Since no one has commented about the finance rules brought in last season, it's basically my call - and since no one had any problems with too little money, I think it's safe to run basically the same finance rules this season.

So, for your information, is anything and everything that affects finances, in one neat package - subject to tweaking by Chris, of course.

Income may be earned by the following:

1) Each Premiership side will receive $75,000 per regular season game, and each Division Two side will receive $60,000 per regular season game (note RSC sides receive nothing - their finances are drawn from their parent clubs'). No monies will be paid for any Bob Fulton Cup matches or preseason games. No money will be paid in the week of the Crown Casino Risk to any entrants therein (entry fee).

2) At the beginning of the regular season, starting before Round One, each Premiership side will receive $150,000, and each Division Two side will receive $120,000. No monies may be spent before the beginning of the regular season.

3) If your club is selected to appear in a TV game in a given week, and you have submitted team orders properly for that week, you will receive a stipend for that appearance. Brandell, the ASRL Media Manager, will detail the possible payments in due course.

4) Bob Fulton Cup and Crown Casino Risk prize monies:
a) BFC - 1st place earns $100,000, 2d earns $75,000, 3rd earns $50,000.
B) Crown Casino Risk - 1st earns $350,000, 2nd earns $150,000, and
third earns $100,000.

5) Rep player selection - if a player on your club side is selected for representative duty, you will receive $5,000 in compensation for him not being available for your club side. If your club player is injured during a rep match, you will receive $25,000.

6) Articles - cash for articles will be paid, amount to be determined by Chris (or any person he may choose to help him with this duty). Look at previous articles on the Forum to get an idea of payment scale. There is no limit on articles that you may be paid for in a given week.

Next, overdrafts:

Overdrafts are determined at the end of the week, after income has been issued and expenditures have been deducted. Overdrafts are to be penalised by the following scale (changed from last season)

a) 1st offence - Fine equal to one weeks' income ($75,000 for Premiership sides, $60,000 for Division Two sides) - plus no expenditures will be allowed until your bank balance is above zero AND the fine has been paid in full.

B) 2nd offence - Fine equal to two weeks' income, no expenditures allowed until your bank balance is above zero and the fine has been paid in full, AND all formies / physio / training requests made in the offending week will be reversed (plus no refunds for the cost of the reversed expenditures will be made).

c) 3rd offence - Termination from ASRL.

No one had an overdraft last season - and if you follow the rules carefully, no one will this season either. I will be available to help you with finances - and the finances will be posted each week to the Files section of Yahoo! group, in Excel format.

Now, for expences:

1) Physio - $50,000 per physio point - limits are one physio point per player per week. (In other words, if you have $200,000 to spare, and have four players that need a spot of physio in a particular week, you can physio all four one health point each.)

2) Formies - Player form points cost $300 each, subject to the following limits:

a) Only 50 points of form may be purchased for a Premiership or Division Two side in any given week. Only 30 points of form may be purchased for an RSC side in any given week.

B) Player form may not be increased by more than 10 points in any given week.

c) Player form may not be increased above 120 on a Premiership or Division Two side, or above 100 on an RSC side.

3) Player training - no player may be trained above 7 in any rating, nor may more than four training points be applied to any one player in a given season, nor may more than one training point be used by any club in a given week. Player form must be at least 120 in order to be trained (form will not decrease after training, however). Temperament training will not be allowed.

Training costs:

Ø 1 to 2 $3,000
Ø 2 to 3 $40,000
Ø 3 to 4 $50,000
Ø 4 to 5 $60,000
Ø 5 to 6 $80,000
Ø 6 to 7 $150,000

4) Promotions from your RSC side to your senior side - $40,000 per call-up, not per week. The other rules regarding RSC promotions / demotions are beyond the scope of the Finance Office, especially since the new restrictions on player skills for RSC sides have come into force - Chris will no doubt update us all on these rules in due
course.... (reduced from $60,000 last season, btw)

5) Swaps from the Player Pool - Picking up a player from the Player Pool during the regular season will cost $30,000.

6) Sacking of players - READ THIS BEFORE ASSIGNING CONTRACTS - VERY IMPORTANT!!!

If you sack a player, you will have to pay cash to release him from his contract. These charges will be equal to the amount due to him under his existing contract.

Here's how to calculate this charge:

Player salary x length of contract in years = release fee payable.

There will be no pro-rata allowance for a partial year. And the charge to release the player from his contract will be payable at once.

There will be no fines for insufficient funds, because you must have the money in your account in order to release a player - full stop. The ASRL League Office will not allow any release of players from a team that cannot pay the release fee at the time of submission.

These charges will not apply to swaps with another team, during any open trading windows.

7) Fines: For overdrafts, as mentioned above.

The other main area of fines will be the area of non-submission or incorrect submission of team orders: Chris has announced the correct format of team orders (to include training / formies / physio / RSC callups), and will no doubt repeat that announcement. The portion of the orders that include physio, formies, training, and/or RSC callups must be copied to me at badgersrl AT gmail DOT com. The correct header (ASRL Team Orders) must be used.

Fines: 1st offence = loss of weekly income. 2nd offence = loss of weekly income. 3rd offence = termination from ASRL.

Note - any overdrafts caused by you being fined will lead to fines being imposed for the overdraft, in addition to the other fines imposed.

Regards,

Theo
ASRL Finance Office

cool, all sounds fair enough.

Just one question though, what would happen if u signed a player for 5 years, then in real life does a career ending injury and retires?

Sounds good to me :)

In the event of retirement or career ending injury, I'm sure we can make an exception. It'd vary on a case to case basis, though.

In regards to point six, I don't think we should have trade windows anymore. To reflect realism, the only type of trading should be done during the contract period. This will make handling contracts much easier as well.

I'd have to agree with you there Oiler. It would make it much easier for new people to understand when they can trade, having a whole heap of trade windows just makes it harder for newbies (like me) to understand.

what happens when a team promotes and demotes, they will be wanting to get rid of some players and make room for the new players. as with trading you will need to balance the amounto contracts you have (i.e 50 years)

I like trade windows, i thin the round 13 window gives teams a chance to try and fix up problems as well as adding a fun part to the asrl season. It also helps new caoches who take over teams after the trade room is closed before the season.

i think newbies only generally get ripped in trades, i like the idea of only being able to pick up guys that are off contract, maybee the only way a trade could/should be done mid season is if the parties ensure that the fees paid on releasing a player are paid in full, therefore if on player wanted to trade a guy coming off contract that year for somone coming off contract in 3 years time, those fees would have to still be paid.....

June 30

Chris Shepard and Brett firman both moved mid season so it happens in the real world.

With the contracts having to balance there will not be much mid season trading anymore but it should still be there.

I like trading, especially if you know you have a good rsc and dont want your players to be poached without you having anything to do about it. We must still have the trade window so we get rewarded for the efforts we put into developing our younger players!

holy crap this is hardcore? termination from asrl if u fuck up with money? thats harsh. i dont think we even need this finance stuff.

Yeah you seem to go pretty hardcore with the termination things. Maybe that needs to be looked at a bit.

I will work out TV games in the near future.

....could be worse, as I have seen leagues reserve the right to sack someone on just one offence...

...and I would remind all that sacking on the third offence (consecutive for non-submission of orders, total for overdrafts) was the rule for last season :P

For the first time in my life, I agree with Brandell. It is harsh on well-intentioned coaches in the ASRL which don't have much experience.
Have a punishment scale which includes HEAVY fines, stripping of players, reducing of club's salary cap and premiership points. Sackingshould be a very, very last resort.

Maybe with team orders, it is fine. With finance, it is a bit harsh

Realistically, it's damn hard to overdraft on three consecutive occasions. If you're ignoring the warnings and continually spending, it's probably your own fault.

That said, I'll be pretty lenient when it comes to sacking coaches. Only the most annoying of offenders would be given the big ugly axe.

i will be the first guy to second bumper benny's sacking - i think that guy has crossed the line too many times. I mean who does he think he is? I am happy to look after billy slat- i mean melbourne, until a new coach can be appointed.

What was that.. bad mouthing the opposition. You'll be seeing plenty of billy in your nightmares over the next 8 months, after he demolishes adelaide with lightning pace and superb agility. You'll also remember the floggin golden boy carter recieves when he runs at john morris.

Damned hard to overdraft is right, since I've yet to see it - and I can safely second Chris' note about leniency with sackings, as there have been at least three instances last season when a coach could have been sacked, but he cited mitigating circumstances in not doing so (I agreed with him in all instances involved).

If I had proposed using the EIRL finance rules in ASRL, I guarantee that I would have been chained to Ayres Rock, in the nude, without any sunscreen or water - they are far stricter in all ways than the ASRL rules are.

I am actually happy some of you are screaming about the "termination from ASRL" bit - the more aware you all are about the rule, the less likely anyone is going to violate it. And the less time Chris and I have to spend on discipline, the more time we have to spend on Newcastle Knights and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, respectively ;)

(Whether that makes us happier or not is a different query altogether :unsure: )

If any coach has a specific query about how their finances are going, I am available to help in their specific case. And I do try to privately warn a manager when I think s/he's getting too close to the edge.

Safest bet, though, is to write lots of articles - managers that wrote lots of articles got to spend more - which is what I think Chris really wants ;)

...actually, getting a shout out on NRL telly coverage would be nice too :D :D

see what i mean?Bumper Benny has abused me for absolutely no reason! Fire him before this loose cannon is out of control!! Who is john morris anyway? He sounds like somebody who would have a moustache... Is that whose running the show over there in the east cause you better bring more than facial hair cause we got the big boys in our backline, and you have nothing but moustache wearers and jockeys and irishman...

LOL.. i submit.

Pussy :lol:

This is why ASRL rules the roost. We are a friendly organisation who doesn't sack people for slight errors.

This is no freinds here.

This is WAR!

Kill or be Killed!

Overspending on three consecutive occasions is hardly slight. It means you're ignoring the weekly finance mailings and undoubtedly warnings from myself and/or Theo. When you do it that often, chances are you're being a dickhead.