Newcastle Crusade versus Russell Vale Rhinos

Newcastle Crusade
A.Strauss not out 93 (138)
L.Klusener c K.Sangakkara b S.Akhtar 12 (17)
R.Arnold c N.Astle b S.Akhtar 6 (13)
N.Boje c S.Akhtar b A.Adams 28 (53)
M.Samuels run out 43 (69)
V.Laxman c S.Ganguly b C.Cairns 0 (1)
D.Lehmann not out 9 (9)
Extras ( w5 nb1 b1 lb2 ) 9
Total (from 50 overs) 200 - 5
Fall of wickets: 1-20 2-36 3-95 4-189 5-189
Bowling Figures for Russell Vale Rhinos
O M R W
C.Cairns 10 2 45 1
S.Akhtar 10 0 36 2
A.Adams 10 2 43 1
M.Muralitharan 10 2 41 0
A.Symonds 10 3 32 0

Russell Vale Rhinos
N.Astle run out 20 (50)
M.Hayden c K.Otieno b N.Boje 41 (47)
S.Ganguly c M.Kasprowicz b L.Klusener 12 (12)
A.Symonds lbw b S.Harmison 0 (11)
K.Sangakkara not out 53 (57)
M.Atapattu b N.Boje 7 (5)
A.Adams c D.Lehmann b L.Klusener 1 (9)
C.Cairns lbw b M.Kasprowicz 15 (19)
M.Kaif c V.Laxman b T.Baisya 15 (23)
S.Akhtar c K.Otieno b S.Harmison 12 (15)
M.Muralitharan c K.Otieno b S.Harmison 2 (3)
Extras ( w6 nb1 lb10 ) 17
Total (from 42 overs) 195 All out
Fall of wickets: 1-64 2-72 3-86 4-86 5-97 6-98 7-132 8-153 9-193 10-195
Bowling Figures for Newcastle Crusade
O M R W
S.Harmison 6 0 33 3
M.Kasprowicz 8 0 33 1
T.Baisya 10 2 38 1
L.Klusener 9 3 34 2
N.Boje 8 1 47 2
Newcastle Crusade won by 5 runs
POM Points
None

Both sides were not sent in for this match. They therefore cannot gain POM points.
Next game for both teams, they both both lose 25% of runs, and their players still cannot gain POM points.

North Shore Misfits versus NSW Boxers

North Shore Misfits
S.Jayasuriya hit wkt b D.Gough 59 (69)
S.Chanderpaul c I.Farhat b B.Lee 50 (37)
I.Nazir c G.Smith b D.Gough 55 (61)
S.Styris not out 96 (73)
T.Umar c J.Rudolph b D.Gough 2 (5)
C.Harris lbw b D.Gough 9 (8)
I.Harvey c R.Dravid b A.Kumble 16 (22)
K.Akmal c B.Lee b A.Kumble 4 (3)
D.Bravo c D.Gough b A.Kumble 2 (5)
P.Adams not out 21 (17)
Extras ( w2 ) 2
Total (from 50 overs) 316 - 8
Fall of wickets: 1-85 2-160 3-167 4-169 5-185 6-240 7-252 8-274
Bowling Figures for NSW Boxers
O M R W
D.Gough 10 1 79 4
N.Zoysa 10 0 101 0
B.Lee 10 1 56 1
A.Razzaq 10 1 49 0
A.Kumble 10 1 31 3

NSW Boxers
I.Farhat b D.Bravo 71 (95)
G.Smith c K.Akmal b D.Bravo 13 (39)
N.Knight c S.Jayasuriya b D.Bravo 23 (39)
R.Dravid c & b B.Williams 4 (3)
A.Razzaq c C.Harris b B.Williams 0 (4)
N.Zoysa lbw b B.Williams 0 (21)
S.Elahi not out 72 (59)
J.Rudolph not out 45 (40)
Extras ( w6 b3 lb8 ) 17
Total (from 50 overs) 245 - 6
Fall of wickets: 1-41 2-109 3-120 4-122 5-122 6-138
Bowling Figures for North Shore Misfits
O M R W
B.Williams 10 3 41 3
C.Harris 10 2 60 0
D.Bravo 10 3 26 3
S.Styris 10 0 51 0
I.Harvey 4 1 11 0
P.Adams 2 1 14 0
S.Jayasuriya 4 1 31 0
North Shore Misfits won by 71 runs
POM Points
3 S.Styris
2 D.Bravo
1 S.Elahi

NZ Bushwackers versus Southern Sharks

NZ Bushwackers
C.Gayle c J.Oram b Z.Khan 18 (16)
S.Tendulkar c C.Nevin b Z.Khan 18 (27)
R.Ponting b D.Tuffey 50 (74)
M.Clarke c M.Trescothick b U.Chandana 21 (28)
M.Vermeulen b Y.Singh 25 (40)
R.Kaluwitharana not out 47 (67)
I.Pathan c A.Gunawardene b D.Tuffey 3 (4)
D.Vettori c W.Hinds b J.Oram 25 (22)
S.Bond lbw b J.Oram 10 (9)
J.Gillespie not out 18 (13)
Extras ( w2 nb1 b2 lb7 ) 12
Total (from 50 overs) 247 - 8
Fall of wickets: 1-35 2-50 3-106 4-127 5-155 6-158 7-184 8-202
Bowling Figures for Southern Sharks
O M R W
D.Tuffey 10 0 66 2
Z.Khan 10 3 37 2
J.Oram 10 0 60 2
U.Chandana 10 1 47 1
Y.Singh 10 3 28 1

Southern Sharks
A.Gunawardene lbw b J.Gillespie 3 (11)
C.Nevin c C.Gayle b S.Bond 10 (6)
M.Trescothick run out 6 (12)
Y.Khan c R.Ponting b J.Gillespie 9 (10)
W.Hinds c D.Vettori b M.Sami 2 (8)
Y.Singh c R.Kaluwitharana b M.Sami 25 (22)
R.Powell c M.Vermeulen b M.Sami 0 (2)
J.Oram c J.Gillespie b M.Sami 0 (1)
U.Chandana not out 19 (22)
Z.Khan c S.Tendulkar b D.Vettori 3 (11)
D.Tuffey c S.Bond b I.Pathan 3 (10)
Extras ( w3 lb2 ) 5
Total (from 20 overs) 85 All out
Fall of wickets: 1-13 2-15 3-29 4-30 5-40 6-40 7-40 8-61 9-78 10-85
Bowling Figures for NZ Bushwackers
O M R W
S.Bond 3 0 19 1
J.Gillespie 5 1 19 2
M.Sami 5 0 25 4
I.Pathan 4 0 17 1
D.Vettori 2 1 3 1
NZ Bushwackers won by 162 runs
POM Points
3 M.Sami
2 R.Kaluwitharana
1 J.Gillespie

Queensland Isotopes versus West Dubbo Firebugs

Queensland Isotopes
A.Gilchrist c A.Flintoff b C.Vaas 39 (66)
J.Kallis c C.Wishart b C.Vaas 7 (8)
D.Martyn stR.Jacobs b B.Hogg 21 (28)
Y.Youhana not out 137 (117)
S.Malik c S.Tikolo b A.Flintoff 22 (26)
S.Pollock b J.Anderson 20 (18)
M.Boucher not out 46 (37)
Extras ( w9 lb8 ) 17
Total (from 50 overs) 309 - 5
Fall of wickets: 1-7 2-46 3-103 4-159 5-185
Bowling Figures for West Dubbo Firebugs
O M R W
C.Vaas 10 2 64 2
A.Flintoff 10 1 39 1
J.Anderson 10 0 66 1
B.Hogg 10 0 52 1
S.Tikolo 10 1 80 0

West Dubbo Firebugs
V.Sehwag lbw b S.Pollock 2 (10)
Y.Hameed c M.Boucher b P.Wiseman 99 (89)
R.Sarwan c P.Wiseman b S.Pollock 20 (12)
B.Lara c A.Gilchrist b A.Agarkar 50 (49)
A.Flintoff not out 68 (81)
C.Wishart not out 63 (49)
Extras ( w2 b2 lb5 ) 9
Total (from 49 overs) 311 - 4
Fall of wickets: 1-9 2-38 3-153 4-190
Bowling Figures for Queensland Isotopes
O M R W
G.McGrath 9 1 46 0
S.Pollock 7 2 43 2
A.Agarkar 10 2 75 1
H.Singh 10 1 56 0
P.Wiseman 8 2 61 1
S.Malik 4 0 23 0
West Dubbo Firebugs won by 6 wickets
POM Points
3 Y.Youhana
2 Y.Hameed
1 M.Boucher

West Dubbo Firebugs team not submitted.
based on run rate, West Dubbo Firebugs would have scored 318 runs, 75% of this is 239.
Queensland Isotopes actually win by 70 runs.

Bah, so I basically might as well not bother submitting a side next week, since I'll lose because of this week's non submission.

man wheres the leniency, i know i sent it in like 12 hours late, but i worked all morning sat and then went to a wedding, oh well bahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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about time my bowlers start firing
bowled them out last round for 106, this week 85

I sent out 2 reminders that teams were due 9pm Saturday. I played all the games Saturday night. I couldn't replay the game for you because its impossible to because it keeps records of best performances for each team and an overall record, and if I replay the match, the first game may have record in it, and therefore it would throw the stats at the end of the season.

When a game is played where 2 teams are not sent in, there are no run penalties, only the penalty that players cannot gain POM points. Next time you send your team in however and are playing a team that has sent their side in, you do only get given 75% of the runs scored and still dont gain POM points. If you are again playing a team that has not been sent, both teams play with no penalties. The 75% runs rule applies the first game you send your side in after you didnt send your team in, and you are playing an opposition team that has sent a side.

Rowland

*Sigh* Seems stupid, but whatever

yeah man, i can understand being punished for not handing in your orders......buuuuuttttttt. i cant understand why u get double, possibly tripple or more penalised just because the other guy didnt hand his in too.....thats one bad set of rules :P

imagine if u ran a stop sign in your car and had an accident, u get done for neg driving, the police question the other car and find out the driver is unlicenced, so you get an extra fine on top of your neg driving, then with further investigation, find out the car you t-boned is unregistered, all of a sudden your looking a a 3 year licence ban and jail time...dont think that should happen do u :P :P

:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :ouch: :yellow:

Explain how you are getting punished two or three times?
You only ever get hit with the run penalty once for each time you side is not sent.

Rowland

But we're getting hit for it the week after we stuffed up. Considering I was in Newcastle all weekend, I wasn't exactly able to receive either of your reminders.

Why is it not possible to apply run penalties when both sides fail to send in orders?

Why is it not possible to apply run penalties when both sides fail to send in orders?

It would be pointless in taking 25% off both teams if they both didn't send in a side, as it would be basically the same result with or without the penalty. Therefore either coach isn't really penalised if I do impose the run penalty, so its for this reason that you guys get hit with it the week after if you play a side that has a team sent in. The run penalty is there to try and get games happening, and it should help out the teams that do send in their side for the week, so if the penalty is given between 2 sides that have not been sent, that doesn't help the guys that have sent a side in, so it is taken over until you play a team that has sent a side.

Im all open for alternative suggestions for penalties, as this is proving hard to explain. I am having trouble explaining it, so I can imagine you guys are having trouble understanding.

Rowland

In the ASRL, if two sides fail to send a side in, it's what I call 'dumb luck'. They essentially get away with it, but it avoids a lot of complications. It's your comp, and I can see why you have to 'extend' the penalty, but it does kind of feel like being punished for a past indescretion.

i can totally understand the need for punishment, what im saying is fair enough both teams send no orders, then the following week they recieve their run% drop, but if they send in their orders that week and their opponent fails to send theirs in, wht the **** should they be penalised with no poms again, and then their punishment put back another week.....you are saying it is possibly to fail to put your side in in round 1, then due to other coaches not putting their sides in, recieve no pom's for the entire season, thats the 2-3 times i was talking about.....

OK I have had a rethink and how does this sound-
A game is played where 2 team are not sent in. The team that wins gains 1 point for a win rather than the normal 2, and the losing side gets 0 points. Each side cannot gain pom points.

A game is played where one team isn't sent and the other is. The team not sent only gets 1 point if they win, but if the team wins that sent their orders, they gain 2 normal points. The side that was not sent cannot gain POM points.

Note the 75% run thing is totally gone.

Hows that look to everyone?

Rowland

Seems far less complicated, and doesn't prolong the period of punishment more than it needs to be. Gets my seal of approval.

yup, im in agreeance