yourselves, the Roosters were the 1st ones to complain about the Broncos when we set a precident for Professionalism in clubs, now the Roosters are the same way they go on about how the brought a new professionalism in. Bullshit! They just wanted to copy the Broncos way of life because it is so successful, they are now the NRL's boyfriend and get whatever they want. Lucky Ricky is dicking David Gallop hey. Poor Harrison is going to be caught up in there shit again, Mick Crocker was smart enough to leave them. Wake up to yourselves Roosters supporters, your club is crap. Making Grandfinals is worth jackshit when you do not win them. ;) And by the way you basically won it by default the 1 in 2002. Everyone knows the Dogs probably would have won it. :lol:

I am in shock but i agree with most of what hussey said.

westspanthers - July 13, 2005 02:28 AM (GMT)
:P haha Mark, poor Mick Crocker. He means well!

Yeah I am in shock too that people made comments about the Roosters and other clubs being jealous haha I agree 100% with what I said. :o

douglasallen19 - July 14, 2005 01:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (westspanthers @ Jul 13 2005, 11:26 AM)
And by the way you basically won it by default the 1 in 2002. Everyone knows the Dogs probably would have won it. :lol:

hey who stopped the bulldogs winning streak in 2003, the warriors did. dunno who would have played the roosters out of the warriors and bulldogs, but the warriors had the doggies covered

chriswalkerbush - July 14, 2005 08:40 AM (GMT)
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Mick Crocker was smart enough to leave them.


Mick Crocker is a deadset idiot. Blind luck might have got him out, but never intelligence

westspanthers - July 14, 2005 02:00 PM (GMT)
Why is he an idiot? Because he plays an aggressive style of football. It is just teams without the talent and balls to face up to him can't do anything about it. How about Josh Perry, he tries to be aggressive but ends up looking a total fuckup (like the rest of the knights organisation) when he shoots his big mouth off and can't back it up. You just don't like him cos he is a Queenslander and that is understandable, because you are very feminine and you only watch football for the guys looks not the aggression. Maybe Soccer may be an option? Then you and Ben Kennedy can live happily ever after in a nice little house with a white picket fence and all your other gay friends can come around for dinner parties, with the main guests being Ron Palmer and the Johns boys, who incidently take a different path of homosexuality, with a real tasmanian feel to it. Nothing like brotherly love, just ask Joey and Matty :P Maybe you should start watching games in more detail, so then you don't look like a complete idiot everytime you make statements. Because most of the ones you use are just recycled from what other people say. If the NRL had nothing written about it in the papers or you didn't have any friends who like league, you would not be able to make a decent judgement on your own. I mean really Jarrod Mullen better then Benji is completely laughable :lol:

chriswalkerbush - July 14, 2005 02:20 PM (GMT)
Did I say Perry wasn't an idiot? I'm livid that Newcastle decided to resign him. Crocker's not an idiot because he's agressive, nor is it because he's a Queenslander (although the IQ of people living up your way is substantially lower than in the premier state). It's because he doesn't know the difference between aggression and breaking the rules. There's a reason he spends so much time suspended. Tallis was aggressive, and he didn't spend near as much time sitting out games as Crocker does.

As for your latter 'spray', I think you should look into the old 'don't throw stones if you live in glass houses' adage. Some of your ratings of QLD Cup players are just ludicrous, and don't even get me started on your laughable opinion in the Karmichael Hunt debates from earlier in the year.

I guess you still consider Lockyer the best player in the world?

pennywisealfie - July 14, 2005 04:57 PM (GMT)
let me put the maunder touch to this thread

Case 1: The Sydney Roosters: Cap Cheats? GF Easy Beats?
The Roosters do have a lot of shit attached to it, like Phil Gould (who has an opinion on everything), Ricky Stuart (The real biggest whinger in the game), (Ron Palmer (Gay guy with wierd moustache, has aids) and most of all their huge stance on traditionalism in the 90s only now to be the "professional" super club, besides all this, i like the roosters, People have gone salary cap crazy over the roosters ever since the dogs broke the rules back in 2002, the year the roosters won the comp. If the Roosters didnt win that year would anyone doubt there cap? is it any coincidence that the roosters are the most hated team in the comp and are also always being doubted about their salary cap? Does everyone hate the Roosters because they won the 2002 GF? I think its a bit of each, but reguardless, i think its pretty stupid when someone says "the roosters MUST be over the cap after signing X player". Are you the Roosters bookeeper? no? then i guess ur a 99%chance of being wrong.

Case 2: Michael Crocker: Dont wanna be an aggressive idiot
Mick Crocker is aggressive? yes. is rugby league an aggressive sport? last time i checked it was, but after all this diving in origin games and good tackles being called a "dangerous throw" and other rather girly behaviour, that maybe Crocker is an idiot. He must be an idiot for playing with pride and passion, always working hard, always sticking up for his team mates even if outside of football he doesnt even talk to them or may not even like them, sure he might get suspended, but everyone does, its part of being in a contact sport, playing with the passion that crocker does, if thats being an idiot then we should all aspire to be an idiot.

Case 3: The Newcastle Knights: Jeff McMullen? since when did he play footy
this Mullen dude is nothing, benji owns him, Perry is a total fuck up, fuck the knights, 2005 spooners.

Case 4: Manly Sea Eagles: Who are they above?
pfft Manly are fine now (but earlier blocked sinuses) they are above roosters, but thats coz they had a good start, they suck now, everyone knows it, they wont make the 8, especially with a girl (kennedy) as there best player!

Case 5: Brisbane Broncos: 6 Time Champs?
A famous poet once said "we got the teamwork, to make the dream work, lets go, lets go broncos" and that line is never more true then in 2005. The Brisbane Broncos will win the 2005 Grand Final! not Parra, not Sydney, not Central Coast Falcons.

Thats all for tonight, until next time take care, good night Australia. This is Grundy Production for the Nine network Peter Smith Speaking.

chriswalkerbush - July 14, 2005 05:05 PM (GMT)
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He must be an idiot for playing with pride and passion, always working hard, always sticking up for his team mates even if outside of football he doesnt even talk to them or may not even like them, sure he might get suspended, but everyone does, its part of being in a contact sport, playing with the passion that crocker does, if thats being an idiot then we should all aspire to be an idiot.


I just love reading shit like this. If it was a NSW player being aggressive and 'passionate', the Queenslanders would be the first to bitch about it.

chriswalkerbush - July 14, 2005 05:06 PM (GMT)
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He must be an idiot for playing with pride and passion, always working hard, always sticking up for his team mates even if outside of football he doesnt even talk to them or may not even like them, sure he might get suspended, but everyone does, its part of being in a contact sport, playing with the passion that crocker does, if thats being an idiot then we should all aspire to be an idiot.


Haha, I love reading this shit. If it had been a Queenslander taking a dive, you'd be all for it. Likewise, if Ben Kennedy started taking people's heads off with his 'passion', the Maroons would be the first to complain about it.

pennywisealfie - July 15, 2005 02:10 AM (GMT)
everyone knows "the blues" dont have passion chris, they think they do. i almost fell off my bfs strap on when i heard them talk about the "blues call" hahahaha, they are passionate about a colour? do they have passion coz they wanna represent the colour blue!!! do they call it colour of origin in NSW? i heard kennedy yells out "remember how much we all love the colour blue!" and they fire up, seriously how gay.

chriswalkerbush - July 15, 2005 04:50 AM (GMT)
Well, if we've won three straight Origins without passion, I say we don't need it. You guys keep passion, and NSW will keep producing decent players




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