The tribes gathered at Central Station for the fourth immunity challenge, and it was revealed that Wallabagunga had eliminated Andrew Young from their tribe.
The Challenge
Does everyone remember Andrew Voss' segment on The Sunday Footy Show in which he added goofy little bits of league memorabilia to his museum?
I want everyone to find me a piece of league trivia. This can be a funny piece of merchandise (in which case include a picture), a stupid quote from a former player or coach, an old article, or a write up on a defunct club.
The limit is really your imagination, but I'll be marking entries on their uniqueness and obscurity. Something funny is good, but if you can find a truly rare piece of league trivia than you'll get better marks for your tribe.
Remember....
If Wallabagunga loses this challenge, the tribes will merge next week.
Someone from the Boonta Tribe needs to sit this one out.
Due Date: 6pm Tuesday night
Ok here's a section from an
unoficial Perth Reds website, The section of the website was called "Your Say", and here are a few coments, from some Perth fans about the future of their club,
The Future
Survey taken between Sunday 20th July 1997 and Thursday 7th August 1997
Will there be a single rugby league competition in Australia next year?
Will the Perth Reds be playing next season?
11 - Yes to single comp, Yes to Reds survival
8 - No to single comp, Yes to Reds survival
3 - Yes to single comp, No to Reds survival
1 - No to single comp, No to Reds survival
Comments
I think SL have given up on Perth. Even the Murdoch newpapers are not backing them. Send a few of the players to Wigan, having been thrashed by the Broncos again they need them!!
The Reds will lift over the next period when the situation in the league stabilises and the pressure and confusion falls away and we can get on with showing how good we can be!
I think they will have to have the Reds next year to make it a national game. Both competitions are losing to much money to not merge.
The Reds had better be in next season. We need a team in Perth, if they're gonna get rid of someone, it should be one of the countless Sydney teams. I've read the ARL's proposal and it has South Sydney in, and Perth out. Sounds like a dollars an cents decision, and one that isn't in the best interest of the game. Go the Reds!!
Some new reports in the East suggest the new Optus/ARL deal will mean there are two competitions again. Simply, no Perth Reds means no proper national competition, it will just be the same old tired Eastern seaboard. No Reds in Perth means the death of Rugby League in this state of WA. The kids will not have a local/national team to aspire to. How long did the AFL support Sydney and Brisbane for? Rome was not built in a day. Two things must be addressed, 1) The venue (WACA) is not suitable, a proper pitch (done with the Glory) is a must. 2) The media in Perth want shooting, all they do is undermine the Reds. Ross Dunstan (The One-eyed West Australian) is a totally useless faggot, Channel 9 the so called host station wants NUKING, and removed from covering our great team. So finally long live you REDS REDS REDS
At the rate they are improving it will take them till the year 2005 to win the cup.
If the Reds aren't playing, then the competition won't be national, will it?
[Yes to Reds survival] God I hope I am right. I don't think life in Perth can go on with only one (crappy) football code. OOPS Forgot the other one
I believe that If there is a merger, the ARL will push hard to move the Reds to Melbourne. We have done nothing but cost money to both comps. Poor form has kept bums off seats again this season but they have nobody to blame but themselves.
The ARL want a 16 team competition which does not include the Perth Reds, but Super League want a 14 team competition that includes the Reds. So i think there should be a 16 team competition that includes Perth.
[Yes to Reds survival] Cause we have good under 17.
[I left this one undecoded... :-) ] I hope the reds will be playing next year because I support the reds and I hate to see them not in the comp nexy year. and I hope the ARL and SUPERLEAGUE can come together and talk to each other, befor the league is further damaged, and I Matt Geyer can stay in with the reds next year, and I have to say Reds YOU HAVE MADE SUCH A MISTAKE IS NOT LETTING some good players go next year, i hope you are not coing to regret it, iam
FOR BOONTA TRIBE
David McElroy
Anyone who doesn't watch rugby league is not a real person. He's a cow's hoof, an ethnic or comes from Melbourne. - John Singleton Australian (1981)
Anthony Magro
On renaming Bradford Northern as the Bulls - Bradford is famous for sheep, but we didn't think that had quite the same ring. When we asked on local radio for a name with Yorkshire connotations someone suggested puddings. So it's Bulls. - Peter Deakin (1995)
Haha, Bradford Puddings...
Heres an article from 1806 describing the earlier forms of the game, i particularly like the idea of playing the 100-a-side version and the return of "shinning" and "hacking". The last couple of paragraphs are prob the best read with their mentioning of the high propensity of broken limbs in games back then. it kind of seems like a hybrid of afl,soccer and rugby. Id recomend skip reading cause of the size of the article.
"Football"
(From the Pall Mall Gazette, Nov 14 1867)
Football is, a par excellence, the winter sport of English youth, and frozen-out cricket and rowing clubs gladly welcome a game which the cold renders only more enjoyable. The exercise however, is the exclusive monopoly of the young. At cricket a steady wrist and unerring eye may counterbalance years, and a rowing man may be in the height of his powers on the wrong side of thirty, but the elasticity and activity required at football are to be found only in frames still growing or onset. In later life, to say nothing of stiffness and other disadvantages, limbs are more brittle, and bodies too heavy to endure the shock of "spills" and "charges" with safety.
The game itself though practised in season by all schools differs in relative importance in most of them. With Eton, Westminster, and Radley the "eight" is the leading feature; with Harrow and Winchester the "eleven". In these schools football, though the predominant winter game, is adopted only for want of something better to do; but at Rugby the case is different: football is there the game of the place. Cricket, though brought to great perfection, is only tolerated when the season will no longer permit of the favourite amusement. Marlborough, an offshoot from Rugby, shares its predilection of the game, but in a minor degree, and allows an equal rank to cricket.
A great drawback to a more popular appreciation of football is that it is not regulated by any uniform code of laws. Each school plays its own peculiar game, governed by traditional contingencies of numbers, shape of ground etc. Some good may possibly be extracted from the variety of rules. At present, however, the multiplicity of systems prevents many schools from competing with each other, and also embarrasses the game at the universities. If one side submits to the rules of the other side, it does so obviously to its own disadvantage; if both sides share all the privileges allowed by their codes there will be little discipline left, while if the joint restrictions are enforced, there will be hardly any chance of touching the ball at all.
At Oxford the programme is arranged with a view to mutual accommodation for a Harrow, Rugby, Eton, or Winchester game, as the case may be. At Cambridge a modified code of rules has been drawn up and adopted; and in the neighbourhood of London also local clubs have formed a "Football Association", and prepared rules to suit, as supposed, all exigencies of the game and all local prejudices. What is wanted is a supreme body like the MCC at Lord's, which should legislate by the weight of its own prestige for all the votaries of the game.
It is to be feared, however, that mutual prejudices and jealousies are too rife among the football clubs to permit much hope of such a result. There are certain principles common, from their simplicity, to all phases of the game.
It is played with sides in a "ground" marked out or enclosed; the object in all is eventually to drive the ball through the "goal" to the opposing side. The ball is "out of play" or "dead" if driven out of the ground, yet not through the goal, and has to be brought back to its place of exit. "Off side", "sneaking", "poaching", "tagging" etc which describe the offence of unfairly passing on the ball from one to another on the same side, are universally forbidden; but beyond these few "common measures" there is a perplexing variety in the different games.
Although the ground is always of an oblong shape, the "goal" varies. In the Winchester game the ground is bounded by canvas screens and ropes, is proportionately narrower than other grounds, and the whole width of either extremity constitutes "goal". In most other games a narrower central space, defined by flags, at either end of the ground is goal; if the ball passes this line of flags without going between them it is "behind", and no goal is won.
The Rugbeian system requires the ball to be kicked not only between the goals, but also over a bar, at a certain height from the ground to win the game. Etonian laws compel the ball to go under a similar line. Most other rules recognise a victory when the ball passes between the flags, at any height from the ground. Next there is a choice of balls. The Etonian ball is small and light, suitable for being kept on the ground, and "bullied" through the forest of legs, where a larger orb might find difficulty in passing. The Harrow ball is about the largest. That used in the Rugbeian style of games is more oval than round, which renders it a favourite where long kicking is practised.
As to the numbers employed in a game, eleven or fifteen suffice at Eton and Winchester; tens or even hundreds may engage at Rugby in the great matches, but twenty a side is the usual array.
In commencing the game at Harrow and Rugby the ball is "kicked off" from the middle of the ground; at Eton and Winchester the commencement is a "bully" or "hot" all the players en masse , shoulder to shoulder - in the centre of the ground. "Handing" or "holding" is altogether prohibited by Etonians. The hands may never be used by them except to stop the ball, keep it down to the feet, or touch in a "rouge". The Rubgeian code - the opposite extreme - by a new rule allows the ball to be held even when picked up off the ground; he who has it may, at his peril, run with it into the opposite base, with a view to "touch" and "try at goal", hereafter to be explained.
Harrovians permit a "fair catch" if the ball is killed, ie. driven from below the knee, though in its passage it may glance off any other part of the body, provided it does not touch ground. He who catches may claim a "free kick" if he calls at once "three yards", otherwise he is liable to have his prey knocked out of his hands. Wykehamists allow a "free" kick from a fair catch, if it can be got; hence in the case they suspend their rule disallowing running with the ball, so far as to afford the catcher the power of getting his kick with a three yards run, if he can, and also allow "holding" to stop him for the moment, but the instant he has his course clear, or the ball has been kicked, further privileges of holding or running come to an end.
"Shinning" or "hacking" is variously allowed or disallowed. The Rugby school of players uphold and countenance it, as a necessary means of forcing the ball through the dense masses that play in such games, and one who runs with the ball may be hacked ad lib., but most other schools taboo it, as unsatisfactory and unnecessary.
Many other differences in the mode of play might be enumerated; and these of course have all their effect upon the length of time occupied in each game. Three days may elapse in a great Rugby match before a goal is won. Etonian and Harrovian games are more rapid, and two or three may be played in an afternoon. Winchester games occasionally last only a few minutes; or a dozen can be sometimes played in one match. We cannot attempt to strike a balance in favour of any one system. It is plain that there are advantages and imperfections in all.
The absolute condemnation of "hands", even to the extent of a "fair catch", as in the Etonian game, seems, for instance, rather an extreme measure, though the principle of invariably keeping the ball down is in the spirit of true sport; "rouges", though unique in one way, correspond very much to the Rugbeian "touch" and "try", and have the advantage of being of value in weighting in an otherwise undecided game. The imperfection of the Rugbeian system, and the plan of "touch" behind goals, is that it tends to draw the game systematically to a corner, instead of to the centre of the ground. High kicking also tends to keep the game for a time very much in the hands of a few.
The "running in", though cherished and traditional, is contradictory in a great extent to the title of the game, though it gives scope for the display of skill of another kind. But the great evil is the recognised legality of "hacking". Where usage of law, and the chances are the same for all, it may not appear fair to those used to it, but to an external observer there is much in it that is objectionable. There is something brutal in deliberately "hacking" the shins of fellow creature in cold blood, while hot blood, that might extenuate the seed, is the first evil to be avoided. Barked shins, and occasionally broken limbs occur in almost all forms of football, but the knowledge that they are due to accident is at least some consolation to the sufferer.
In fact, in an eleven-a-side game with the ball in perpetual motion, plenty of room for full play of legs, and no crowd, there are often more casualties, though purely accidental, than in a "hundred-a-side" game. Pluck, therefore in codes other than Rugbeian, is equally called into play. It may be remarked that, as a rule, when a leg is broken in a charge between two players, it rises from the fact that one of them, not the sufferer, has flinched or widely missed the ball, at the moment of collision, kicking his opponent instead. No accident can happen if both kick fairly and with good aim at the ball; and if the ball is then missed, or only half struck, the foot or ankle only suffers, not the upper part of the shin, which is the dangerous spot; if, however, one player happens to be double the weight of another, an ankle might be twisted. But as a rule such casualties are not common.
Have a picture I want to post as part of the challenge but am still struggling to post it ... does anyone know how you do it?
I don't know if I was the 1 supposed to have sat out for Boonta this time but here is one anyway:
This was from a Rugby League Week a few years ago, Phil Gould made a comment about Paul Bowman making the Origin team and how he should not be there. This was Bowman's response:
"Tell Phil Gould to Eat shit! And you can quote me on that"
If I was suppose to sit out, which I am prepared to do just admire this comment by the great Paul Bowman and do not count it.
Right click the pic, go to properties and it will give you a URL for the pic. Then when posting click on the IMG button and enter the URL in there.
Hope that helps :)
Breaking The Codes
For Australian footy fans, nothing is more important to them than seeing their club battle towards the Grand Final. Throughout the last 100 years or so Australian Rules and Rugby League have dominated weekly sporting attention in their stronghold cities.
The southern states were the domain of the locally devised Victorian Rules game, while NSW and Queensland adopted Rugby League from England. This left Australia in a unique situation amongst the ‘football' playing nations - it was not dominated by one code.
In the two most populated cities, Sydney and Melbourne, the sporting-minded could enjoy summer cricket battles between NSW and Victoria. But during winter, the two biggest states could only look across the border and see a football divide. It seemed the only way this would ever change, would be in the unlikely event of one code taking over the other's territory.
However, in 1933 the administrators of both games thought they had the answer - they resolved to create a new ‘all-Australian football game' incorporating the best features of Australian Rules and Rugby League. In Sydney a secret trial match involving players from both codes was held to test the new game.
This though wasn't the first occasion there had been talk of a merged game. At various times in the late 1800s Sydney's rugby authorities were faced with growing popularity of the ‘Australian game'. To counter it, they toyed with rule changes to eliminate scrums, allow the taking of fair catches (marks) in the air and punt kicks for goal. The Rugby Football Union in England though, who the NSWRU was bound to follow, would not countenance such changes.
When Rugby League kicked off it's inaugural Sydney season in 1908, it became Australia's first professional football code. Entrepreneurs such as J.J. Giltinan provided the money to establish the game, and they were well aware of the huge crowds that patronised Melbourne football and the possibilities it offered. In July of 1908, on behalf of the NSWRL, Giltinan proposed a set of rules for a merged football code to the Victorian Football League.
Giltinan also offered the bait of international fixtures, telling the VFL if agreement on the game could be found, he would encourage the English Rugby League authorities to adopt the new rules while he was away with the Kangaroos. The tour proved to be a financial disaster for Giltinan and the VFL closed the matter - but not for long.
In mid 1914 a Rugby League match was held at the MCG between England and NSW, renewing interest in the possibilities of an Australian-wide professional football code. In November of that year, officials of the NSWRL and the Australian National Football Council held meetings in Melbourne to thrash out rules for a merged game.
It was agreed to trial the rules the following season, incorporate adjustments if needed and then make a final decision. The conference decided the game should be played on oval fields, with dimensions slightly less than used by Australian Rules. Scrums were eliminated, and the re-start of play after a score would be a centre-field bounce. The Rugby League off-side rule would apply, but only when played reached within 35 yards of the goal. The posts were to be rugby style with a cross-bar.
While ‘behinds' were excluded from the new game, taking a mark in the air was to be allowed. Tries could be scored and were worth two points while all goals, whether from the field or conversions after tries, were valued at one point. Full tackling was permitted, provided it was made between the attacker's shoulders and knees. The ball could only be passed backwards and with no need to punch the ball. There would be no knock-on rule provided the same player regained possession.
However, the increasing seriousness of World War One quickly saw the matter put aside and it was soon forgotten - or so it seemed.
The July 1933 touring Kangaroos travelled to Melbourne to connect with the ship sailing for England. The team was entertained by the VFL at a luncheon at the MCG. With officials of both codes present, discussion came round to the possibilities of a combined game. The proposal of 1914 was resurrected, and this time it had serious momentum.
The news quickly broke in Sydney and Melbourne's papers and the officials of both games enthused at the prospects of increased popularity and financial goldmines. Mr Hickey (Victorian Rules) said: "If a NSW team, playing a truly national code, could travel to Perth playing en route in Melbourne and Adelaide, I doubt whether the ovals would be able to accommodate the crowds. The financial possibilities are unlimited. There are excellent features in both codes that could easily be adopted."
Mr. Dargan of the NSWRL agreed with Hickey's view, but pondered "whether the increased interstate competition would compensate us for the loss of international fixtures".
A conference was arranged for early August 1933 as the movement grew in popularity amongst officials. Mr More (VFL) was as enthusiastic as most, calling on all to "search for a game for Australia, and forget about England." So confident had the movement become, they announced the game would be called the ‘Universal Football League'. Mr O'Connor (Qld Australian Rules) was an exuberant supporter of the cause: "If the brilliant, spectacular features of Australian Rules were combined with the hard, solid features of Rugby League we would have a game with which to storm the world."
A trial match was held at the Sydney Showground on August 11, 1933. The rules provided for 14 men a side, but they could only muster 12 each on what was a workday. Mr O'Connor was the referee and described the match "as a cracker". Other observers noted the players struggled with the rules and were constantly pulling out notes from their pockets to read what they should do.
The conference ended with both parties agreeing to go back to their respective bodies with a recommendation to gradually implement the rules into their games and eventually the sports would be combined. It was also proposed to introduce a summer night match competition so players and supporters could familiarise themselves with ‘Universal Football'.
Mr. Flegg, President of the NSWRL, was not so captivated by the concept. He denounced those who supported the fusion as being disloyal to Rugby League and added that the new game would be a competitor: "Even if they retained 90% of League rules, and only 10% of the other rules, it still would not be Rugby League. There is nothing in common between League and any other game." Flegg added: "If they want a new game, get out of our game and form their own."
At the next NSWRL meeting the report on the conference was considered and then politely put away.
haha good one Mark, thats my bloody 5/8!(Henry Paul)
| QUOTE (MarkF @ Apr 27 2004, 12:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (thewizard1o1 @ Apr 27 2004, 11:40 AM) | Right click the pic, go to properties and it will give you a URL for the pic. Then when posting click on the IMG button and enter the URL in there.
Hope that helps :) |
Thanks mate
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No probs.
Just one question, where can i pick up the cd? :lol:
Heres an article pointing the finger at a player for some disgusting behaviour, ill call it an old article so it makes it into the challenge. It has been shortened to allow for readability here enjoy guys. There is a totally unconnected image relating to this above.
Arse & All
by Jim Provenzano
On April 1, 2001, Australian rugby player John Hopoate (pronounced "hop-o-wotty") announced his resignation from the West Tigers club. His resignation followed widespread publicity after the National Rugby League judiciary a week before handed down a 12-match suspension for unsportsmanlike conduct.
Hopoate, a winger, was suspended for jabbing his fingers into North Queensland players' anuses.
"I sincerely regret that anything I may have done has caused stress, anxiety and disappointment to everyone involved with the West Tigers," said Hopoate in a press statement. He didn't say anything about the stress on the anuses of his opponents. The burly Australian, born in Tonga, probably has very thick fingers.
"I am distressed to think that I have been the center of controversy creating intense media attention that has reflected adversely on the image and morale of the Wests Tigers Club."
To say nothing of being the butt of jokes worldwide. "The Vilest Act Ever!" spews reactionary Web site, Sportal.com. One Aussie newspaper cartoon depicts a ref being asked about how to "clean up the sport" in light of the anal incident. The ref's retort: "Rubber gloves for players.".......
"My only request is that my family and I be left to get over the events of this traumatic week and our privacy be respected," he told the press through his manager, a Mr. Wayne Beavis. Yes, after finger-fucking opponents on the field and on national television, a man deserves his private time......
Prostatement
Hopoate, a former Australian Test winger, insisted he was merely trying to give Jones and Morrison a wedgie in order to perform a quick play-the-ball. Asked by his counsel Bernie Gross QC where he was directing his finger at Bowman, the Cowboys captain, Hopoate replied: "Between his arse and his nuts." Hopoate maintained he did nothing wrong in administering the wedgies and went on to say: "I'm a great believer in what happens on the field should stay there."
Does this mean he advocates public sex? With documentation of the plentitude of de-pantsed ruggers littering the Internet, one would think such sporny behavior is quite a crowd-pleaser. But having your pants ripped off is not an invitation to pokey penetration. It hardly seems enjoyable to the pokee.
Wedgie High
Asked to describe what a wedgie felt like, the Tigers winger replied: "You get a burning sensation. Your undies are getting reefed up your arse." Hopoate's defense counsel contended to Jones that his client had merely administered a "wedgie" on the Cowboy in the seventh minute of the match.
"It wasn't a wedgie. That's when your pants are pulled up your arse. I think I know the difference between a wedgie and someone sticking their finger up my bum," said Jones. While both acts caused discomfort, they caused different sensations and he could differentiate between the two.
In the end, the NRL Judiciary had little trouble differentiating between a "wedgie," a "finger up the arse" and the area between the "arse and the nuts" before finding Hopoate guilty. The kangaroo court did not proffer video footage of the re-enactments, exhibits or displays of the injured bums, but no doubt they amused the council of undoubtedly repressed crones, who were probably envious of such sporty prostate exams.
Heres the link for those who want to check out the article
http://www.nightcharm.com/habituals/sporn/fingering/ 
